In post 151, Birdy wrote:It's not that maintaining your vote on someone you voted in RVS is scummy. It's that he only started "actually" scumreading him once Egix placed Overkill at L-2, i.e. when it became the first major wagon of the game. This seems to me like scum going for an easy D1 lynch. The fact that it was his RVS vote is more or less irrelevant; it's that it became a serious vote after overkill became an easier target. Essentially I'm doubting that GrandWazoo's reasons for voting Overkill are town-aligned.
So my vote only became "serious"
after
somebody else voted Overkil1? Seems to me your beef is with Egix, though putting someone at L-2 is hardly "going for an easy lynch." I don't really pay attention to wagons until they hit L-1.
I've already explained my motivations for voting Overkil1 and they weren't random.
In post 145, GrandWazoo wrote:
@Roo: Nope. Just kicking over a hornets nest and seeing what flies out. Could be useful later, even if it doesn't seem so right now.
I get that it is early in the game and we're trying to gather information. But don't you think 111 is a bit of a
misrepresentation
? At least in regard to "tbf" which is only in 36 and talks about dogs and cats?
I prefer "exaggeration" since I wasn't putting words in his mouth. He used tbh another time but I'm too tired to find it. The main point was to generate discussion in a game which at that point was lacking same.
In post 149, RCEnigma wrote:None of this argument is going to be relevant later.
In post 155, RCEnigma wrote:If overkill flipped scum and I take the tbf/tbh thing into consideration then Grandwazoo is probably scum there too.
So is it relevant or isn't it? And if Overkil1 was my scumbuddy, wouldn't my actions be like the worst distancing tactic ever?
In post 145, GrandWazoo wrote:
@Roo: Nope. Just kicking over a hornets nest and seeing what flies out. Could be useful later, even if it doesn't seem so right now.
I get that it is early in the game and we're trying to gather information. But don't you think 111 is a bit of a
misrepresentation
? At least in regard to "tbf" which is only in 36 and talks about dogs and cats?
I prefer "exaggeration" since I wasn't putting words in his mouth. He used tbh another time but I'm too tired to find it. The main point was to generate discussion in a game which at that point was lacking same.
In post 149, RCEnigma wrote:None of this argument is going to be relevant later.
In post 155, RCEnigma wrote:If overkill flipped scum and I take the tbf/tbh thing into consideration then Grandwazoo is probably scum there too.
So is it relevant or isn't it? And if Overkil1 was my scumbuddy, wouldn't my actions be like the worst distancing tactic ever?
In post 145, GrandWazoo wrote:
@Roo: Nope. Just kicking over a hornets nest and seeing what flies out. Could be useful later, even if it doesn't seem so right now.
I get that it is early in the game and we're trying to gather information. But don't you think 111 is a bit of a
misrepresentation
? At least in regard to "tbf" which is only in 36 and talks about dogs and cats?
I prefer "exaggeration" since I wasn't putting words in his mouth. He used tbh another time but I'm too tired to find it. The main point was to generate discussion in a game which at that point was lacking same.
In post 149, RCEnigma wrote:None of this argument is going to be relevant later.
In post 155, RCEnigma wrote:If overkill flipped scum and I take the tbf/tbh thing into consideration then Grandwazoo is probably scum there too.
So is it relevant or isn't it? And if Overkil1 was my scumbuddy, wouldn't my actions be like the worst distancing tactic ever?
It's not, but continuing to press the issue is relevant. Point is, is not worth basing a case on. It's unfortunate because I think the push on you has scum hiding in it.
In post 177, GrandWazoo wrote:I prefer "exaggeration" since I wasn't putting words in his mouth. He used tbh another time but I'm too tired to find it. The main point was to generate discussion in a game which at that point was lacking same.
You aren't really addressing my point. When you look at Overkill's ISO, he said "tbf" one time and lumping it into your post saying that Overkill used "tbh" was very misleading in my opinion, it wasn't just an exaggeration. Additionally, in general I'm not even sure how helpful this information would be, so adding in misleading information makes me think you are scummy. The only defense you are giving me is this generate discussion line, which feels thin.
In post 145, GrandWazoo wrote:
@Roo: Nope. Just kicking over a hornets nest and seeing what flies out. Could be useful later, even if it doesn't seem so right now.
I get that it is early in the game and we're trying to gather information. But don't you think 111 is a bit of a
misrepresentation
? At least in regard to "tbf" which is only in 36 and talks about dogs and cats?
I prefer "exaggeration" since I wasn't putting words in his mouth. He used tbh another time but I'm too tired to find it. The main point was to generate discussion in a game which at that point was lacking same.
In post 149, RCEnigma wrote:None of this argument is going to be relevant later.
In post 155, RCEnigma wrote:If overkill flipped scum and I take the tbf/tbh thing into consideration then Grandwazoo is probably scum there too.
So is it relevant or isn't it? And if Overkil1 was my scumbuddy, wouldn't my actions be like the worst distancing tactic ever?
It's not, but continuing to press the issue is relevant. Point is, is not worth basing a case on. It's unfortunate because I think the push on you has scum hiding in it.
