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Post Post #3800 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:41 pm

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On an unrelated note, I was recently considering that my username may have been a poor choice in terms of ability to search for people referring to me.
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Post Post #3801 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:41 pm

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this would all really be easier if i didn't actually have the power to lynch thebrie regardless of everyone elses reads on her

brie pls convince me you're town somehow
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Post Post #3802 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:42 pm

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And yes Gamma, I was ignoring your question.
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Post Post #3803 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:57 pm

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the sheer lack of flips is making this difficult for me to keep straight in my head

i don't think i can give a read on thebrie as htings are
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Post Post #3804 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:00 pm

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alright i'll take my hands off here

moment pick who you are more confident is town

i'll respect it i guess
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Post Post #3805 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:02 pm

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a lot of my reads in this game i'm not sure if they're coming from a good place

i think that both my brie and ss reads would be included in reads that for
reasons
there's some baggage associated with such that i don't entirely trust it
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Post Post #3806 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:03 pm

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Does that mean I shouldn't accept yet?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #3807 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:04 pm

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I would say yes.
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Post Post #3808 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:06 pm

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In post 3796, RadiantCowbells wrote:NO SON OF MINE IS BRINGING AN AUSSIE GIRL HOME MOMENT
In post 3801, RadiantCowbells wrote:this would all really be easier if i didn't actually have the power to lynch thebrie regardless of everyone elses reads on her

brie pls convince me you're town somehow
Somehow. I don't know how.

But the only scum game where I didn't do something stupid (giving reads that make no sense or a super opportunistic) that got me lynched (or nearly so, saved by blitz deadlines), it was because you were my partner and coaching me. So one way to see if I'm scum is to put extreme pressure on me, and see how I react. Except I'm probably too aware now for that to be accurate.

Also, you'll see what happens with my reads once I have flips to anchor them in. I won't be able to shift them as much then, and you'll probably be able to tell better later if I'm fabricating them.
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As scum: RC could be scum.
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Post Post #3809 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:08 pm

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i think i'm back to thinking brie is town
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Post Post #3810 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:12 pm

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Brie are you still around?
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Post Post #3811 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:16 pm

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ugh now i think that SS could be scum

why is mafia like this
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Post Post #3812 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:17 pm

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i even acutely know ahead of time that this waffling is going to get wolfread but i can't do anything about it cuz like

fuuck

ss questioned basically every inclusion in the locktown pool (taly, nd, etc) then tried to get him(her?)self hitched with moment
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Post Post #3813 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:18 pm

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RC let's just get through pre-dance and then try to mindmeld in our PT during first dance

I think no matter what pairings we have, something's going to be iffy about it
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Post Post #3814 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:20 pm

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In post 2494, Something_Smart wrote:I sincerely doubt that Taly is obvtown.
In post 2503, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2496, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2494, Something_Smart wrote:I sincerely doubt that Taly is obvtown.
Your slot is one of the scummiest so
Point being? Doesn't make my statement any less true.

I've only read the posts of Taly since I replaced in. But in my experience, he plays very similarly as both alignments.
In post 2915, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2904, Taly wrote:
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, do you believe
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Statistically speaking it's probably not scum-scum. Krazy doesn't seem easy to read so I don't really think I'm qualified to read there.
Better yet, if you believe
Krazy
IS pocketing me, then how do you think pairs should go?
I'm fine with you pairing with Krazy as long as you think you'd eventually be able to see through his pocketing, because by definition as long as he is alive you will also be alive to catch him and leave on him.

If you wouldn't feel comfortable reading him, there don't seem to be any other townread gentlemen left. Probably pick one that you at least have a decent idea is town and think you can read pretty well, and then regardless of what other people say if you end up townreading him you won't be lynched.
Who do YOU want to pair with?
First of all, not someone who's overtly scumreading me, for instance even if Allo offered I'd refuse because if town he'd probably just leave immediately.

