Newbie 1915: Africa [Game Over!]

[MaryJoLisa]

Yeah, i'm still not getting it right. I'll figure it out eventually.

[northsidegal]

VC 1.16

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[3] skitter30

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MaryJoLisa2 289, cbynumber 345, Elements 518

[2] MaryJoLisa2

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NotMySpamAccount 167, skitter30 411

[1] TTTT

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Salami 317

[1] NotMySpamAccount

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TTTT 507

[1] Salami

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u r a person 2 607

[1] Not Voting

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BBmolla 599

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

The Day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-02-11 15:56:59)

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[u r a person 2]

[ post]650[ /post]
remove the spaces and it will link the post
650

[MaryJoLisa]

650

[MaryJoLisa]

I dunno, TTTT. Urap has vacuumed out his pocket for me and made sure there was a chilled bottle of chardonnay in there.

You might've been pocket-blocked by Urap.

[u r a person 2]

Pocketing as town is my greatest strength ;P

[u r a person 2]

@MJ was there a second half to that response about what you found scummy independent of my read?

[MaryJoLisa]

There will be, but I have dinner and family obligations for the rest of the evening. Got some people in from out of town. That's why I'm V/LA.

[u r a person 2]

roger

[u r a person 2]

Where did your scum read on SPAM come from?

Spoiler:

It won't be happening, and I'm currently feeling more inspired about cybnumber's line of thinking about SPAM. I've made similar mistakes as SPAM in my first game. When you're coming in with a fresh pair of eyes and absolutely no preparation on what moves people might take, you look to others to see what they're thinking and see if you can justify that line of reasoning. That's why I appear to be fence sitting, it's because I'm announcing my train of thought as I'm formulating it.

If SPAM is legit new, then his inability to formulate his own reads may just be because he doesn't know what to look for yet and he's trying to learn from others to see what they see.

Today I'll be considering the possibility that SPAM is being directed behind the scenes to ham it up with that newbie act and I'll reevaluate his actions with that in mind.

I think you're doing just fine, Spam. Don't take any criticism personally and by your next game, you'll have some strategies in place to do some proper scum hunting. For now focus on learning and do your best to contribute what you think you see and try your best to justify why you think it.

It's okay to be wrong, too. You'll learn from your mistakes.

Okay go after Skitter and Elements when I'm gone.

I was sure I saw 4. Well... marching orders still stand. Skitter and Elements. Especially after that incredibly LAMIST post of his about how and when Mafia communicate during a game. Seriously? No call to do that after jumping on Spam for his LAMIST move in the beginning. Look at their interactions. Look at their defense strategy.

@MaryJ can you give me a quick tiered read list, please? no explanations required

After having read your thoughts but without having fully processed what you've said:
Town: You
Town: TTTT
Town: cbynumber
Meh/Town: BBmolla
Meh/Town: Elements
Meh/okay-maybe-possibly-not-scum: Skitter
Meh/Scum: NotMySpamAccount
Scum: Salami

[TTTT]

VOTE: Salami
run 'em up!

[NotMySpamAccount]

So I finally found some time to play, welcome urap2, finally the slot has posted. Aspersions are still being cast on me due to my inactivity. Again, I apologize. This will hopefully make up for it. Lots of stuff going on in the thread now, my thoughts below as I catch up. Textwall incoming.

Outside of TTTT then skitter30 is probably the best lynch, she looked scummy about her implying she would join the BBmolla wagon. I'd also be fine with a Spam lynch because he is generally anti-town. I'm almost willing to lynch the lurker slot but that would be dumb before it gets replaced.

Anti-town how? Inactivity? I've been busy irl, and I'm still learning the game.

Also NMSA vanishing is only solidifying my read on him.

Again, irl stuff. I'm not going to be posting as much as I did earlier until at least the weekend. It's tough to keep track of everything when I can only get on for ~5 minutes in my downtime.

I understand but what do you think of the game so far? Do you still want to lynch MJL or what?

Yeah, I'm still fine with this, as you can tell by the fact that my vote is still there. Posts like 508, 510 have no content whatsoever.

I'm just trying to learn the game and be friendly. I wanted to post something friendly before I really dug into the meat of the game, and I thought it would be ok to say that since I'm with the good guys. Like I said, I have no idea what I'm doing, just trying to be nice and have fun.

My man! Keep this attitude up. Mafia needs more players working to keep games friendly and fun.

