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Frozen Angel · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:44 am

Vote Count 1.10

TemporalLich (4): Skellen, u r a person 2, Emperor flippyNips, teacher

[L-1]
CatStar (1): good
good (1): CatStar
Emperor flippyNips (1): roomy
Skellen (1): TemporalLich

Not Voting (1): Clemency

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-02-18 11:05:00)

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Clemency · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:53 am

i love how the only thing in my vote change log is an unvote

roomy · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:22 am

like I feel like I’ve said before, I’m not super opposed to a TempralLynch for a lot of the reasons teacher mentioned; if anything his flip will certainly be informative. I still think nips is more likely to flip scum but with two days left I don’t think it’s worth going all out for him today.

again on mobile today/generally will be a little slow this weekend, I have some old friends coming to stay with me. apologies in advance

Clemency · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:52 am

temporallynch is catching on
bingpot

good · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:07 am

In post 247, teacher wrote:Yes, but the wagons were tied, and Birdy offered a defense of one while pushing the other. It simply felt like a possible partner play at the time.

To be clear, associational data is indeed weak pre-flip - that is part of why I didnt vote or make a case on your slot. But I am intrigued that you jumped right onto the associational point while ignoring all the other aspects of the case on Lich. Worried he might flip red?

no i agree on the lich case
i just want my slot cleared

good · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:09 am

In post 248, teacher wrote:
In post 227, good wrote:i'm probably not going to do reads, as im not very good at them. if i find a scum, i'll tell you

In post 236, good wrote:i think nips is lazy town
his meta is to start wagons, and he is doing the exact opposite.
OK, so you gave one read. Right now you've got an inherited vote. Who would YOU vote, and why?

im talking about the lists people make where there is just a bunch of names in brackets
i would lynch lich or roomy

good · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:11 am

how do i vote tag something

teacher · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:31 am

In post 256, good wrote:how do i vote tag something

Dont vote Lich til he has a chance to claim.

Why Roomy?

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ISO · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:54 am

Back to L-1 with intent with a lot of posts... Let me analyze this before I get liched...

good · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:02 am

In post 257, teacher wrote:
In post 256, good wrote:how do i vote tag something
Dont vote Lich til he has a chance to claim.

Why Roomy?

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wan't planning to dont worry
i'll make a case on roomy tommorow since i'm already going to sleep and no access to my laptop
i'm fine with the current lynch anyway

@lich i saw what you did there

ISO · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:22 am

In post 215, CatStar wrote: TL: disagree with their read. Note that their reanalysis came out with the same result not as conceived this is townie. @temporallich: what do you think of the fact most other people are town reading your scum read? What prompted you to go back and re evaluate?

Wanted to get reads that made sense for Town, along with some posts to back up the reads.

In post 223, teacher wrote:So, I want Lich lynched. I'm putting the vote back up and going to make my case.
VOTE: TemporalLich.
This is L-1.

First, we have the obvious, confusing play and some odd wordings. Im not going to belabor this one, since it has been much discussed already.

Second, we have the continued waffling. This hasnt been hit as much. 115 says CatStar's the scummiest, and 117 explains as an active lurker. But 198 moves CatStar to a lean NAI without explanation -- CatStar's rate of posting hadn't increased (about 5% of posts 120-180; about 4% of posts 10-120, with about the same level of interaction).

Third, which is both related and to me most telling, I see no effort to solve at all. At no point does Lich investigate any of his suspects -- I dont see questions directed to CatStar or Skellen. It seems almost as if he knows their alignment, and is seeing what sticks. The lack of desire to solve -- investigate or justify his reads with specific reactions to specific posts just comes across as not towny.

Fourth, and the most compelling point for scum!good, is Birdy's 78. I saw this as a potential partnership play, of accelerating the wagon that was tied with Lich and hopefully redirecting attention to another slot.

Finally, I think we learn the most from flipping Lich. His near-lynch wagon (roomy-skellen-me-Urap-
Clem's intent
) would almost certainly contain one scum if he flips green. This information would force me to reevaluate the townblock I am willing to form to PoE this game with Roomy, Skellen, and URAP.

