Open 749 | Vengecop - Over!

[Vedith]

hm also Creature was one of the people who voted Micc yesterday and was still on him at the end of the day

Might not mean much but I don't remember Creature being super widely town read or anything

Dann Scum actually.
Maybe Draco and Dann.

I'll think.

[RadiantCowbells]

i doubt it's both of them right now

honestly i think it's draco and micc and they're crossvoting but im less sure on micc

[Vedith]

vedith i would have respected the shit out of u if it weren't for the fact u ended up unvoting

I'm not in a rush.

[Draco Lucky]

Micc
Vedith
BBmolla
PP
RC

Would you like to talk about any of these or just like nah?

You think we're scum. Who is our partner? Who are you confident is town?

-U2

[Micc]

I don't have traction on anything tbh.

Heck, I liked the idea of an overkill wagon but wasn't dead set on it. And even if I voted I would have been off it the second Dr Worm indicated they were thinking about hammering. Like what good is a pressure wagon if you hammer the person before they even respond to it? I think that lynch was lucky and that scum are on the wagon.

That said I took the night phase off from thinking about this game and I'm at work now so I haven't sat down and taken a good uninterrupted look at the people on the wagon. Id put a vote down if I felt good about where I'm at but right now I don't

predits: back to work without reading them sorry.

[northsidegal]

Votecount 2.2

Target	Wagon
Micc (2)	Dannflor (345), Draco Lucky (364)
Not Voting (7)	xwing, BBMolla, Dr Worm, PenguinPower, RadiantCowbells, Micc, Vedith (341)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-02-25 20:55:59).

Mod Notes:

xwing is V/LA on weekends.

[Draco Lucky]

i doubt it's both of them right now

honestly i think it's draco and micc and they're crossvoting but im less sure on micc

Who were you talking about in that post? Who is a godfather?
Why are you scum reading us?

-U2

[Vedith]

i doubt it's both of them right now

honestly i think it's draco and micc and they're crossvoting but im less sure on micc

I was wondering if Scum would use Creature voting Micc as reason for Micc Scum.

[Dannflor]

Slaxx and I finally got a chance to compare reads this evening for a couple minutes, so here's where we're at. Apparently I'm in a verbose mood this evening, so I spoiled this monster for your convenience.

Spoiler: Town Reads

Town, in no particular order:
Xwing - Slaxx is reading Xwing town. I've got Xwing as a light town read, but I haven't seen anything super indicative here yet. That read augments a sheep of slaxx on this slot because of his experience with Xwing

Creature - Apparently creature is an easy read, but I don't know the tell yet. Slaxx has creature town.

Micc - We are both reading Micc as town. I shared his reaction in 62. I think his BBmolla is both reasonable and well within an average town range. His read on creature probably makes sense from either alignment if creature is considered an easy read. Slight concern that the town read on us is a pocket attempt given the lack of reasons for either town read. Lynch pool is people playing - let's call it whimsically - and Dannflor which could be a cop out but also isn't a terrible world view given both D1 play and the nature of the setup incentivizing mechanical sorting of non straight forward reads. And I can't argue with his null reads at the time 186 was written, plus the reasoning seems fine in 204.

Vedith - I'm townreading Vedith and Slaxx is null on him. He's a.. whimsical player but I town read his turn around during the setup spec discussion. I town read his reaction test laden play slightly. I town read 208, 211, 220 and 222 Basically every post where he's playing with a more serious demeanor I town read.

Dr. Worm - we both read dr. worm as town. I like 196 and for correcting me on his PP read in 163. I wouldn't take this read to the bank right now, but I do believe that Dr Worm is posting AI-content in spite of his play style and will only become more readable with time.

Spoiler: Dissonance Reads

Dissonance Reads:
We disagree on BBMolla. I see a lot of his play being personality-indicative rather than AI, including his self-vote. (self esteem issues? jk <3 ) That said, I think his entire game so far is within an average scum range when personality is taken into account. This isn't a strong read because I don't think anything is necessarily outside of his town range, but I think this play probably comes from scum!molla more often than it comes from town!molla.
Slaxx disagrees, tho, and has BBmolla as a town read.

Spoiler: Scum Reads

Scum:
0verki11 is the scummiest person in the game right now. Others have shied away from calling his underwhelming wall post scummy, but it's reaally scummy. Announce a wall post and then spend the majority of it on setup spec is pretty meh to begin with. Saying that he's doing it for himself like he's doing his make-up (nothing wrong with that) and then doing it is even worse. And his reasoning for how it was a reminder felt fabricated. That post and his response to me in 172 and 218 are the entirety of the content from this slot. Slaxx agrees this slot is scummy.

