Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[Ankamius]

Heya, I've been loosely following along for a good while now (so I know roughly what's been going on), but I'll need to get through this PT that everyone's been talking about to answer that for sure.

[Ankamius]

ank did you specifically wait for a townie slot to replace

No

I joined the queue around halfway to 2/3 through day 1 actually, I think Ooba was just in the queue first

[Ankamius]

hmm

I'm undecided about FL currently; I'm leaning closer to scum than town based on the weird timings of how he approached the PT, but at the same time I felt he got a bit more town once he started moving away from reading the PT itself and role stuff.

[Ankamius]

I think I'm going to need to parse how the wagons formed and dissipated on D1 to get an effective set of reads going, I feel like that's going to be very important to figuring out how exactly scum approached this game.

[Ankamius]

ftr if FL is scum, then I could easily see Drixx being the nightkill specifically to pocket the neighborhood.

The timings I am referring to is, as far as I can tell via Drixx's comment on Vedith flipping scum, between D1 and D2.

[Ankamius]

Drixx kind of counterclaimed "ramping doctor" which is likely enough to get him nightkilled for

Probably, yeah

I would name this as a secondary reason, then

[Ankamius]

Please let me at least get some semblance of where the gamestate is at before ending the day.

It's a lot easier to fine-tune my reads based on flip info if I already have a basis to work from.

[Ankamius]

Why are people voting for Gamma?

I am actually leaning town on that slot.

[Ankamius]

But the only way you could KNOW half of my reads are right is you are scum and he's town tho

really

[Ankamius]

Why are people voting for Gamma?

I am actually leaning town on that slot.

iso his d2 content

~Near

are there any specific posts that are especially indicative?

[Ankamius]

What makes you give Gamma a townlean, Ank?

the same metric I used to correctly read Gamma as scum last time I saw it is ringing town here.

I will grant that a quick look at her early posting makes it a lot less clear to me, but the recent posting doesn't feel like how I remember scum-her acting at all.

[Ankamius]

I have a hard time seeing scum-Gamma posting her most recent like 10-20 posts as a wagon on her starts to build up

[Ankamius]

Chito:

I can already summarize the problem with comparing 2023 and 2181: they were made 47 hours apart.

[Ankamius]

are there any specific posts that are especially indicative?

Chito: 2435 was for you, Ank.

Unfortunately it does also then require you to find Flavor Leaf's case on N&M, which is summarized in 2187. So the problems people have with Gamma's slot hinge in part in how you think Gamma would respond to 2187.

My concerns with Gamma sheeping FL on N&M partly hinge on how Gamma presented her read of SSBF (Vedith redflip slot), which you can see here:

Spoiler:

Also SSBF proly town

Also SSBF proly town

why

I liked what they were saying.

Gamma what of ssbf's catch up did you like lol i dont get it

In a sec

Tbh I like SSBF's posting a lot less now. I think I just saw walls with seemingly thought out statements and townbinned it.

In short, for our previous redflip, Gamma said she liked the slot, stalled on explaining why, then backpedaled by saying she townread the slot only because of wallposts, which seems loosely similar to what she was doing irt to FL's posts on N&M this dayphase.

idk, I'm not seeing why this is more likely to come from scum than town. I've had moments almost exactly like that one at least a dozen times in the past as town, and I would kinda expect Gamma to already have an explanation ready or at least to try to pass it off with some made up bs rather than backpedal on it like she did.

[Ankamius]

ftr Pink Ball and I are talking about FL in the PT

currently I'm completely unconvinced that FL's mindset in there across the game so far is town-motivated, the progression I'm seeing that would make it a town mindset would require town to be significantly behind, which is bizarre for a gamestate where one scum is already dead and he has a masonry PT like he has already claimed the PT to be.

I guess the neverending competing wagons to Vedith could count as reason to want to take over the PT to have everyone rally behind him, but I don't think that's really enough to justify needing to go as far as he did.

[Ankamius]

idk Chito

there's a giant clusterfuck of role things in the PT and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if there were ongoing gambits and lying in play.

