Newbie 1915: Africa [Game Over!]

[northsidegal]

VC 1.12

votes

[3] skitter30

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Elements 263, MaryJoLisa2 289, cbynumber 345

[3] MaryJoLisa2

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BBmolla 162, NotMySpamAccount 167, skitter30 411

[1] Dick Richards

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TTTT 320

[1] TTTT

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Salami 317

[1] Not Voting

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Dick Richards

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

The Day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-02-10 15:56:59)

Mod Notes

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[MaryJoLisa]

@Elements - your take on skitter v. maryjo?

Most of their interactions seem to end in either an apology for not responding because of IRL stuff, "thanks for help", or "DW i get you have irl stuff". I'm not rlly sure what to make of that.

We are both accusing one another of being murderous liars who stalk innocents in the night. A little courtesy is called for to maintain objectivity. This is, after all, just a game.

[BBmolla]

I'm still pretty great with my vote but a skitter vote also looks pretty nice

[Elements]

I'm still pretty great with my vote but a skitter vote also looks pretty nice

You come back after over 100 posts and that's all you have to say?

[BBmolla]

I'm still pretty great with my vote but a skitter vote also looks pretty nice

You come back after over 100 posts and that's all you have to say?

yep

[Elements]

VOTE: BBmolla

[BBmolla]

lmao

what do you even want to know, I think the two current wagons are on the scummiest players

[Elements]

lmao

what do you even want to know, I think the two current wagons are on the scummiest players

I want you to actually help the game progress. And randomly popping up every 100 posts saying "seems good" is not helpful at all.

[BBmolla]

lmao

what do you even want to know, I think the two current wagons are on the scummiest players

I want you to actually help the game progress. And randomly popping up every 100 posts saying "seems good" is not helpful at all.

Why not? If the game is going the way I think is correct than why spam the thread?

[skitter30]

Buddying is probably not the right word. It definitely felt like you were posturing in the event that the MaryJo lynch had gone through (a strong possibility that it may have happened if the DR slot had shown up given that MaryJo already had 3 votes and both you and elements had stated your intent to vote for her). This signals to me that you knew MaryJo alignment, and were taking preparatory steps in shifting certain player's (myself included) mindsets for the next day.

If you're approaching your perspective that the Salami wagon was being driven by scumMaryJo, how does TTTT's vote read to you as coming from scum in any way?

I disagree that i'm posturing and setting up tomorrow's lynch; i havent really thought about it at all - i dont know who we're lynching today or whay they'll flip or who the nk will be, and all of those are vital factors in figuring out who's scum tomorrow. None of these things have happened yet, and i'm not figuring out tomorrow's lynch when i"m still figuring out my preferred lynch for *today*

(Also if i'm scum here i don't think i try to mislynch town!tttt, it's a lot easier to just nk him, no reasom to make things difficult for myself)

Maryjo's push was bad
At the time i thought tttt's vote was bad as well (my opinion on this has since changed).
It's day1, there arent any flips, and i'm not figuring out teams really rn. Both things were independantly bad so i called them out for it.
On balance thinking through tttt/maryjo interactions they probably are not scum together

[skitter30]

@Elements - your take on skitter v. maryjo?

I have scum reads/leans on both of them.
Skitter has been v/la and used that as an excuse for not pushing the game forwards or actively scum hunting as much as others. Could be true, hopefully now it's ended they can do this more and persuade my they are town. I'd rather not lynch a town IC day one again.

Things have settled down and i should ne more present now

[skitter30]

I'm still pretty great with my vote but a skitter vote also looks pretty nice

Popping in to say that you're chill with both leading wagons withiut doing anything else is scummy imo

(You prob aren't scum with maryjo tho)

[skitter30]

ok:
for the former, i'm not sure why you're assuming my lack of 'advancing town's position' or scumhunting is a function of my alignment and not, say, of being busy irl

for the latter: where do you see that my primary objective is to distract people or make people second-guess themselves? like what have i specifically done that makes you think i am purposefully doing this?

i know long post is long
this section in particular is important and i'd like you to address these two points specifically out of all the points i've made here

@maryjo can't tell if u saw this

[Elements]

lmao

what do you even want to know, I think the two current wagons are on the scummiest players

I want you to actually help the game progress. And randomly popping up every 100 posts saying "seems good" is not helpful at all.