I conclude by reminding the board this is L-1

Yeah you can put me on the scum radar for being confusing. 198 is after a PbP, which the other two reads sorely lacked. Not sure I can ask much while at L-1 with intent. I don't think Birdy was scummy. Can't really dispute my lich being useful (read: convenient) without sounding super OMGUSy.

In post 234, teacher wrote:
In post 177, TemporalLich wrote:If I die today, then I probably shouldn't play Mafia ever again.
Nooo! That is distinctly NOT the point of newbie games. They are to learn how to play generally, and learn some skills to playing well. Regardless of your alignment, if you are today's lynch you can learn why people suspected you and learn how to avoid it (again, regardless of alignment). Scum-catches and mislynches all happen, the point is to make sure you are having fun and trying to win, not necessarily survive til the end game.

Alright thanks.

In post 242, Clemency wrote:so i guess you could consider this intent
but we still have a bunch of time left to discuss

Welp here's the intent.

In post 252, roomy wrote:like I feel like I’ve said before, I’m not super opposed to a TempralLynch for a lot of the reasons teacher mentioned; if anything his flip will certainly be informative. I still think nips is more likely to flip scum but with two days left I don’t think it’s worth going all out for him today.

again on mobile today/generally will be a little slow this weekend, I have some old friends coming to stay with me. apologies in advance

Same applies to my response to 223

In post 254, good wrote: no i agree on the lich case
i just want my slot cleared

This has got to be the scummiest way to declare intent I've ever seen.

In post 244, teacher wrote:Clem, claim intent explicitly. At this point I dont think those on the wagon will unvote, so Lich should know whether or not he should roleclaim.

I guess it's time for me to declare myself and hope this doesn't get me killed.

I am the VT.

CatStar · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:31 am

@TL if you are town, you win regardless of being dead if town win. I can get you feeling frustrated regardless of alignment, but being at L-1 doesn't mean your thoughts aren't welcome and questions aren't useful.

CatStar · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:58 am

I'm finding teachers initial questions about self meta more interesting now. Specifically, good appearing and saying they are overly aggressive as town then appearing most concerned about 'clearing' their slot than anything else and claiming more wordy and careful as Mafia. Looking forward to their roomy case...

If I were to vote now, it would be TL, but not wanting to end the day. Becoming more convinced they are scummy rather than just new.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:34 am

i approve of hammering

drop it whenever

Clemency · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:02 am

whatever lets see it
i'd like some tangible info this game
VOTE: temporallich

Frozen Angel · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:07 am

Vote Count 1.11 - Final

TemporalLich (5): Skellen, u r a person 2, Emperor flippyNips, teacher, Clemency

[Lynch!]
CatStar (1): good
good (1): CatStar
Emperor flippyNips (1): roomy
Skellen (1): TemporalLich

With 9 players alive it took 5 votes to lynch.

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Frozen Angel · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:11 am

TemporalLich was lynched. They were a

Vanilla Townie

.

Spoiler: TemporalLich

It's now Night 1!

Please submit all your actions before the next day phase. This night phase ends in (expired on 2019-02-17 21:15:00)

Frozen Angel · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:15 am

roomy was killed. They were a

Vanilla Townie

.

Spoiler: roomy

It's now Day 2 !

Vote Count 2.0No one is currently voting

Not Voting (7): Skellen, u r a person 2, Emperor flippyNips, teacher, Clemency, good, CatStar

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2019-02-24 21:15:00)

Clemency · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:22 am

u r a person 2 · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:35 am

spicy nk

pr hunt? Lemme go find their reads

u r a person 2 · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:38 am

Spoiler: roomy reads

Roomy's last few posts were all scum reading Flippy

Prior to that they didn't seem to hot on me

not too much else in the few days worth I went back

u r a person 2 · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:45 am

We should consider a mass claim later today

I want to read through the thread again first, tho

good · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:50 am

im the cop, u r a person 2 is a member of the mafia.
boom bang

good · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:51 am

now let's discuss who their team mate could be

good · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:54 am

VOTE: u r a person 2