[Ankamius]

I only have a few reads atm Chito, and all of them are town except for light/moderate-scum FL.

I think this game is going to need a townblock-style approach rather than the CHAINLYNCHWITHFIRE approach

[Ankamius]

Would like to hear your initial gutread on Elena when you get a chance even though I don't particularly want to push there right now, just a slot I'm finding hard to settle on a read for and wouldn't mind a fresh take.

I kinda feel like she's one of those slots that I will need to sort after I have a rough idea of what the gamestate looks like

[Ankamius]

Hi Kokichi

How are you

[Ankamius]

Mastina can you go into how you reached your PoE when you get a chance?

[Ankamius]

Chito I decided to go through Elena's ISO anyways and I'm already seeing a lot of scummy posting just from the first five posts.

That's either a sign that Elena is not very good at hiding as a wolf or that I'm scumreading playstyle. The fact that it's an alt just muddies it more

[Ankamius]

Chito:

Page 7 Town OR Scum Who Broke the Rules (but would scum do that?)

Spoiler:

Dunnstral
Gamma Emerald
Torque
Near x Mello (HYDRA: Wisdom + Kokichi Oma)
Asking for a friend (HYDRA: Alisae + the worst)
Morality Flavor Leaf
Reasonably Psychotic (HYDRA: Cerberus v666 + Amzela)
Clemency
BulletNLynchproof
Toogeloo
Drixx
Joan of Arc

<--since this player list is massive, this is actually just a list of people I've arbitrarily decided not to think about for right now

People who did not post on page 7:

That I think are town anyway
Almost50
mastina

That make me wonder -- Is Jet Right?
Spike and Jet (HYDRA: Xtoxm + Creature)
Robert2424

That make me wonder -- Apathetic town or scum that didn't get excited about their role PM:
Super Smash Bros. Fan
Elena Fisher

What do you guys think? Which out of SSBF and Elena is busy town and which is scum that doesn't like their role PM?

I feel like you might push me considering what I'm about to say, but oh well. I dislike this post mostly because I don't think you really believe this list. It feels like you throwing a list out just to see what sticks. A lot of this feels like a reach anyway. The only reads that seem okay on this are A50 and Mastina. But from what I can tell they have a lot of townreads anyway.

I especially hate this response now that SSBF is a flipped scum.

[Ankamius]

So one of the people I can't ever read

Good to know

[Ankamius]

I think it would still be more productive to wait to put a read on you until I have a better idea of what scum are doing here

[Ankamius]

I don't have a while lot of time currently so I won't comment on most of it, but if your PoE is accurate, I believe you have the exact team nailed since I'm currently townreading both Almost50 and Gamma Emerald.

The Gamma read is pretty simply this: she reacts in a specific way as scum when she feels threatened from my recent experience (I was one of her biggest critics in both of the last games I've seen her scum in) and has reacted pretty similarly as town when she started getting pretty close to a lynch back when I was scum against her in an open a good while back. My overall read of her is that she will lash out when she feels threatened regardless of her alignment, and yet I've noticed that there is significantly less of it now that there's a decent push against her than there was from my skim of her ISO D1. I'd think that scum-her would be feeling very threatened throughout day 2 once she started catching all this suspicion, yet she has been fairly calm and imo most of the points people have against her are just people scumreading her for whatever she does that gets her scumread every game. I don't see it at all.

Almost50, I will 100% be able to catch if I see enough from him. He is a lot harder to read when he's town, but I've had no issues spotting scum-him every time I've seen it. The way the approaches the game is night and day, and currently the 5 or so posts I've seen aren't it so far.

[Ankamius]

Like Almost50 was blatantly scum in police academy because his entire approach was there to look like he was doing something rather than actually doing something. Same thing with Gorkington, both of them had really weird responses to various things in the game and were putting too much thought into pretty useless stuff.

Push strength I can't really comment on, I haven't seen enough recent town play to have an idea where his overall confidence level as town is nowadays. He seemed plenty confident enough in his townreads in that last scumgame I mentioned :P

[Ankamius]

I read through the ISO of a50 in variety hour and it looks like classic scum-A50 to me.

