Mini 2057: Year 2057 (Game Over)

[Slaxx]

Votecount 1.9

Future Fun Fact: If you bought a share of Facebook in 2004, it would be worth 7 electoral votes now.

TemporalLich(5):

RadiantCowbells (77), ssbm_Kyouko (90), Lovebird (92), Dannflor (294), xwing (356)

Gamma Emerald (2):

Vedith (104), Hopkirk (140),

Yumeko Jabami (2):

DrDolittle (278), Gamma Emerald (283)

Radiant Cowbells (2):

Yumeko Jabami (247), TemporalLich (303)

Hopkirk (1):

Mary Saotome (254)

DrDolittle(1):

Emperor flippyNips (157)

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-02-21 21:00:00)

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

[DrDolittle]

strongest town for me is kyouko though..

hey xwing why is ssbm your strongest town read?

[DrDolittle]

@slaxx fb was founded in 2004!

Of course I knew that....

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[Dannflor]

Aight not a lot of time today but here's the scoop

SSBM is also my strongest town read DDL, I can quote her specific quotes later that really exemplify this but honestly if you ISO them and they're questioning/logic throughout the game it looks really obv town imo

In response to Vedith asking me for more reasoning, I think it's been laid out by RC pretty well so far. I think I was overthinking with my previous wagon hopping argument. The strongest point I've seen for town!lich, is Mary's (I think she was the one who made it) point about scum trying to coach him. Honestly though, I think Lich already put himself in a hole with his previous posting. His posting since than has been pretty WTF with SKs and stuff, in a way that to me does not read genuine. It feels like trying really hard to seem like dumb newbie because that's the best and only defense he has.

In addition, there's so much fucking resistance to this wagon. You're painting this narrative of scum just sitting back and being happy but I don't see that here. I see Lich being scum and his partners being among Yumeko/DDL/Gamma/Mary trying desperately to get counter wagons going and painting this as an easy mislynch. The only person I could see as scum on the Lich wagon is Lovebird. Probably, it's a town driven wagon on scum caught early, and scum are working really hard to make sure this lynch doesn't go through because if it does the game looks bad for them.

I don't know why you are trying so hard to fight this lynch when it seems it helps your reads a lot to know this flip. If Lich is indeed town, he's obviously not a strong player (sorry) by the way he's playing. I honestly don't really know where your scum read on me comes at all here, and I think we should lynch this, it'll probably flip red, and then you can refocus because whatever beef you have with RC has tilted you and your reads into the ground.

idk if i missed anything but still 100% think this is the best lynch today, flip gives a lot of information either way too

[Vedith]

I think it's been laid out by RC pretty well so far.

@xwing
Pretty unfair on people voting, eh?

I'm going to bed.

[Dannflor]

think you missed the next two paragraphs of my post but ok

[xwing]

you've

referenced vengecop to the point that i think this is starting to get to discussing ongoing games territory

you should stop brnging it up

i know right..i keep getting confused sorry..

anyway a town!lich would still narrow who scum is, by looking at his wagon..
in the same vein, is your vote on gamma because you think a gamma flip will be informative?

So what reads will a town flip give you?

For a start, I strongly, strongly believe Gamma is Scum.
A town flip makes me think Dann is Scum while a Scum flip makes me favour Dann as town as I don't think their paired actually.

but i strongly believe in a scum!TL too..
btw before you sleep are you still scum reading me?

[RadiantCowbells]

my top 2 townreads are lovebird and xwing

[xwing]

strongest town for me is kyouko though..

hey xwing why is ssbm your strongest town read?

@DDL
because i believe she's doing the below the best:

[snip]i think i like ssbsm_kyoko for town..she's scumhunting and questioning people she finds suspicious..maybe i subtly like her slot coz i found the same people she found as suspicious (e.g. vedith, emp, TL)..

and her posts mostly in page 12, which made me say:

[snip]yeah i think ssbm is strong town..not sure why she's being cage-y about me though..

did you miss my question to you in 373? please get back to me on that..
what's your take on vedith, RC and lich?

[RadiantCowbells]

hilariously ssbm would have been my first pick for a busser on the wagon.

