Open 748: Jungle Republic - Over!

[Almost50]

Also @A50:
If we follow your plan and NL, and the NK is a VT, you want to lynch Bambi tomorrow? Meaning they get another NK?

Can you see how your plan probably makes it muuuuuch more beneficial for Wolves?

No. If the kill hits a townie I won't be lynching Bambi tomorrow. It is the WEREWOLVES JOB to shoot the Mafia in this case. I'm not siding by either of them.

[Almost50]

If they shoot YOU though, and you flip MAFIA, I might think about helping them lynch Bambi next, because it does benefit the TOWN numbers-wise. (We start the day with a 5-2-2 assuming they shoot Mafia, and then a lynch on Mafia takes us down to 5-1-2, so we are guaranteed to still be a majority next day)

[Auro]

Depending on the NK we can decide whether we want to lynch Bambi tomorrow.

What did this refer to?

[Auro]

Um, okay. The fault with your argument is that it's a stupid majority because it's equivalent to a 6-2 mountainous which is massively beneficial for Wolves who still retain the NK.

[Vedith]

Let's just do a lynch!
If a VT is lynched WW are forced to shoot Bambi anyway.

[Auro]

And when I'm revealed town, then you'd say you want to lynch a wolf specifically and not mafia?

[Vedith]

Huh?

[Auro]

Directed to A50. He was saying on a Maf NK lynch Bambi, and on VT NK wolfhunt. The former, less likely but lynching Bambi then gives Wolves a huge benefit; latter more likely but puts us in the same state as today with one less villager.

[Auro]

Directed to A50. He was saying on a Maf NK lynch Bambi, and on VT NK wolfhunt. The former, less likely but lynching Bambi then gives Wolves a huge benefit; latter more likely but puts us in the same state as today with one less villager.

The benefit of NL to Wolves is >>> the benefit to town or Mafia. A50 even admits it's optimal for wolves.

[Auro]

The "you" was directed @TOWN, not claimed scum.

Let's just do a lynch!
If a VT is lynched WW are forced to shoot Bambi anyway.

So what about now? Or is Bambi+Auro+Vedith the Mafia team?

[Almost50]

Let's just do a lynch!
If a VT is lynched WW are forced to shoot Bambi anyway.

This is WRONG, but I'll do it if the TOWN say so.

VOTE: mcqueen

[brassherald]

1- Avoiding Bambi (a claimed Mafia if we choose to believe that). The fact that he is excluding Bambi from being a WW and accepting his claim as Mafia is reason enough to think they're both Mafia.

There's ONLY ONE other possibility, which is Bambi+Auro IS the WW team, but I don't see that as probable, because Bambi is a much better player than to do this and expose the whole team. I thus believe him to be Mafia indeed, and Auro is certainly on his team.

Isn't this you doing the same thing you are saying he's doing?

A50, can I get your response to this, please.

[Almost50]

Note that there are TWO Mafia on the wagon (Bambi + Auro) so mcqueen is either Town or WW

[Bambi Jay]

All is going according to plan. And by that, I mean absolutely no plan.

Welcome too Anarchy babies! Population: Soon to be 8.

[brassherald]

All is going according to plan. And by that, I mean absolutely no plan.

Welcome too Anarchy babies! Population: Soon to be 8.

Is the town named Anarchy, and you are calling us all baby, or is the town called Anarchy babies?

[Auro]

Don't hammer - we need McQueen to claim first btw.

Also I want BuJ to weigh in, I'm ready to change my mind if he also thinks NL is the best.

[Almost50]

1- Avoiding Bambi (a claimed Mafia if we choose to believe that). The fact that he is excluding Bambi from being a WW and accepting his claim as Mafia is reason enough to think they're both Mafia.

There's ONLY ONE other possibility, which is Bambi+Auro IS the WW team, but I don't see that as probable, because Bambi is a much better player than to do this and expose the whole team. I thus believe him to be Mafia indeed, and Auro is certainly on his team.

Isn't this you doing the same thing you are saying he's doing?

A50, can I get your response to this, please.

No. I am explicitly advocating a NO LYNCH, GDI. He is PUSHING FOR A LYNCH, yet not wanting to consider Bambi as a WW, thus KNOWS Bambi to be MAFIA

[brassherald]

1- Avoiding Bambi (a claimed Mafia if we choose to believe that). The fact that he is excluding Bambi from being a WW and accepting his claim as Mafia is reason enough to think they're both Mafia.

There's ONLY ONE other possibility, which is Bambi+Auro IS the WW team, but I don't see that as probable, because Bambi is a much better player than to do this and expose the whole team. I thus believe him to be Mafia indeed, and Auro is certainly on his team.

Isn't this you doing the same thing you are saying he's doing?

A50, can I get your response to this, please.

No. I am explicitly advocating a NO LYNCH, GDI. He is PUSHING FOR A LYNCH, yet not wanting to consider Bambi as a WW, thus KNOWS Bambi to be MAFIA

Okay.

[Vedith]

Don't hammer - we need McQueen to claim first btw.

Claiming is stupid in this setup.
We lynch the target we choose.

[Auro]

Bad logic. I don't care for Bambi, I'm 100% lynching that slot anyway - but it's most probable it's a legit claim, and I'm using that only to weigh my chances at a wolf Lynch. Even if Jay is wolf, there's one other - and I believe McQueen has high enough scum equity for that.

[Bambi Jay]

Yeah, claiming Seer is the optimal Scum strat. But I didn't wanna be boring so I wasnt claiming that.

[Almost50]

Don't hammer - we need McQueen to claim first btw.

Yes, we absolutely need mcqueen to claim VT (regardless of his true alignment) so we lynch him, or claim Seer and have the WWs shoot him tonight instead while we lynch another player. Sure. That's NOT a mafia-motivated line of thought at all.

[Auro]

Don't hammer - we need McQueen to claim first btw.

Claiming is stupid in this setup.
We lynch the target we choose.

Uh, no - **if** McQueen claims seer we're definitely not lynching him.

[Auro]

Don't hammer - we need McQueen to claim first btw.

Yes, we absolutely need mcqueen to claim VT (regardless of his true alignment) so we lynch him, or claim Seer and have the WWs shoot him tonight instead while we lynch another player. Sure. That's NOT a mafia-motivated line of thought at all.

No, I would no-lynch then.

[Almost50]

Don't hammer - we need McQueen to claim first btw.

Claiming is stupid in this setup.
We lynch the target we choose.

^^ THIS is why Vedith is TOWN