In post 179, RCEnigma wrote:It's not, but continuing to press the issue is relevant. Point is, is not worth basing a case on. It's unfortunate because I think the
push on you has scum hiding in it
.
For this very reason I believe it's a beneficial development for town.
In post 177, GrandWazoo wrote:I prefer "exaggeration" since I wasn't putting words in his mouth. He used tbh another time but I'm too tired to find it. The main point was to generate discussion in a game which at that point was lacking same.
You aren't really addressing my point. When you look at Overkill's ISO, he said "tbf" one time and lumping it into your post saying that Overkill used "tbh" was very misleading in my opinion, it wasn't just an exaggeration. Additionally, in general I'm not even sure how helpful this information would be, so adding in misleading information makes me think you are scummy. The only defense you are giving me is this generate discussion line, which feels thin.
VOTE: GrandWazoo
You know what, I really don't feel like lynching Wazoo is the way to go here, and I'm sure Enigma would agree.
In post 177, GrandWazoo wrote:I prefer "exaggeration" since I wasn't putting words in his mouth. He used tbh another time but I'm too tired to find it. The main point was to generate discussion in a game which at that point was lacking same.
You aren't really addressing my point. When you look at Overkill's ISO, he said "tbf" one time and lumping it into your post saying that Overkill used "tbh" was very misleading in my opinion, it wasn't just an exaggeration. Additionally, in general I'm not even sure how helpful this information would be, so adding in misleading information makes me think you are scummy. The only defense you are giving me is this generate discussion line, which feels thin.
VOTE: GrandWazoo
You know what, I really don't feel like lynching Wazoo is the way to go here, and I'm sure Enigma would agree.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Roo
Could you explain your reasoning a little more?
Also why bring Enigma into this? How does him agreeing or not agreeing effect your read on the situation?
@RCEenigma: I agree with your reasoning about the overki11 wagon, who do you think is scum on it?
I'm still thinking Roo is mafia, and would think 1 of the team on, one off. Which makes egix and overki11 pretty town for me... I remain conflicted re GW as don't like their play but process of elimination suggests no. So not my preferred lynch for today.
In post 177, GrandWazoo wrote:I prefer "exaggeration" since I wasn't putting words in his mouth. He used tbh another time but I'm too tired to find it. The main point was to generate discussion in a game which at that point was lacking same.
You aren't really addressing my point. When you look at Overkill's ISO, he said "tbf" one time and lumping it into your post saying that Overkill used "tbh" was very misleading in my opinion, it wasn't just an exaggeration. Additionally, in general I'm not even sure how helpful this information would be, so adding in misleading information makes me think you are scummy. The only defense you are giving me is this generate discussion line, which feels thin.
VOTE: GrandWazoo
You know what, I really don't feel like lynching Wazoo is the way to go here, and I'm sure Enigma would agree.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Roo
Could you explain your reasoning a little more?
Also why bring Enigma into this? How does him agreeing or not agreeing effect your read on the situation?
My line of thinking was that Enigma wouldn't be willing to vote Wazoo, because why would he vote someone who he thought was being pushed by scum? That would make no sense.
As for that last question, I don't feel it would yet be a good idea to answer it, seeing as Enigma hasn't yet responded since my previous post. I wouldn't want to give a potential scum!Enigma any ideas as to what I would expect him to say.
In post 190, GrandWazoo wrote:This game has ground to a halt again. Hella busy weekend so won't be around much before DL. If we can't lynch Over I'm OK with Roo.
yes the wagon led by your top scumread is the wagon you want to join.
In post 191, CatStar wrote:@RCEenigma: I agree with your reasoning about the overki11 wagon, who do you think is scum on it?
I'm still thinking Roo is mafia, and would think 1 of the team on, one off. Which makes egix and overki11 pretty town for me... I remain conflicted re GW as don't like their play but process of elimination suggests no. So not my preferred lynch for today.
One of Roo or Yellow, both ping me in different ways. I will say that in yellows case it isn't necessarily them, but how people have played around him. If that makes sense.
Outside of that, Egix isn't on the wagon but I think a scum case could be made there too. His last post comes off weird in the end and I keep rereading it. They don't scumread me or they wouldn't piggyback off my read. So why veil your thought process in case I'm scum? I dunno just seems like a weird disconnect.
In post 190, GrandWazoo wrote:This game has ground to a halt again. Hella busy weekend so won't be around much before DL. If we can't lynch Over I'm OK with Roo.
yes the wagon led by your top scumread is the wagon you want to join.
Just being pragmatic here. Somebody needs to be strung up.
Your Roo vote was back on P1 (24) and you've barely mentioned it since. Give me a reason other than the lamist post.
In post 190, GrandWazoo wrote:This game has ground to a halt again. Hella busy weekend so won't be around much before DL. If we can't lynch Over I'm OK with Roo.
yes the wagon led by your top scumread is the wagon you want to join.
Just being pragmatic here. Somebody needs to be strung up.
Your Roo vote was back on P1 (24) and you've barely mentioned it since. Give me a reason other than the lamist post.
firstly I really only need 1 reason to scumread anyone, and stick to it.
Secondly I might post a wall or something later sometime in the next 24 hours.
