Open 749 | Vengecop - Over!

[northsidegal]

Votecount 2.13

Target	Wagon
Micc (3)	Dannflor (345), Draco Lucky (364), BBMolla (482)
Draco Lucky (2)	Vedith (487), PenguinPower (605)
Vedith (1)	Dr Worm (416)
Dr Worm (1)	RadiantCowbells (514)
BBMolla (1)	xwing (606)
Not Voting (1)	Micc

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-02-25 20:55:59).

Mod Notes:

xwing is V/LA on weekends.

[Dannflor]

Dr Worm what are your reads on players not named Vedith?

MY BRAIN JUST TOLD ME XWANG IS TROWN!!
PONGYPOWER still TROWN!!
BBMOOLA TROWN!!
HEART says DRACO TROWN but BRAIN not sure!! same with DANNFLO!!

PROBLEM is my HEART says ALL lynch wagon is TROWN!! TOO MUCH TROWN!!

What do you think of the Micc and Draco wagons? You haven't commented on them at all

[Dannflor]

I'm not sure why Town would get worried about being lynched this early with the setup.
Draco seems more worried about being lynched imo and that's scummy.

Maybe? I personally feel like Draco's done a lot today that people are just dismissing. A lot of the times when I see scum attacked they go full defensive mode but forget that they're also supposed to be scum hunting and finding who is town. Town will defend themselves of course but also still be trying to sort and progress the game even if they are going to die.

Some of Draco's AtE is icky but I'm not convinced it's not just frustrated town and he still seems intent on solving the game regardless of the amount of pressure on him

I'm also not seeing the discussion between Slaxx and U2 in #504 as faked

[Vedith]

I personally feel like Draco's done a lot today that people are just dismissing

I'm not dismissing anything.
Also, AtE is always NAI.

[Draco Lucky]

Has anyone ever done any work to look into whether town misses self-imposed deadlines more often than scum? or the other way around? If someone knows of a MD thread or something, that would be sweet.

-U2

[Vedith]

I do it a lot more as Scum than town. I've probably seen it by Scum more than town too.
But I personally think it's down to a player situation.

Best thing to do is check the person who you believe to be doing it as scum or town for their games and see if they do.
Unless you're not really that interested in knowing.

[Draco Lucky]

I'm more interested in site-wide stats. Unless someone has a lot of scum games, individual meta for a question like this is akin to saying "All indians walk in a straight line - at least the one I saw did!" There simply isn't enough data for statistically significant conclusions on questions unrelated to tone, word choice, etc. This is my opinion, anyway, and I'm not really looking to debate it here. I'm just giving you my thought process since you preemptively shaded me. =/

If an examination of a thousand games showed that this came from scum at, say, a 60% clip, that could be used as a lightly weighted data point.

I asked because I couldn't find anything through the search, and figured some of you guys that had been here a while might have remembered seeing something.

Thank you for taking the time to answer, regardless!
-U2

[Dr Worm]

Dr Worm what are your reads on players not named Vedith?

MY BRAIN JUST TOLD ME XWANG IS TROWN!!
PONGYPOWER still TROWN!!
BBMOOLA TROWN!!
HEART says DRACO TROWN but BRAIN not sure!! same with DANNFLO!!

PROBLEM is my HEART says ALL lynch wagon is TROWN!! TOO MUCH TROWN!!

What do you think of the Micc and Draco wagons? You haven't commented on them at all

I said DRACO is TOWNLEANER right up there^^

MICC in SCUMPOOL from ELIMINATIONS!!

[xwing]

Has anyone ever done any work to look into whether town misses self-imposed deadlines more often than scum? or the other way around? If someone knows of a MD thread or something, that would be sweet.

-U2

fwiw, it's scum who usually miss self-imposed deadlines in my completed games..
it's a bit hard to use as AI though coz they can say something in line with having RL issues which we have no way of verifying, and will often make people feel sympathetic to them..

[RadiantCowbells]

ime regarding myself i miss self imposed deadlines a lot as town but not as scum.

I suspect the correct play here is to post my theory about who the scum are, which isn't micc, and then lynch Micc anyway.

If he's villa he can vengecop one of them and if not well I guess I Was wrong.

[Draco Lucky]

I mean, if you've got a compelling case for other slots, let's do it.

I'm hard pressed to reevaluate micc without that input, though.
-U2

[Dannflor]

I mean, if you've got a compelling case for other slots, let's do it.

I'm hard pressed to reevaluate micc without that input, though.
-U2

[Draco Lucky]

ime regarding myself i miss self imposed deadlines a lot as town but not as scum.

I suspect the correct play here is to post my theory about who the scum are, which isn't micc, and then lynch Micc anyway.

If he's villa he can vengecop one of them and if not well I guess I Was wrong.

Hell yes. Now this actually makes sense.

It’s WIFOM to say this but I think the best move is to target us with the investigation if Micc flips town.

-Slaxx

[RadiantCowbells]

no

its not

[Draco Lucky]

Why? We are a super polarizing figure and it will get worse if Micc does flip town.

PP/Vedith/You(?) suspect us and

Xwing/Worm/Dann don’t. We are already today’s counterwagon so Micc flipping town probably means it’s us tomorrow. Why not streamline that and either get us killed or get our flip?

[xwing]

gut is really telling me draco is town..
anyway RC, that's assuming micc's town, and that he would be active to choose a target..
i "third" the motion to hear your case..

[Draco Lucky]

I fourth just casing out your suspects, even though I’m part of the head.

I don’t want to wait until Thur or Friday because I’ll be out of town and then not have time to pore over it.

[Draco Lucky]

Part of the hydra*

I am the full head

[RadiantCowbells]

there is no other people's reads

there is only RC

[RadiantCowbells]

alright this was a game.

gonna end it now.

[RadiantCowbells]

let's get a page

[RadiantCowbells]

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