In post 169, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:From the outside looking in, someone may reasonably see me as protecting Elements.
I thought you had a scum lean on me?
I definitely don't have a solid town read on you, Elements, but I also don't have a scum read. I meant to reevaluate you in light of Salami's flip. I have a slight scum read on Skitters and a scum read on Salami.
If BBmolla and Salami are scum partners, then that would explain why he'd break up a wagon on his partner. Otherwise, he's scum-hunting, and that's exactly what he should be doing. If he's scum and Salami is not, then it wouldn't make sense to break up a wagon on someone he knows is town. Why mess up a nice mislynch like that?
In post 178, BBmolla wrote:NotMy, did Mary’s single post not questioning me outdo everything that was involved in your townread of her? That’s a quick turnaround.
There wasn't much of a townread other than her reasonable arguments, which as it has been pointed out to me doesn't mean much. Combine that with the extreme clash of your vote and her townread, and yeah, it does outdo it.
In post 169, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:From the outside looking in, someone may reasonably see me as protecting Elements.
I thought you had a scum lean on me?
I definitely don't have a solid town read on you, Elements, but I also don't have a scum read. I meant to reevaluate you in light of Salami's flip. I have a slight scum read on Skitters and a scum read on Salami.
If BBmolla and Salami are scum partners, then that would explain why he'd break up a wagon on his partner. Otherwise, he's scum-hunting, and that's exactly what he should be doing. If he's scum and Salami is not, then it wouldn't make sense to break up a wagon on someone he knows is town. Why mess up a nice mislynch like that?
So you're saying at least one of BBmolla and Salami are scum? Or am I misreading you?
In post 183, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:I believe the lynch occurs when 5 players vote for the same person, up until 10 days. After 10 days, majority rules.
after 10 days, no lynch.
It is much more beneficial for town to keep the day going for as long as sensibly possible so there are lots of interactions to analyse and longer for scum to slip up
Look at it from the perspective that Salami is scum (which we do not know). IF Salami is scum and BBmolla is his scum partner, then we will be able to see in retrospect (after the game) that BBmolla was removing the wagon from his scum partner. If Salami is town and BBmolla is scum, then BBmolla's effort to move the wagon off Salami doesn't make sense because he had an easy mislynch all lined up for himself when he logged in.
If we were to lynch Salami and Salami flipped scum, then we might reasonably look to BBmolla who moved the wagon off Salami, but that still doesn't mean that BBmolla is scum. He might have just been town trying to latch onto what would be for him a more logical target.
If you decide to lynch me and I flip green (and I will), then I would start looking much more carefully at Salami and BBmolla. Salami for the reasons I stated in previous posts (his play doesn't seem newbish), and BBmolla for possibly (but not certainly) protecting a scum partner.
In post 183, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:I believe the lynch occurs when 5 players vote for the same person, up until 10 days. After 10 days, majority rules.
after 10 days, no lynch.
It is much more beneficial for town to keep the day going for as long as sensibly possible so there are lots of interactions to analyse and longer for scum to slip up
I think we should keep talking until Tall1s is replaced and then do a lynch. Even if it's a mislynch, we'll have gathered some useful evidence to work with.
In post 187, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:I think we should keep talking until Tall1s is replaced and then do a lynch. Even if it's a mislynch, we'll have gathered some useful evidence to work with.
When we lynch someone the day ends instantly, no more discussion, and mafia get a night to talk to each other and plan and kill (assuming a mislynch). The longer we wait before we lynch the more information town can gather both before and as a result of the lynch.
Look at it from the perspective that Salami is scum (which we do not know). IF Salami is scum and BBmolla is his scum partner, then we will be able to see in retrospect (after the game) that BBmolla was removing the wagon from his scum partner. If Salami is town and BBmolla is scum, then BBmolla's effort to move the wagon off Salami doesn't make sense because he had an easy mislynch all lined up for himself when he logged in.
If we were to lynch Salami and Salami flipped scum, then we might reasonably look to BBmolla who moved the wagon off Salami, but that still doesn't mean that BBmolla is scum. He might have just been town trying to latch onto what would be for him a more logical target.
If you decide to lynch me and I flip green (and I will), then I would start looking much more carefully at Salami and BBmolla. Salami for the reasons I stated in previous posts (his play doesn't seem newbish), and BBmolla for possibly (but not certainly) protecting a scum partner.
BBmolla didn't move the wagon off me, he was originally voting for cbynumber and then voted for you. Your reasoning is becoming really stupid and longwinded, I'm town so it's impossible for BB and myself to be a scumteam and it's premature for you to speculate on partners until one of the scum has actually been lynched.
In post 183, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:I believe the lynch occurs when 5 players vote for the same person, up until 10 days. After 10 days, majority rules.
after 10 days, no lynch.
It is much more beneficial for town to keep the day going for as long as sensibly possible so there are lots of interactions to analyse and longer for scum to slip up
I think we should keep talking until Tall1s is replaced and then do a lynch. Even if it's a mislynch, we'll have gathered some useful evidence to work with.
Sounds like you already know I'm going to flip town.
In post 157, NotMySpamAccount wrote:Looking back at what has happened, Salami is probably just overconfident, but I'm leaning a bit scummy on him. I'll wait for TTTT to give his reasons before I vote though.
Stop just running with what the crowd does, learn to think for yourself!
In post 109, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:Replying to Skitter here: I read town on everyone with a slight (very slight) scum lean on you. Sorry.
Elements didn't actually say anything that I didn't say as well. We both saw NMSA's post as LAMIST. I just pointed it out to see if he would become defensive. He did not.
Basically, I just thought Elements made a perfectly justified accusation of LAMISTness from NMSA and I was surprised that Skitter didn't see it that way. My lean on her is very slight and as I look through the posts, I wonder if she wasn't just being a good ic and trying to bail a newbie out.
In post 191, MaryJoLisa2 wrote:I think even if there's a mislynch, the remaining scum member performs a nightkill.
Yes, but the information we gather will all be based on hunches. I'm not really sure what the best course of action is.
Your logic is all over the place and makes no sense
I just don't feel that we have enough information to work with. A lynch (any lynch) would start to provide some context for what we've been saying and the cases we've been trying to build.
BBmolla: i agree with reasoning behind opinions on MJL. posts seem like scum hunting but i don't understand their stance on Salami
Salami: Very agressive entry into the game with no reasoning other than "i'm right listen to me" which isn't reasoning
MaryJoLisa2: Indecisive and noncommittal posts could be newbieness or scumness. More recently suggesting we end the game early and post 191 are potential scum slips coming from inexperiance. - would change vote but don't want to put at L1 in case of a lol hammer
NotMySpamAccount: now believing that this is his first game, i can seen town reasoning behind his posts and vote changes
cbynumber: nice analysis of posts, asks probing questions
skitter30: probably IC paranoia stopping this from being a town lean, but i don't understand how LAMIST doesn't look scummy at all
TTTT: very much town driven posts and explanations. looking forward to the continuation from post 155