[xwing]

my top 2 townreads are lovebird and xwing

kindly explain why RC?

i agree with dann on lovebird (intentionally irking vedith with my focus)
seriously though, i do agree with dann that if i were to pick scum on TL wagon, i will focus on sorting lovebird, hence why i digged up her previous posts and asked 379..she's also got a pending question from me regarding her "informed" status..

[RadiantCowbells]

my top 2 townreads are lovebird and xwing

kindly explain why RC?

i agree with dann on lovebird (intentionally irking vedith with my focus)
seriously though, i do agree with dann that if i were to pick scum on TL wagon, i will focus on sorting lovebird, hence why i digged up her previous posts and asked 379..she's also got a pending question from me regarding her "informed" status..

seems our reads are entirely backwards

[xwing]

hilariously ssbm would have been my first pick for a busser on the wagon.

wow really? im surprised..why do you think so?

[xwing]

@RC, well we do agree that strongest town read is me, so we have one in common..
oh and that TL is likely scum..make that two..

[RadiantCowbells]

that said

i think the play tomorrow is to lynch like Yumeko
maybe another anti-wagon like Vedith

if it's double town start seriously considering bussers but probably not in the lovebird slot specifically

if you get even one scum you're probably gonna win by lynching everyone not on the wagon.

wow really? im surprised..why do you think so?

you feel ridiculously solvey so obvtown imo
lovebird i have a strong ability to toneread as mary will attest and is already pretty damn likely to be town

ssbm and dannfloor ignoring their presence on the wagon are below null so

[RadiantCowbells]

if mary hasn't made a presence in the thread before i die kill her.

[xwing]

i'd be game on a yumeko wagon, but not on a vedith one right now though i get your logic..
both kyouko and dann seem town to me too..so we're at odds there..
i cant really take your word on lovebird in stone, excited to hear what mary's gotta say about that..

btw @DDL i didnt like that you read my statement on kyouko being my strong town read yet ignored my question directly at you when that question was in a post by its own..

[DrDolittle]

my question directly at you when that question was in a post by its own..

I must have missed it. What's the q

[Lovebird]

I'm back

[Lovebird]

yeah im here and wow it's quite the read already so below are my thoughts based on my skim..

dann is obvtown for me..hopping all around and trying to engage everyone..same vibes as our last game..
gamma is certainly exerting effort compared to last game, but i dunno if it's AI..like her initial suspicion on emperor i found to be townie (where she called out emp's seemingly random vote as scummy, i saw her point because what she's saying is emp said he wanted to do a "random" vote but voted on someone with 0 votes in them and she found it scummy)..at best i can say she's trying to scumhunt compared to our last game..

i got pinged on emperor's statement about "there's nothing scummy..rvs bla bla.." coz it seemed too preemptive..i think dann's clear on him due to emp providing a very shallow reason was too hasty coz i think both scum and town will give this reason esp since it was so early in the page..but multiple people are clearing him so not a priority for now..also emp's statement redirecting focus out of him and his "innocent RVS" to scumhunt can swing both ways for me, so im not convinced of his townieness yet..

im getting confused with the japanese sounding girl names..will need to reread but i think i like ssbsm_kyoko for town..she's scumhunting and questioning people she finds suspicious..maybe i subtly like her slot coz i found the same people she found as suspicious (e.g. vedith, emp, TL)..

vedith said he was new, but i dont buy it based on his posts and join date..so scummy for lying..

TL seems scummy..the way he worded the statement that lovebird is town seemed too certain (TMI)..the interaction between emp and love was too minimal by that time to know if it's TvT or TvS or SvS..he then backtracks to lovebird being "potentially town" to try to insert uncertainty..also i dont think switching to wagons of the same number clears him, i just think he's switching to whoever seems to be the more viable lynch..

by that same vein i think RC is town for casing TL and pushing for his lynch..i dont think there's scummy agenda here..
the rest of the players i dont have much of an opinion so far..

Seems towny

[Lovebird]

And I don't just say so because there's lots of words

[RadiantCowbells]

be my townblock friend lovebird with xwing

[Lovebird]

@lovebird: are you insinuating you are informed, and backing up the miller claim?

Idk, am I?

[Lovebird]

be my townblock friend lovebird with xwing

Ya. But, let's invite some other people.

[Slaxx]

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