Newbie 1917 - Game Over

[Micc]

Votecount 1.07

chennisden (3) -

TTTT, NotMySpamAccount, EchoVision

Thespio (1) -

GuiltyLion

GuiltyLion (1) -

Thespio

Not Voting (4) -

CsBlastoise, Screamingnoodle, chennisden, u r a person 2

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-02-24 11:15:00).

[TTTT]

@TTTT and @GL how are you guys feeling rn

a bit gassy
I ate a big slice of cheesecake last night
without considering how much dairy is in it

[EchoVision]

so like this is kinda bold but do scum have daychat ? i think they do in all newbies but honestly idrk

anyways the reason chen is “waiting” for whatever and not doing too much while he was on L-1 could mean he’s waiting for someone to tell him what to do in daychat ???
ik it’s bold and it’s a reach but yknow why not ?
so if that’s true then we most likely have an inactive SE as partner but idrk it’s not like i’m gonna hunt or anything i’m just writing my ideas down

[chennisden]

I have the same question. Does scum have daychat?

[chennisden]

I don't know about anyone else, but the start of this just seems scummy for some reason. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth, can't tell why. Can anyone explain the last sentence? I can't quite understand what it means, it seems disconnected if you know what I mean. Also, sorry for the inactivity.

wow i am having serious deja vu here rn

we're just going to do this until i have more time to look at this game UNVOTE:

^town

[u r a person 2]

so like this is kinda bold but do scum have daychat ?

I have the same question. Does scum have daychat?

yeah do they?

Mafia have access to their Private Topic at all times.

These are called dumb-tells, boys and girls. Here, Echo and Chenn present as not having enough information to possibly be scum. It's super easy to fake, and almost always the information is available in the first few posts.

Carry on! =)

[EchoVision]

so like this is kinda bold but do scum have daychat ?

I have the same question. Does scum have daychat?

yeah do they?

Mafia have access to their Private Topic at all times.

These are called dumb-tells, boys and girls. Here, Echo and Chenn present as not having enough information to possibly be scum. It's super easy to fake, and almost always the information is available in the first few posts.

Carry on! =)

yeah i just simply didn't care enough to go back and check bc there's too many words on the first few posts

also the only reason chen thinks your unvote is town is bc it was an unvote on him

[EchoVision]

chen why don't you have your vote anywhere right now? why are you so concerned with defending yourself that you're not pressuring anyone to the point of not voting them? you've made it super clear that you

have

scum reads, so why not vote them?

[chennisden]

Answers to above:

1. I only had one scumread when I posted my reads list. I've changed my mind on Spam and think his posts seem scummy rather than NAI now, but that wasn't >1 read before.

2. 1 vote will do nothing

But since you asked so nicely,

VOTE: NotMySpamAccount

[chennisden]

@urap this is my first game onsite, irl has no daychat so I didn't even think about it and forgot

[u r a person 2]

Answers to above:

1. I only had one scumread when I posted my reads list. I've changed my mind on Spam and think his posts seem scummy rather than NAI now, but that wasn't >1 read before.

2. 1 vote will do nothing

But since you asked so nicely,

VOTE: NotMySpamAccount

This is basically the question im pondering

Chenn presents as very scummy to me

So does NMSA, tbh. I buy that NMSA improves his tone as scum. And I also buy that scum!NMSA tries this whole lurk/sheep bit

But like, they're not cross voting each other as scum partners d1, right?

So who is the lynch bait? That's the question.

[NotMySpamAccount]

I have the same question. Does scum have daychat?

This is scum change my mind. The EchoVision version at least sounded a little towny to me, but chen is scum.

1 vote will do nothing

Lies.

[chennisden]

NMSA is trying not to look VI while giving no real information.

He tried the VI tactic last time as scum and it didn't work - of course he's not gonna try it again. His Sheeping is an easy way to "contribute" without contributing.

NMSA, I'll read through your ISO and ask for some explanations.

[chennisden]

oh NMSA is probably town, too. Let's call it town lean because he's a smart guy and could probably improve dramatically from game 1 to game 2. i'll look more into that idea later

Not even done reading through the thread after my crazy workload from today but )))))) also town!TTTT plus town!urap2 means an almost certain town win, and I'm reading them both that way (they're both playing the exact same way they did in 1915), so town chances don't look bad even if I'm forced to lurk all game from meatworld responsibilities.

Hi, my school blocks Mafia and I had to sleep, so I wasn't on for a while.

I will read through and give thoughts.

It's stupid as all heck, but seriously, greeting the thread (esp in first posts, but later too I bet) comes from newb!scum way way more often than from newb!town

I agree here, it's basically how they caught me in 1915, which (to forestall argument) I will continue to cite constantly all game, since it's my only experience on here.

No time to respond to everything rn, but if I'm forced to continue lurking, I'm going to sheep urap and TTTT unless one flips scum, since my reads so far pretty much line up. Thus, VOTE: chennisden

why are you not taking responsibility for your reads? when i flip green you're gonna blame TTTT/Urap for pushing me

and if either of them flips red you don't have to take any responsibility for a bad push

[chennisden]

, I'm going to sheep urap and TTTT unless one flips scum, since my reads so far pretty much line up.