Yay thanks, trying to keep up my activity too, but life is getting in the way somewhat.

nope, it dropped off significantly since then
he's claiming being busy irl but he hasn't said anything of substance ... in like days iirc; i've basically lost the townread i had on him early game

Interesting

"(it's ok to say that, right?)" is my favorite part

I see what you're saying. I kind of believe he's new to mafia. But if he's asking this question that means he had to consider that it wasn't okay to say that. So why did he say it?

Does newb!scum come out the gates with a hard dumbtell like this? Does he assume it will get him universally townread, or does he think the scum reads will be worth getting town reads from the people that do believe it?

It's certainly audacious but not impossible coming from newb scum. I think it's fair to say that most newb scum don't try this gambit.

and then there is the possibility that he's newb scum posting genuinely in the sense that he doesn't know that you're not supposed to claim like that, but newb scum is probably more likely to read the thread before posting, I guess. so probably not that.

This was my first ever post in a mafia game, if you read my next few, you'll see that I didn't even read the thread before it. I found out my mistake afterwards when I read the ic post.

kinda liking urap's posting thus far tbh

Same here, this is what I want to learn to do, post analysis and scumhunting, wish I was good at it.

To respond to these, I don't know usernames as I said before, but I'll check when I get a chance. I haven't played mafia before, but I read a load of wiki stuff since my initial posts, so I know what's going on a little better now.

second time putting off revealing your friends. I'm hesitant to push this because reasons but I'm low key wondering if these friends exist or if they were just fluff for a post. a good tip for town - keep the promises you make

like, I'm not doubting that you have friends btw <3

Crap, forgot again. When they text back, I'll let y'all know.

and skitter is a more experienced player who would definitely be better for town to have around

wow i didn't mean for this to come off so harsh. sorry mate, hope this doesn't stop us from becoming friends <3

It's fine, we can still be friends, skitter would definitely be more valuable to us if town.

I really just wanna hear more from NotMy

Is this good?

After reading through all of that, Here are my reads:

Elements: I can't tell from my gut, but maybe town?
Salami: After urap's stuff, I'm tending scum here.
cbynumber: Textwalls, scumhunting, probly town.
u r a person 2: Town as crap. Loads of scumhunting, loving it.
MaryJoLisa: Probably scum. Not enough content, just trying to defend herself.
BBmolla: Confusing. I kinda see the arguments coming out, but slowly. Gut leaning scum, but not much
TTTT: Lots of short posts, not a lot being said other than quick responses to questions. He's asking questions though, so null/town I guess.
skitter30: Textwalls galore, not sure if that's ai, but pretty much null. I just can't get any sort of gut read here at this point.

Would not lynch: urap, cby, myself
Would lynch: MJL, Salami, skitter
Not sure: elements, TTTT, BBmolla

VOTE: skitter30 because we're getting kinda close to the deadline and we need a lynch. I'm fine with this one, and most other people seem to be too.

[northsidegal]

Prodding Salami.

[u r a person 2]

That's L-1 on skitter btw

[u r a person 2]

anybody have insight into Skitter's scum meta?

[MaryJoLisa]

Okay, so the chardonnay was spectacular. Muchas gracias. Are we shifting this wagon over to Salami then?

[u r a person 2]

If you're asking for someone to direct your vote, I will.

But you should make that choice

[MaryJoLisa]

that is exactly the kind of thing I would say! I actually had the speech all prepared to give for Skitter just in case she would flip green.

I like you, Urap.

[MaryJoLisa]

Oh, damn it. I just tried to get you fast tracked through the system, Urap, but security has red-flagged you. As much as I like you, security hasn't yet cleared you to direct my vote. Apparently you "still could be Skitter's lost scum partner" if she's actually scum. Bah. Best to let the system do its thing then.

[u r a person 2]

good because trying to shove off responsibility for your vote is p. scummy

[u r a person 2]

MJL would be an excellent target if we have an investigative role btw

[MaryJoLisa]

I welcome the investigation.

[u r a person 2]

This is just my opinion, but the day might end soon, and I'm starting to get that feeling like I won't be around tomorrow

Investigative checks are best used on the null reads.

You don't want to waste them on people town read by most of the game, and you don't want to use them on slots you're likely to flip early anyway because even if you town read them and prevent the lynch, there was probably a reason they were being scum read in the first place, and no one is really going to listen to their reads
But if you use them on those people in the middle, you can take a lot of uncertainty out of the game AND replace it with a confirmed town that can push their reads

so in this game, fmpov, that's people like MJL, BBmolla, and maybe skitter

[northsidegal]

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