Mini Normal 2054: Winter's Sacrifice [Game Over]

JunkoChan · Post Post #450 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:30 am

Black to L-1

JunkoChan · Post Post #451 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:32 am

VOTE: Badjager

Dannflor · Post Post #452 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:02 am

In post 432, BuJaber wrote:@Dann - your case on me ignores that my posts are explaining reasoning behind my reads. It also assumes that I am scum and that gamma is town before it begins to analyze the wagons and not after.
There is no reasonable reason to think that gamma was actually a counterwagon to tchill. Tchill votes piled up far too quickly for a typical day 1. I was unsure on what that meant. Gamma who was my top scumread early on was not posting and engaging with me so I had no reason to change my vote before getting a response. Also from my experience the first 1 or 2 wagons that get up there on day 1 always dissipate. I wanted to vote gamma so gamma responds to me and to see how others react, I doubt it would have even been hammered but it had to look like real pressure. And while waiting and trying to sort the nullslots I was talking to other scumreads like sasha and xwing.

You don't like how I sort what is scummy and what isn't you can give me your feedback after the game but let's not start changing the narrative of day 1 in hindsight. It's easy to call tchill scum after he flips. For me it is my first game with him, and from what I could tell he was pretty much just not posting much. Activity is not a reliable scumtell.

Sorry I wasn't on a wagon about to be hammered 4 days before deadline. I don't vote for people just cause others are.

To spend so much energy on explaining your reads this early on in the game is only fine if your reads are actually substantive. Most of your reads involve you calling people slightly scummy. Then once you call me, Haschel, and Junko "more townie" than Slaxx. Reading through your ISO I don't really get a strong sense of who you think is town or scum at all, which coincidentally is the same thing we crucified Tchill for.

In post 281, BuJaber wrote:
In post 263, xwing wrote:im not a fan of a scum!sasha anymore..
Why?

VOTE: Gamma

You vote Gamma here, a good chunk of the way through the day, without actually asking him anything. You asked him questions earlier, but HE did respond and back off in post #251. YOU are changing the narrative of the day.

I hate pretty much the entirety of your response to my case because it reads as one big AtE. Also, I have good reason to town read Gamma.

Sashaddin · Post Post #453 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:07 am

Ok after rereading relevant parts, I'm down to
{Junko + Flub} or {Bujaber + ?}

Intent to hammer Bujaber

JunkoChan · Post Post #454 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:17 am

In post 453, Sashaddin wrote:Ok after rereading relevant parts, I'm down to
{Junko + Flub} or {Bujaber + ?}

Intent to hammer Bujaber

What parts? You think you are Junko the towniest placer and can throw reads without backstory?

No sir

JunkoChan · Post Post #455 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:18 am

Towniest player*

Sashaddin · Post Post #456 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:23 am

In post 454, JunkoChan wrote:What parts?
You think you are Junko the towniest placer
and can throw reads without backstory?

No, I don't claim to be a wannabe-bully who tries to make people not enjoy this game.

Sashaddin · Post Post #457 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:33 am

In post 396, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 395, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why
Why not? Read day 1

In post 411, JunkoChan wrote: @xwing Do I have to?.. I believe last 3 pages of fay 1 are very selfexplanatory

Your quickhammer was self-explanatory. Those last 3 pages are not, can you summarize them to me please?

Sashaddin · Post Post #458 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:41 am

I scumread Junko for the quickhammer attempt and the 417-430 duo.
Flubber for sheeping Junko and I believe 355-368 could be a distancing move. Less sure about this though.

Persivul · Post Post #459 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:56 am

How often have you seen scum actually quickhammer? Seems like mostly a myth in my experience.

Dannflor · Post Post #460 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:57 am

In a 13 player game, is 2 or 3 scum standard?

JunkoChan · Post Post #461 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:59 am

In post 458, Sashaddin wrote:I scumread Junko for the quickhammer attempt and the 417-430 duo.
Flubber for sheeping Junko and I believe 355-368 could be a distancing move. Less sure about this though.