His joking nature and content in the game usually mesh together and just from picking a random point and reading like 10 posts, he had almost exclusively serious content with a single joke post in between.

Plus he was pushing weird role stuff that didn't really matter, so that doesn't help either.

[Ankamius]

I feel like the game is less solved than everybody thinks it is.

[Ankamius]

Well...

It kinda depends too, but it's worrying that my initial townreads are almost exclusively in the PoE pool

[Ankamius]

Like... if this is as dire a situation as it seems and FL is scum, wouldn't he have seen this kind of thing coming and made steps to prevent it? It seems unlikely to me that he suddenly realized he needed to pocket the entire neighborhood because his entire team got PoEd out after the fact, that sounds like incredibly sloppy scum play from somebody who is supposed to be good at scum.

Plus with all the different wagons D1...

[Ankamius]

That sounds like a town thing to do rather than a scum thing to do, especially if the scumteam is who you believe it is.

[Ankamius]

what did?

i meant that scum fl would pocket his hood regardless of d1 lynch and poe

~Near

Oh, then idk

The part that's suspicious to me is that he was playing an entirely different tune d1

[Ankamius]

Ch1 is me, Joan, Pink Ball, and Almost50 I think?

[Ankamius]

And FL slot

[Ankamius]

Drixx was indeed in channel 1 as well

[Ankamius]

Remind me in like 2-3 hours to get back to cerb

[Ankamius]

This slip thing is weaksauce

[Ankamius]

He was using it as an example to make a point PB

Either way I don't find this compelling at all. It was an off hand comment as an example to make a point. I strongly doubt even sxum partnered with FL would pay too much attention to making sure that part is correct; honestly it's probably a sign that FL is either town or they hadn't discussed the PTs at all (remember no daytalk for scum PT) that he specified more beyond what FL explicitly said. At best it's dead null because the context it was provided in makes it entirely plausible that it was the result of faulty memory or an assumption that became the memory of what he saw.

Either way, it's not a slip.

[Ankamius]

Tbh I'm not liking Cerb this game in general

I feel like he's better than this push and I didn't like how he worded the PT point for FL-scum.

[Ankamius]

I actually was getting to answering the question but then I accidently hit the back button on my mouse so it's all gone

fuck my life

[Ankamius]

and I'm iffy about your push because I kinda feel like you would've checked the context before pushing it, you're the kind of player that I've seen pick up on subtleties like this, so I'm confused as to how you would've missed that progression since I was able to pick up on it pretty quickly just from reading the two posts and then checking SSBF's ISO.

[Ankamius]

TL;DR

he posts that he leans town on everyone in the PT (assuming he also means A50 since he mentioned beforehand that he was pretty sure A50 had neighborhood access) roughly halfway through p57

on p62 (immediately after the vote count), he has a back and forth with pink ball where he calls the PT a masonry and then responds to an offhand comment by PB asking whether he's pocketing them by saying that he's the one being pocketed if anybody is.

I'll get to the claiming thing next, but it's around this point too with flavor claims (and Morality's p57 post I mentioned earlier also had a negative utility soft claim)

[Ankamius]

I had the post all pretty with links and everything but I can't have nice things

[Ankamius]

I actually was getting to answering the question but then I accidently hit the back button on my mouse so it's all gone

fuck my life

if you pressed forward after that youd have your text back

~Near

I did

and I didn't

and I cried

[Ankamius]

Joan talk to me please

Do it in the PT if you'd rather do that but I want to know where your head is at atm

[Ankamius]

Let me talk to the FL replacement in the PT when they arrive, I'm still conflicted about that slot and want another brain to pick

[Ankamius]

Which is why I want to hold course today; even if our solve isn't right, I feel it is at least MOSTLY right--I feel we are mostly looking in the right places, and with the benefit of roles, flip, and time, we can figure out the small details we initially/currently got wrong to hone in, refine, and perfect the solve.