Why not? If the game is going the way I think is correct than why spam the thread?

Having just gone through your ISO, you have made a grand total of 4 noticeable remarks all game.
1) MJL is probs scum because of non-committal posts
2) Salami is town because of genuine reactions
3) How come no one has any reads on me?
4) I'm happy with a skitter/MJL lynch
It's almost like you're scum letting us lynch MJL/skitter who you know are town.

[skitter30]

It's almost like you're scum letting us lynch MJL/skitter who you know are town.

Yeah i'm kinda getting this vibe too; that's why i don't think he and maryjo are really scum together and is making me kinda question the wisdom of a maryjo lynch rn; i might switch to bbmolla actually; this us the vibe i was getting from 315 and why i was asking people about it

[BBmolla]

lmao

what do you even want to know, I think the two current wagons are on the scummiest players

I want you to actually help the game progress. And randomly popping up every 100 posts saying "seems good" is not helpful at all.

Why not? If the game is going the way I think is correct than why spam the thread?

Having just gone through your ISO, you have made a grand total of 4 noticeable remarks all game.
1) MJL is probs scum because of non-committal posts
2) Salami is town because of genuine reactions
3) How come no one has any reads on me?
4) I'm happy with a skitter/MJL lynch
It's almost like you're scum letting us lynch MJL/skitter who you know are town.

What makes it seem like that as opposed to town who doesn’t want to spam the thread because the votes are on the right people?

[Elements]

the only 2 reasons you've given for you actions have been MJL is indecisive and salami had a genuine reaction. you haven't told us anything about why you town read other people. or rlly much about your scum read on skitter. you said "not getting any townvibes" great. I'm not getting any from you but the key difference is

I'm explaining why

it's a very helpful thing for town to do

[Elements]

And it's not spam if you're explaining your thoughts

[Elements]

@BBmolla what are your thoughts on TTTT?

i didn't like their posts but I'm waiting to see if it's cause they're scum or it's their personality

Have you come up with anything for this?
for example

[Salami]

It's almost like you're scum letting us lynch MJL/skitter who you know are town.

Yeah i'm kinda getting this vibe too; that's why i don't think he and maryjo are really scum together and is making me kinda question the wisdom of a maryjo lynch rn; i might switch to bbmolla actually; this us the vibe i was getting from 315 and why i was asking people about it

I don't like this post. It feels like you never really Scumread MJL at all and are now considering a BBmolla lynch because he was okay with lynching you. It's survivalist play.

[skitter30]

No, it isn't.
Maryjo is scummy; idk why you think i dont scumread her
Bbmolla is scummy
They arent scum together i'm pretty sure tho

Rn i prefer maryjo.
Bbmolla being cool with both of us is a bad look and scum-indicative - he doesnt actually care who the lynch is on. This makes maryjo a little more likely to be town to me but it's not because of her play, but because of how other people are treating her

Bbmolla are you usually this passive?

Also the fact that he's ok with *my* lynch isn't really the problem i'm having; i don't really care if he thinks that (notice how i'm not pushing you or elements rn; you both scumread me)
The problem is that he'w fine with both competing wagons with no prefeence really between the two of them (incidentally one of which happens to be on me; if he had said the samr thing about two other competing wagons, neithr of which were on me, i'd be making the same protest)

The lack of reads or preference or like caring who actually gets lynched so long as a lynch happens is scummy imo

[Salami]

I get where you're coming from but that just seems like his playstyle from reading his games. On first glance yeah it seems scummy but he is an experienced player so I don't think he'd be so obvious about it if he really were scum? Maybe I am just overthinking it this game has exhausted me a little.

[TTTT]

On first glance yeah it seems scummy but he is an experienced player so I don't think he'd be so obvious about it if he really were scum?

I was just about to write this same thought
but you saved me the trouble

[Elements]

surely he also wouldn't play so scummily

[skitter30]

I get where you're coming from but that just seems like his playstyle from reading his games. On first glance yeah it seems scummy but he is an experienced player so I don't think he'd be so obvious about it if he really were scum? Maybe I am just overthinking it this game has exhausted me a little.

Idk, i've not played with him before; if i have time i'll look at some of his prior games to compare but i dont have a baseline for what his game usually looks rn