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Post Post #4650 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:43 am

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In post 4631, Pink Ball wrote:@Taly, I haven't done what I listed because I'm still phoneposting and it would take an eternity to do it; it was a reminder for when I get a computer. I'm on my vacations, this is not what I'm planning to do during them. And yes, we have played together in my main.

@Nancy I told Mr. Worm that I will leave the dance if he doesn't start giving me some content 'cause he said there's no time to talk, that we have to vote TheBrie. I can't do more than that.

@Mr. Worm, it seems that we have a lot in common regarding our reads; I understand your gimmick and I really like it, but we have to be respectful with the rest of the playerlist and at least try to sort each other and play as a team. Could you continue with your gimmick but being helpful in our love nest, please?
tbh I think I'm feeling a little better about Dr. Worm.
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Post Post #4651 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:43 am

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In post 4645, Something_Smart wrote:Well if it's a mathematical certainty that scum is in there, it means that it didn't take any scumhunting skill to generate... I could put everyone in the scum tier and say "omg I scumread all the scum!" but it wouldn't mean anything.

Re: Thomas's wall, I don't know yet. I'm trying to get him to talk about that stuff a little more in the PT.
I mean I know your most recent experiences with nancy have been of high activity, but why do you feel like this is not the nancy of excalibur? You shouldn't assume the lack of her getting into a fight with some toxic player is a scumtell dude.

As for me you just overestimate my scum game, but I take it as a compliment so idgaf
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Post Post #4652 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:44 am

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In post 4649, Dr Worm wrote:
In post 4647, Something_Smart wrote:First lynch would probably be Krazy/Taly
TELL WHY using a few small words PLEASE and THAKN YOU!!
He just said why is 4636
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Post Post #4653 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:44 am

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In post 4641, Krazy wrote:
In post 4623, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4617, Dr Worm wrote:VOTE: THEBREAD
Talk about some of your reads?
I mean that was a read gamma lol

He said brie is scum because she's skipping walls. Agree or not that is a read
I wanted more reads than his TheBrie read though.
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Post Post #4654 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:48 am

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In post 4651, Krazy wrote:I mean I know your most recent experiences with nancy have been of high activity, but why do you feel like this is not the nancy of excalibur? You shouldn't assume the lack of her getting into a fight with some toxic player is a scumtell dude.
I don't think I paid attention to a single thing Nancy said in Excalibur while I was alive.

The only thing I remember her doing... was getting in a fight. (After I was dead.)
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Post Post #4655 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:51 am

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In post 4653, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4641, Krazy wrote:
In post 4623, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4617, Dr Worm wrote:VOTE: THEBREAD
Talk about some of your reads?
I mean that was a read gamma lol

He said brie is scum because she's skipping walls. Agree or not that is a read
I wanted more reads than his TheBrie read though.
I have him busy in our love nest, if you know what I mean
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Post Post #4656 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:58 am

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In post 4649, Dr Worm wrote:
In post 4647, Something_Smart wrote:First lynch would probably be Krazy/Taly
TELL WHY using a few small words PLEASE and THAKN YOU!!
He is the most likely deepwolf candidate.
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Post Post #4657 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:07 am

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In post 4654, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4651, Krazy wrote:I mean I know your most recent experiences with nancy have been of high activity, but why do you feel like this is not the nancy of excalibur? You shouldn't assume the lack of her getting into a fight with some toxic player is a scumtell dude.
I don't think I paid attention to a single thing Nancy said in Excalibur while I was alive.

The only thing I remember her doing... was getting in a fight. (After I was dead.)
I guess lol

If there's one thing that bothers me rn it's that she complained about the lack of votes and then didn't put down a vote herself, which is odd because I've never seen her afraid to put down a vote. Doesn't make me scumread her but I don't get why you're so salty just because nancy is widely townread. It doesn't look like you're scum, it's just a question of if your reads hold merit. Saying you forgot the first two thirds of excalibur doesn't help me there because that's why I incorrectly had doubts about her--she did seem more passive there in a way that isn't totally different than her being a bit passive here, which is why I'm not going to scumread her just for the lack of a fight. Her combativeness tends to go with her certainty in her reads and since we don't have a red flip here I don't feel like she's deadlocked on scum yet.