PP - Slaxx thinks PP's iso is terrible. I don't see anything that looks like game solving or is in another way town-indicative. And I don't like the evasiveness around my questions.

DT - We're here by POE, lol

Spoiler: Null Reads

Null:
Dannflor: I pushed in our pt, and slaxx is coming around to Dannflor's more recent posts being townie. Slaxx thinks he is overexplaining, but that paper in GD suggests that long sentence structure is town-indicative, and man has some long sentences. Especially if one were to connect sentences that start with "but" to the prior sentence that it really should be a part of. E.g, 176. I feel like an asshole even bringing up this read... but stats. And yes, I know, 176 is a TWTBAW argument, but I think he's like halfway down the path to my read, which is that a lot of molla's play is personality-indicative. We're clearly conflicted about this slot rn.

p.edit guess i don't need to do the vote ;P

Did you miss this post? A good reads list imo that did express strong scum reads, one on Overkill before he was hammered. He seems pretty confident in scum!overkill here, so I don't get your point.

Although Draco, reading this back, how did you guys progress from Micc as a pretty strong town so who you want to push today? Why not PP since he was your guys' second scum read?

[Vedith]

Would you like to talk about any of these or just like nah?

You think we're scum. Who is our partner? Who are you confident is town?

-U2

Sure.
For a start, why is RC Scum? Keeping in mind you obviously spoke about it during the night. You came to the conclusion that a spot that hasn't posted isn't town.

I'm confident that Molla is town.

[Dannflor]

I was wondering if Scum would use Creature voting Micc as reason for Micc Scum.

don't think it's a strong reason

missed that Creature was down on Draco, that's a good point, Creature didn't do a bunch else

[Dannflor]

I'm confident that Molla is town.

something I actually agree with Vedith on

[Draco Lucky]

Although Draco, reading this back, how did you guys progress from Micc as a pretty strong town so who you want to push today? Why not PP since he was your guys' second scum read?

we worked pretty hard on a VCA over the night phase and used it to augment our reads. I'll put together something on our Micc progression.
-U2

[Dannflor]

i doubt it's both of them right now

honestly i think it's draco and micc and they're crossvoting but im less sure on micc

Was Draco your super confident scum read? Why?

[Draco Lucky]

Would you like to talk about any of these or just like nah?

You think we're scum. Who is our partner? Who are you confident is town?

-U2

Sure.
For a start, why is RC Scum? Keeping in mind you obviously spoke about it during the night. You came to the conclusion that a spot that hasn't posted isn't town.

I'm confident that Molla is town.

We have RC in our PoE, and frankly it would be absurd to not have the 0 post count slot in a poe. We've had him as possible scum by poe since like my first reads list. Not sure why there is confusion here. Are you town reading RC?

-U2

[Vedith]

don't think it's a strong reason

missed that Creature was down on Draco, that's a good point, Creature didn't do a bunch else

If Creature doubted both Micc and Draco and both are Scum the actually RC could be onto something.
I'd lynch Draco over Micc atm though

[Vedith]

I'm confident that Molla is town.

something I actually agree with Vedith on

\o/

[RadiantCowbells]

i doubt it's both of them right now

honestly i think it's draco and micc and they're crossvoting but im less sure on micc

Was Draco your super confident scum read? Why?

yes

[PenguinPower]

RC, I would like your thoughts on rainbow reads in general.

I would also like to know if you want to be #00FF00 in my rainbow reads.

[Vedith]

We have RC in our PoE, and frankly it would be absurd to not have the 0 post count slot in a poe. We've had him as possible scum by poe since like my first reads list. Not sure why there is confusion here. Are you town reading RC?

It's more of a laughing matter.
So explain to me on all of the town reads. Since you have spent time discussing this.
Did you both agree with each others reads?

Well I don't dislike what RC is saying. Plus, Scum will have to deal with him sooner than later as town so I'm not worried.

[Vedith]

RC, I would like your thoughts on rainbow reads in general.

I would also like to know if you want to be #00FF00 in my rainbow reads.

PP we should do them at the same time.
But tomorrow as I had doing it via phone!

[PenguinPower]

PP we should do them at the same time.
But tomorrow as I had doing it via phone!

I'm up for that. I actually have reads now so next one will be for serious.

[RadiantCowbells]

RC, I would like your thoughts on rainbow reads in general.

I would also like to know if you want to be #00FF00 in my rainbow reads.

i just watched al neri shoot fredo

[PenguinPower]

Over the night Slaxx and I came up with this poe

Micc
Vedith
BBmolla
PP
RC

This is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad poe list.

[northsidegal]

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