Tbh you are either really bad or scum, scumreading you is a compliment

JunkoChan · Post Post #462 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:00 am

In post 457, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 396, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 395, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why
Why not? Read day 1

In post 411, JunkoChan wrote: @xwing Do I have to?.. I believe last 3 pages of fay 1 are very selfexplanatory
Your quickhammer was self-explanatory. Those last 3 pages are not, can you summarize them to me please?

No, gomenasai

Persivul · Post Post #463 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:15 am

In post 460, Dannflor wrote:In a 13 player game, is 2 or 3 scum standard?

3

Dannflor · Post Post #464 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:24 am

Hm. BuJaber, what are your thoughts on Sashaddin? You neglect to mention him in your list of scummy Tchill votes. What do you think of his activity towards the end of D1 and interaction with the Tchill wagon? What is your read on him?

Egix96 · Post Post #465 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:36 am

In post 430, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 429, Sashaddin wrote:Right now I'm torn between putting BJ at L-1 or follow from day 1 and OMGUS Junko. 418 was just rude.
Cry baby

L-1

VOTE: Bluffager

I still Believe this flips green
, but mow downs the list of suspects

Then why vote him???

In post 437, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 436, Persivul wrote:Let's get some intent on Blu. Assuming this goes through, I'm targeting sash tonight.
??? Eh What are you again?
UNVOTE:

This is blatant rolefishing...

Junko, I really don't like how scummy you're being here.

Egix96 · Post Post #466 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:40 am

In post 460, Dannflor wrote:In a 13 player game, is 2 or 3 scum standard?

Weird question to ask... why did you feel the need to say this?

Dannflor · Post Post #467 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:41 am

Because I'm not sure yet whether Sash and Bujaber are scum together, which may mean I need to revisit my town reads.

JunkoChan · Post Post #468 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:09 am

@Egix you know what a scum slip is? I can see that post meant for a faction chat and not this thread, rookie mistake but a possibility

Egix96 · Post Post #469 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:14 am

In post 468, JunkoChan wrote:@Egix you know what a scum slip is? I can see that post meant for a faction chat and not this thread, rookie mistake but a possibility

I highly doubt that.

rosterfoster · Post Post #470 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:39 am

In post 433, BuJaber wrote:
And I have never seen in my life a townie that builds up a huge case on their top scumread only to vote someone else before. So I don't understand your townread on rooster at all. It shows lack of conviction in his own case.

VOTE: rooster

That surprises me.

You're not the only one whose name is spelt wrong constantly.

In post 468, JunkoChan wrote:@Egix you know what a scum slip is? I can see that post meant for a faction chat and not this thread, rookie mistake but a possibility

Confusion

Also, I feel somewhat better towards Xwing today.

Other scum may well be Sash, but also 430 from Junko makes me feel bad. It would be so odd for scum to say something like that though, so IDK. Just why would a townie vote for someone they think's town? When they have actual scum reads.

Dannflor · Post Post #471 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:40 am

In post 436, Persivul wrote:Let's get some intent on Blu. Assuming this goes through, I'm targeting sash tonight.

Junko, are you saying this post was meant for scum PT? Or are you referring to something else?

JunkoChan · Post Post #472 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:07 am

In post 471, Dannflor wrote:
In post 436, Persivul wrote:Let's get some intent on Blu. Assuming this goes through, I'm targeting sash tonight.
Junko, are you saying this post was meant for scum PT? Or are you referring to something else?

Could be, maybe I'm reading too much into it

Persivul · Post Post #473 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:18 am

LOL, that was to me? I'm not color blind.

Sashaddin · Post Post #474 (ISO) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:40 am

In post 461, JunkoChan wrote:Tbh you are either really bad or scum, scumreading you is a compliment

Am I the best at this game? No
Do I like to play? Yes
Do I want to learn? Yes
What does it do if I am the worst on the lineup? It always takes one, doesn't it?
Do I like your attitude towards me? Not at all. You are being rude and insulting for absolutely nothing.