Sheeping this early into the game, when there are people not posting. this ladies and gentlemen is called a scum tell.

Not scum, just crazy busy irl because of tests and other stuff, plus I trust those two to find scum cause I have nothing else to go on besides a scumlean on chennisden.

aside from the "obvscum," he doesn't want to share his other reads. this is because he doesnt want us to be able to tie him to his scumbuddy (see association analysis)

while still pushing for the easiest mislynch

[chennisden]

woah thats a short ISO

and its already really scummy

@NSMA can you explain why this is town? Can you give some reads? Your lack of participation seems scummy IMO, are you trying the polar opposite of the "overeager VI" persona?

@people on my wagon Can we please pressure NMSA to get some more info?

[EchoVision]

, I'm going to sheep urap and TTTT unless one flips scum, since my reads so far pretty much line up.

Sheeping this early into the game, when there are people not posting. this ladies and gentlemen is called a scum tell.

Not scum, just crazy busy irl because of tests and other stuff, plus I trust those two to find scum cause I have nothing else to go on besides a scumlean on chennisden.

aside from the "obvscum," he doesn't want to share his other reads. this is because he doesnt want us to be able to tie him to his scumbuddy (see association analysis)

while still pushing for the easiest mislynch

why don't you just simply ask him for his other reads? you're expecting him to just come out and say "these are all my reads" which is unfair to expect from him when nobody else has done such

therefore, NMSA, would you mind sharing any other reads you've got?

[u r a person 2]

@NMSA could you please talk to me about your thoughts on echo?

At least a few sentences, but I'll also take as much as you've got time to give if you want.

[NotMySpamAccount]

what if no newbs rolled scum is my question

Given 4 SE's, that's not a bad chance.

Also friendly reminder NMSA is now EchoVision

4 SE's out of 9 players. Chance of 2 being scum is (4C2*5C0)/9C2 = 6*1/36 = 1/6, so not bad odds, but I wouldn't bet on it, since it's literally a dice roll.

URAP, I got u, textwall incoming.

[chennisden]

NMSA, im very tempted to townread you now since i assume you do/did competition math

you can be my BFF after this game

[NotMySpamAccount]

oh NMSA is probably town, too. Let's call it town lean because he's a smart guy and could probably improve dramatically from game 1 to game 2. i'll look more into that idea later

Not even done reading through the thread after my crazy workload from today but )))))) also town!TTTT plus town!urap2 means an almost certain town win, and I'm reading them both that way (they're both playing the exact same way they did in 1915), so town chances don't look bad even if I'm forced to lurk all game from meatworld responsibilities.

Hi, my school blocks Mafia and I had to sleep, so I wasn't on for a while.

I will read through and give thoughts.

It's stupid as all heck, but seriously, greeting the thread (esp in first posts, but later too I bet) comes from newb!scum way way more often than from newb!town

I agree here, it's basically how they caught me in 1915, which (to forestall argument) I will continue to cite constantly all game, since it's my only experience on here.

No time to respond to everything rn, but if I'm forced to continue lurking, I'm going to sheep urap and TTTT unless one flips scum, since my reads so far pretty much line up. Thus, VOTE: chennisden

why are you not taking responsibility for your reads? when i flip green you're gonna blame TTTT/Urap for pushing me

and if either of them flips red you don't have to take any responsibility for a bad push

You're not going to flip green. And if you want a reads list, here you go.

screamingnoodle: Lurking, mostly oneliners, playing like newbscum I think. Scumlean.
CsBlastoise: Scummy for his opening, improved a bit since then. Scumlean.
Echovision: Not sure what to say here. Maybe town, but that's just a gut read. I wouldn't vote him yet, but he could definitely convince me to.
chennisden: Oh wow, that's a scummy iso. This is how I played my first game. This is scum, folks.
Thespio: Terrible reads, just trying to cover up how scummy he was early. Probably scum.
ur a person 2: Similar to last game, I like this a lot, he was actually the first one pressuring me for more content, so here ya go buddy. Probably town.
TTTT: Playing the same as 1915, I like his reads, most likely town.
GuiltyLion: This iso looks pretty town to me. He's pressuring people for their inconsistencies, and generally just playing like I think a good townie should play. High hopes for GL/URAP/TTTT townbloc now.

2 out of chen, thespio, noodle, and csblastoise are scum (likelihood in order of most to least).

pedit:

NMSA, im very tempted to townread you now since i assume you do/did competition math

you can be my BFF after this game

Townread me if you like, I took the AMC 12 wednesday so ur right about the math. You're scum anyway don't try to buddy me.

[chennisden]

woah ur scumreading a lot of people (fine, I get you reading me, but thats a lot of people)

and i was joking about the townread, in my eyes you are still scum

I took 10B, was planning to do 12B but then decided not to

and ill be your BFF after - read AFTER

and just a thought i wont flip green because i dont think im flipping toDAY.

[chennisden]

speaking of screaming, thespio, GL, where are you guys?

[TTTT]

hmmm...
chennis has a strong scum post here (328 - inconsistent with the amount of pregame prep he did)
and a strong town post (338 - looks naturally townie by way of not knowing my or URAP's alignments)
overall this still seems like a good wagon
But I'm in no hurry to lynch

[Micc]

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