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Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:14 am

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My point is that

Vedith and Morality were slanking and not doing anything while Creature was getting wagoned, ie scum didn't want to counter the wagon but didn't want to be on it either.
Then the wagon died and scum needed to push mislynches themselves or be lynched themselves, so they started clusterfucking Shoshin.
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Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:15 am

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In fairness this might not be that great of a point, I'm not necessarily sure that all the Shoshin votes are scum or even that a lot of them are. Possibly only Morality even.

It's possible that outside of Morality scum have no real willpower to try to fight town this game.
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Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:27 am

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Ok makes sense, I misread it.

What is your DDL read right now? I still think he's town, leaving a scum pool of Tarkus / Vedith / Morality which is very small. If one of the first two ends up town I think Yellow is where I go, how strong is your read on that slot atm? Not sure if they'd bus Morality here, but my tolerance of their complete lack of solving is wearing thin and I just town read most of the game hard. If Morality ends up town this game is going to be a lot harder than it looks.
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Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:15 pm

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I'd like to hear why Enigma's townreading Vedith before lynching there.
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Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:18 pm

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In post 1556, RadiantCowbells wrote:Read on me creature
It's probably pointless to push you now. You become more obvious after D1.
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Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:19 pm

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In post 1567, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why Tarkus over Vedith, may I know?
Felt more confident on Tarkus, but whatever.
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Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:24 pm

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In post 1528, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 826, Vedith wrote:Actually Creature might be Scum.
There s guaranteed Scum within RCE, Creature, CoA, DDL and Tarkus.
Maybe even two, but I'm sure only one.

I'm helping \o/
This Poe doesn't come from scum, I guess you could argue snow isn't in it because RC backed him early. In Vedith's case in relation to his play so far it would make more sense to snipe the easy lynches. It might be vain but I don't consider myself an easy lynch and CoA being thrown in puts a flag up. There's an angle to push with Tarkus/Roomy having 1 scum that Vedith avoided altogether so putting them at the end of the Poe only really makes sense to me if they are BOTH scum with him.

However only snow has really been willing to throw a vote down on him and Aura is the only person to really throw a townread down on him or consider him as town. Which signals to me that he's lynchbait, I think he's realized this as well and hasn't done much to change that perception which doesn't come from scum imo either.
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In post 1556, RadiantCowbells wrote:Read on me creature
It's probably pointless to push you now. You become more obvious after D1.
This is not a read.
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Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:25 pm

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In post 1581, Yachting n Socializing wrote:This is not a read.
The read you're looking for is mixed then. Sorry if you wanted something like town or scum.
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Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:44 pm

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Why push creature not reading RC over me not reading morality?
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Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:11 pm

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Creature avoided a question.
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Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:35 pm

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Vote Count 1.7YellowSnow(1)Vorkuta;

RCEnigma(2)
Aurathebirb
;DrDolittle;

Creature(1)RCEnigma;

Shoshin(0)

CultOfAthena(0)

RadiantCowbells(0)Morality;

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Morality
u r a person 2
(2)Shoshin;YellowSnow;

Vorkuta(0)

Boats n Hoes(1)Vedith;

Vedith
Sniperlyfe77
(2)RadiantCowbells;Boats n Hoes;

DrDolittle
roomy
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Tarkus(1)Creature;

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(2)Tarkus;CultOfAthena;

With 13 alive it is 7 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-02-27 10:35:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.
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Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:37 pm

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Creature slides to town lean instead of lock town. I haven't seen his scum game on a level he had for that one string, but the last couple have felt kinda forced.
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Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:42 pm

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In post 1584, Yachting n Socializing wrote:Creature avoided a question.
I probably missed it then.
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Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:30 pm

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In post 488, RCEnigma wrote:It's just shoshin and Vedith at this point. I'll throw myself in there as I voiced my intent to hammer when town comes around.
Why was Vedith a townread at this point in the game?
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Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:48 pm

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Nevermind about that. Bad question. I still don't get why you're townreading Vedith.
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Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:49 pm

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Shoshin what are your thoughts on the non-Morality scumpool?
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Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:57 pm

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Pretty much caught up.

Preferred vote today is DDL or Tarkus. Vedith I don't consider a bad vote, but I don't really know how to read him.
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Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:58 pm

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Is Morality not on that list b/c truce or not on that list b/c you don't scumread him?
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Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:02 pm

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@rc 1577
@coa did you figure out who I am
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Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:03 pm

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I'm unsure. I'm torn between Tarkus and DDL as the slot in the scumpool that has the highest equity of being town.
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Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:06 pm

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i think there's also a universe where RCE is wolf ftr
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Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:11 pm

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In post 1592, RadiantCowbells wrote:Is Morality not on that list b/c truce or not on that list b/c you don't scumread him?
A little bit of both. The only method I think I've ever read boon by is just associatively off of a lockscum read I already had (not sure what he's referring to by that game he claims I tunneled him).

I'm not going to ignore your read on him, don't worry.
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In post 1594, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm unsure. I'm torn between Tarkus and DDL as the slot in the scumpool that has the highest equity of being town.
Can you believe me when I say that I have ~reasons~ for scumreading both of them?
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Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:12 pm

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like

RC
Shoshin
YellowSnow
Boats 'n' Hoez
CoA
Creature
Aura
Vorkuta

I'd be willing to bet on all being town
If I'm wrong its boats/yellow but I don't think I am

then there's like

{DDL, Tarkus, RCE} in the same tier as of right now

then {Vedith}

then {Morality}
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Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:14 pm

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In post 1596, CultOfAthena wrote:Can you believe me when I say that I have ~reasons~ for scumreading both of them?
Let's take a step back here: If you earnestly believe that one or both of them is definitely scum I will vote with you regardless of my read. I've told you this in the past, it remains true.
I'm asking you if you think that your confidence warrants me going past my higher confidence on Vedith who is notably someone you claim to not know how to read.
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Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:17 pm

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I'm not claiming that it's that level of confidence in a scumread. I just have ~reasons~.

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