I mean maybe she should be deathtunneled on you because you dared list her as a scumread and I'm pocketed but I have waaaaaaaaaay fewer doubts about my townread of Nancy than you seem to have about DT, who I'm still pretty ok with flipping red
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Post Post #4658 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:11 am

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Like SS what might be redemptive, if I'm right about nancy, is for you to pull a third name out of your null pool so that you do actually have a scumteam. At least then you could say you called 1/3 (fmpov at least)
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Post Post #4659 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:15 am

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In post 4627, Dr Worm wrote:
In post 4624, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I found this interesting. @Worm, why aren’t you responding back to PB?

What happened to “TrueLove4Ever”, pre-dance? I’m asking this because according to PB, you guys aren’t really engaging too much about game talk in your PT. Why is that?
DR WORM said NO READS ALLOWED DURING INTERMISSSIONS!! PINKBELLS said LOL OK!! THEN WE DANCED!!

PINKBELLS hasn"t SAID anything since DANCE TWO start until last NIGHT when DR WORM said maybe LYNCH THEBREADMOMENT but SCARED TOO BOBVIOUS!! PINKBELLS just say 3scum why not ONE OBVIOUS? AND PINKBELLS ask DR WORM who SCUM if THEBREAD is TROWN??

STARTING TO THINK PINKBELLS is NOT TRUE LOVE!! :cry:
Why can’t scum be obvious though? I may of course be biased here but I saw scum!sheep as open wolfing in MBoS? But I do think it’s townie of you not to jump at the lhf.
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Post Post #4660 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:17 am

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I guess I can ask -- nancy where are you voting?
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Post Post #4661 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:18 am

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In post 4629, Dr Worm wrote:WHO WANTS DR WORM to WALK OUT??
After Vedith/Fire, I don’t think anyone ought to do anything rash.
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Post Post #4662 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:20 am

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Damn I'm feeling better about my main theory on pb and now I feel like even more of a dick for leaving like I did last game

Meh
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Post Post #4663 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:24 am

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In post 4630, Taly wrote:
S_S
, can you explain your scumreads?

I glimpsed at
DT's
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But here's a few things I'm wondering about.
In post 4081, DoubtingThomas wrote:also i town read RC. I think RC's town ability is considerably good. i have no meta of you nor gamma. iirc, he hard town read you and said gamma was being worthless.

i am also ok sheeping that sentiment.

even if RC is wolf, i think he treats you and gamma like that if you are town. i really liked the way RC favored you over thebrie. tonally felt like a genuine town read, or something i dont know if wolves wanna do over their wolf packmate!gamma
In post 4253, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4245, Pink Ball wrote:Point is, RC is more valuable alive than dead
even when he's a wolf? :doge:
Why are you stating
RC
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I don't feel good that
S_S
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RC's
reads higher than his own and you haven't pushed against that - all the while you're giving a mixed read on
RC
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In post 4307, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 4305, Gamma Emerald wrote:That does help me with not having to sort my partner, now I can just jam out reads
bad post is bad
Urist
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Gamma
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These inconsistencies don't feel genuine. I'm leaning to
DT+S_S
contain scum somewhere.

As for
PB+Dr. W
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Could be. I liked DT initially, then my read on him, dropped. I wish he’d post something in the PT. That is also what’s concerning me about moment except why does DT post here but not in his PT with SS?
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Post Post #4664 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:24 am

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In post 4658, Krazy wrote:Like SS what might be redemptive, if I'm right about nancy, is for you to pull a third name out of your null pool so that you do actually have a scumteam. At least then you could say you called 1/3 (fmpov at least)
See this is the kind of thing that makes me scumread you. It doesn't help anyone. You're just trying to make a person who's already wrong (from your town POV) become more confident in his bad reads.

