Newbie 1917 - Game Over

[Micc]

CsBlastoise has been killed Night 1. He was a

Town Cop

.

It is now Day 2.

Votecount 2.00

Not Voting (7) -

NotMySpamAccount, Screamingnoodle, EchoVision, Thespio, u r a person 2, TTTT, GuiltyLion

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-02-27 21:30:00).

[u r a person 2]

interesting choice of nk

VOTE: Thespio

[GuiltyLion]

yeah that kill doesn't make a lot of sense to me, did CsBlastoise drop any PR hints anywhere? cause if he did I totally missed them. maybe scum just figured he was spewed town by that chendennis post.

I still feel Thespio's just kinda obvscum partner, but I'm gonna wait to case it in case anyone needs convincing

[GuiltyLion]

assuming Thespio is town, who else could scum mislynch to win this game? NMSA/TTTT/URAP2 feel like extremely difficult mislynches given their interactions around chen on D1. also, with respect to URAP2/TTTT, frankly I think they would have coached chen a little bit more pregame and when he was at L-1 to claim PR to bait a counterclaim. Noodle is very likely conftown given chen's scumslip with respect to "one scum on one scum off" her wagon.

so that leaves Echo, who also looks pretty TvS in his dialogue with chen, and myself, which would be two of three mislynches needed for scum if its in the players named above^. I would have thought for any non!Thespio scum, especially if it were someone like Echo, they would definitely want Blastoise alive as a possible lynch. no matter how I try to angleshoot on this to sanity check myself I still keep coming back to the Blastoise kill being weird but not really changing my overall gamestate view that much.

and I still think chen bringing up Newbie 1912 was something that his partner told him to do, which would again point to Thespio.

[GuiltyLion]

oh wait URAP2 was a replacement - I guess that slightly nullifies the coaching point but not entirely

[TTTT]

Thespio is the lynch today
but we aren't rushing this
and that NK makes me go hmmm too

[u r a person 2]

but we aren't rushing this

Aww, why not?

[u r a person 2]

Echovision - I'm not voting here today (ever?) because of early interaction with chenn. Did not feel like SvS
ScreamingNoodle - Chenn was salivating over the opportunity to get on this wagon. And screamingnoodle didn't even take the time to check a pt much less ask for advice before claiming vt
NMSA - If that fake hammer was an svs gambit, it's pretty damn epic
TTTT - Townie all game, same thing as NMSA regarding fake hammer
GL - Pushed chenn early D1, didn't break up fake hammer even though he was around the thread

Thespio - chainsawed GL early, super scummy around chenn's wagon.

This is it. This is scum. Game is over.

If it's not over, Echo is scum

gg

[Thespio]

I find it odd a cop just flipped, he was read parrellel with me, now they’re dead when the split was between us... any chance scum popped him to ensure my lynch? Just asking someone to explain why scum me would kill him.

[Thespio]

assuming Thespio is town, who else could scum mislynch to win this game? NMSA/TTTT/URAP2 feel like extremely difficult mislynches given their interactions around chen on D1. also, with respect to URAP2/TTTT, frankly I think they would have coached chen a little bit more pregame and when he was at L-1 to claim PR to bait a counterclaim. Noodle is very likely conftown given chen's scumslip with respect to "one scum on one scum off" her wagon.

so that leaves Echo, who also looks pretty TvS in his dialogue with chen, and myself, which would be two of three mislynches needed for scum if its in the players named above^. I would have thought for any non!Thespio scum, especially if it were someone like Echo, they would definitely want Blastoise alive as a possible lynch. no matter how I try to angleshoot on this to sanity check myself I still keep coming back to the Blastoise kill being weird but not really changing my overall gamestate view that much.

and I still think chen bringing up Newbie 1912 was something that his partner told him to do, which would again point to Thespio.

Also just to this, several people overlap, and the rest is wifom, you rule people out ignoring the fact people bus each other. Like wtf.

[u r a person 2]

@Thespio

Who do you think is the remaining scum?

[Thespio]

@Thespio

Who do you think is the remaining scum?

Honestly the NK stumps me, to me that looks like a newbie kill, TTTT says it’s between us and they die.... guilty pinged me as scum early so I’m slowly rereading the game.

[TTTT]

so I've been worried that the Csblast NK was some kinda 4d chess
and that means GL or URAP could be scum
but I think it's more likely Thespio killed Cs because chennis' WIFOM move wasn't believed
and he thought that made CsBlast conftown

VOTE: Thespio

[TTTT]

I find it odd a cop just flipped, he was read parrellel with me, now they’re dead when the split was between us... any chance scum popped him to ensure my lynch? Just asking someone to explain why scum me would kill him.

so that you could open day2 with this post

[TTTT]

I just finished a chennis+Thespio ISO
if a Thespio lynch doesn't end this game
there are 3 scum

[NotMySpamAccount]

interesting choice of nk

VOTE: Thespio

Yeah, that kill is weird.

VOTE: Thespio for being obvscum.

[Thespio]

I find it odd a cop just flipped, he was read parrellel with me, now they’re dead when the split was between us... any chance scum popped him to ensure my lynch? Just asking someone to explain why scum me would kill him.

so that you could open day2 with this post

So people say it’s one of us, I don’t kill you or someone more prominently townie, and kill someone who is still being Sr? That makes total sense. Except it doesn’t in any way, make any sense, tbf though we killed 1 scum, a ML at this point won’t end the game for us. So if killing me gives you better clarity I’ll write it off as an acceptable sacrifice, I’ve been to busy anyways.

[Thespio]

@Thespio

Who do you think is the remaining scum?

After re reading the biggest thing that stands out to me is Chen's interactions with guilty, to me chen seems to avoid interaction, to push it off, then we get stuff like this:

hmmmmm

I'm not sure I totally buy this. 1912 is indeed a relevant game to look at, it has 3 players from this game in it, one of which was scum. So it's plausible an eager newbie town would decide to look through that game.

Which seems off as well, to me, I would put all my chips on Lion.

[TTTT]

yet you don't vote him

[Thespio]

yet you don't vote him

TBH Im re reading you now, your responses are shit.

[Thespio]

there are 3 scum

Do me a favor, explain what this is.

[TTTT]

a joke

[TTTT]

he's at L-1
plz wait until everyone posts before hammering

[Screamingnoodle]

Yea, I tend to agree with TTTT and URAP2.

The NK makes no sense at all. It actually helped the Village case of what Cs's role and alignment is due to Chennis departure.

It would actually make more sense for scum if the NK was someone other than CS. It would have left us more in confusion if it would actually be Cs or not.
Due to this and what TTTT and URAP2 have mentioned...

I'll wait to vote...

[Thespio]

Yeah ive reread TTTT, i dont think hes scum, I think its lion at this point VOTE: GuiltyLion Hopefully you can sort that NK out tomorrow.