However, I do want to pair with someone who is a pretty easy lynch (though not necessarily widely scumread), because that seems to be how my slot is treated. (I still have the feeling that this is mostly because I'm the only replacement... discrimination :o ) That way, if we do end up getting mislynched at least two question marks will be removed at once, and if the person I pick turns out to be scum we get to see scum squirm to try to keep us alive for as long as possible.
In post 2905, Dannflor wrote:I don't see a scenario where scum would *want* a scum/scum pairing unless they were forced into it.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. If two scum are confident in their ability to make it far, a scum-scum pairing allows scum to win with a town-town pairing still alive, which could be a huge boon.
In post 2912, Dannflor wrote:@S_S, you've been in the game a fair bit now that I think you should have been able to form some reads based on what you've seen so far. You don't have to be explicitly detailed or super confident, I just want to hear your thoughts on the players who've made the most impression on you. Your ISO is a lot of fluff, useless questioning, and a little bit of setup spec. I need to see something more concrete.
Sure. Bear in mind that my reads are still nebulous. I can make them look concrete, but don't expect me to stick to them.
Townreads are, in playerlist order, RC, Allo, Worm, Vedith, Ank, Taly.
Nulltowns are Moment, Thomas, Pink.

is a post I randomly came across while looking through stuff. Noting it here because it is the source of both my Allo and my Vedith townreads.
like the entire dann/nancy pair is excluded
taly/krazy is included... but i'm not even sure that krazy is villa so locktowning them becomes pretty convenient

ack
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Post Post #3815 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:21 pm

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sure krazy and ss were flinging shit at each other but in a setup like this only the towniest slot matters so why not cross bus and try to get 1/2 into the position of most townread slot
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Post Post #3816 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:59 pm

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In post 3811, RadiantCowbells wrote:ugh now i think that SS could be scum

why is mafia like this
In post 3812, RadiantCowbells wrote:i even acutely know ahead of time that this waffling is going to get wolfread but i can't do anything about it cuz like

fuuck

ss questioned basically every inclusion in the locktown pool (taly, nd, etc) then tried to get him(her?)self hitched with moment
I'll be nice and not wolf read you for that. In recent experience I've seen some of the worst misreads, and it's left be deeply paranoid of my own gut, and kinda appreciative of people who aren't dogmatically certain of everything. That said, I'm still going to be paranoid that you are actually a wolf. You and everyone. But seriously, I'll try to trust myself and people. it'll be better when we have something concrete to go off.

One thing that could be said on SS's behalf is that she hasn't accepted Moment yet, even though she had the opportunity.
Now I'm pretty sure I currently can't accept Moment.

Oh, and Moment, if you read this, did you ever answer my question about Allomancer?
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Post Post #3817 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:13 pm

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As far as I'm aware you're still able to accept him if you choose to.
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Post Post #3818 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:43 pm

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In post 3796, RadiantCowbells wrote:NO SON OF MINE IS BRINGING AN AUSSIE GIRL HOME MOMENT
I really should be insulted by this. What's wrong with Aussie girls?
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Post Post #3819 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:46 pm

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Well if I can...

Moment, I would be honoured to dance with you.


@Mod, is a gentleman ask one lady, then a second lady, can the first lady still accept? The offer wasn't withdrawn in this situation.
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Post Post #3820 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:47 pm

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In post 3818, TheBrie wrote:
In post 3796, RadiantCowbells wrote:NO SON OF MINE IS BRINGING AN AUSSIE GIRL HOME MOMENT
I really should be insulted by this. What's wrong with Aussie girls?
they are bad girls.
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Post Post #3821 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:49 pm

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why is the aussie accent hot on guys but not girls?
serious question.
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Post Post #3822 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:58 pm

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I'm a good girl. Also I've had people at events on my home town/city ask whee I'm from because they thought I had an accent from elsewhere.

I prefer Scottish and Irish accents. I can even remember a situation where I found a Scottish guy easier to understand than some of the Australian guys around. True country guys who work with sheep and all that. I'm not around that accent a lot.
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Post Post #3823 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:07 pm

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Scottish accent in general is gr8. perfect 10/10. So pleasant to the ears.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3824 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:24 pm

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In post 3823, Firebringer wrote:Scottish accent in general is gr8. perfect 10/10. So pleasant to the ears.
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