As scum I can see you doing this to make it look like you're working with me. But you're not really doing anything productive as town.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #4665 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:25 am

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In post 4657, Krazy wrote:I don't get why you're so salty just because nancy is widely townread.
I'm not, I think it's likely that she's town even though I myself don't see why.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #4666 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:26 am

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In post 4664, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4658, Krazy wrote:Like SS what might be redemptive, if I'm right about nancy, is for you to pull a third name out of your null pool so that you do actually have a scumteam. At least then you could say you called 1/3 (fmpov at least)
See this is the kind of thing that makes me scumread you. It doesn't help anyone. You're just trying to make a person who's already wrong (from your town POV) become more confident in his bad reads.

As scum I can see you doing this to make it look like you're working with me. But you're not really doing anything productive as town.
How is asking you to sort your null pool bad for town?

You took half the playerlist and said "no read" -- what is town supposed to do with those names if you flip green?
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Post Post #4667 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:28 am

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Ignore my reads like they should do anyway...
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Post Post #4668 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:29 am

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Those people are in the null pool for a reason. Not because I haven't felt like sorting them. Because I don't consider myself capable of it.
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Post Post #4669 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:30 am

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In post 4631, Pink Ball wrote:@Taly, I haven't done what I listed because I'm still phoneposting and it would take an eternity to do it; it was a reminder for when I get a computer. I'm on my vacations, this is not what I'm planning to do during them. And yes, we have played together in my main.

@Nancy I told Mr. Worm that I will leave the dance if he doesn't start giving me some content 'cause he said there's no time to talk, that we have to vote TheBrie. I can't do more than that.

@Mr. Worm, it seems that we have a lot in common regarding our reads; I understand your gimmick and I really like it, but we have to be respectful with the rest of the playerlist and at least try to sort each other and play as a team. Could you continue with your gimmick but being helpful in our love nest, please?
While I definitely have some paranoia about Brie, I don’t see why she is being viewed as the scummiest player by you guys and Gamma?

I differ from Dann in that although I agreed with a lot of RC’s reads, RC wasn’t psychic and couldn’t have forseen moment not posting for 3 days post intermission, 5 days total. I was hardtownreading him prior to that.
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Post Post #4670 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:31 am

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I mean, I've already said Thomas was nulltown. I'm trusting RC on Dann and Brie, so if I were to drop anyone it'd be Gamma... but any read on Gamma will get drowned out by IC WIFOM.
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Post Post #4671 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:31 am

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In post 4664, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4658, Krazy wrote:Like SS what might be redemptive, if I'm right about nancy, is for you to pull a third name out of your null pool so that you do actually have a scumteam. At least then you could say you called 1/3 (fmpov at least)
See this is the kind of thing that makes me scumread you. It doesn't help anyone. You're just trying to make a person who's already wrong (from your town POV) become more confident in his bad reads.

As scum I can see you doing this to make it look like you're working with me. But you're not really doing anything productive as town.
Like I feel the opposite.

Right now you give the impression of being a bit tunneled on me, I guess because you think the pressure I put on you predance was scummy... But that pressure helped me sort you. Like I want to see if you start critically evaluating your nulls whether you can solve better. Maybe we are having a playstyle clash though. If you don't want to, don't.

Pedit: ok nvm then
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Post Post #4672 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:33 am

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In post 4635, Taly wrote:Final thought

Also, I don't think I want a
Moment+TheBrie
lynch right now at all.

I want to reread
Moment
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TheBrie
is town.

So killing off a sorting+townread is not a good decision. :P

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Post Post #4673 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:33 am

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We might have a playstyle clash in that you're not used to meeting someone who suffers from UNDERconfidence, but that's understandable.
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Post Post #4674 (ISO) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:34 am

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In post 4670, Something_Smart wrote:I mean, I've already said Thomas was nulltown. I'm trusting RC on Dann and Brie, so if I were to drop anyone it'd be Gamma... but any read on Gamma will get drowned out by IC WIFOM.
Not really... Gamma isn't getting lynched first for sure. That doesn't mean we don't need to make a choice about her literally in the next 5 days.
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