I can't shake the feeling that town is being shepherded, though. And with a playerlist like this, I think there's a pretty short timer for scum to kill off all the players that are most likely to catch on to what's happening before they get enough of an advantage to take over the game.

The way the game is set up right now feels like a trap.

[Ankamius]

Are you certain the vedith lynch wasn't pushed through by scum because it would solidify the rest of their positions?

I'll have to look into how those wagons shifted around to have a better theory about it but I'm not sure how that wagon goes through without scum support based on the wagon sizes and speed?

[Ankamius]

The different wagons on D1 are telling, sure, but they don't tell the story of "scum could've counterwagoned Vedith but chose not to"; they tell the story of "scum tried to counterwagon Vedith but literally couldn't".

I'm seeing Gamma and pink ball wagons be essentially stagnant at where they are from even before vedith-slot became a decently sized wagon. Unless you're saying that the wagon on you was specifically the wagon scum tried to push to save vedith, where exactly are these attempts coming from?

[Ankamius]

Plus what stops scum from pushing the pink ball or Gamma wagons? Worst case scenario, even if that would result in SvS wagons, that creates a ton of towncred for the scum that was the counterwagon to the flipped scum.

[Ankamius]

I've had that feeling since like 5 pages ago Spike or jet

[Ankamius]

Scum didn't want to push Gamma's wagon because that was a wagon on scum too

Gamma isn't scum

[Ankamius]

...then what exactly were scum doing, mastina?

[Ankamius]

I'm seeing Gamma and pink ball wagons be essentially stagnant at where they are from even before vedith-slot became a decently sized wagon.

If the solve of Flavor Leaf-ooba-Toogeloo is correct, then the Pink Ball counterwagon to Vedith had

three

scum on it--not shown in any single votecount, but when you look at it, Robert was on that wagon; Morality was on that wagon; Vedith was on that wagon. The only person in the solve not on that wagon was Toogeloo.

That seems like it counts as trying-yet-failing, because failure was inevitable.

Plus what stops scum from pushing the pink ball or Gamma wagons?

What makes you think they didn't?

Both proven and suspected scum voted in those wagons.

The Vedith wagon had too much going for it to fall apart; the counterwagons were all self-evidently flawed and weak, off of superficial reasoning with the sole exception of the Pink Ball wagon--which DID rival Vedith's...until Pink Ball obvtowned himself. (In fact, Pink Ball makes a nice contrast with Morality/Flavor Leaf. Both had AtE-laden moments, riddled with laced words. The difference between the two is that Pink Ball doing so revealed a town mindset; Morality/Flavor Leaf doing so was out of manipulation. But I digress.)

Pink Ball was the closest to a viable counterwagon, which is shown to have contained scum, but he made that lynch not be viable with how he obvtowned himself. Vedith meanwhile became more and more an appealing lynch because he made misplay after misplay--none of those misplays looked intentional, so much as accidental, genuine, fuckups on his part that screwed him over.

My problem with this is that it means 3 scum stayed on pink ball for most of the day while their scum partner was pushed up and the rest of the wagon stalled.

If pink ball obvtowned like you said they did, why did they not jump ship when the wagon was no longer viable?

[Ankamius]

Ank I am not sure if you read it or not, but Vedith scumclaimed by claiming a flavor character he couldnt have

there isnt much scum could do after that

~Near

When was this exactly?

[Ankamius]

So right before he got lynched, which is after all the other stuff I've been mentioning :V

[Ankamius]

I think I'll just look myself, that sequence still feels off.

[Ankamius]

im not quite sure what your issue is

you think scum have to have bussed?

~Near

I'm having my usual "Don't have the words to describe what I'm thinking" moment

I'll figure it out eventually

[Ankamius]

I'm 5 pages into day 1 and I already miss alisaeduck

and they were never even here at the same time I was

[Ankamius]

@ank
with your paranoia stuff
prioritse getting a read on mastina
she has enough people sheeping her that it could be a problem
anyone else being a deep wolf isnt an issue to me in terms of deal with right now

see idk how to actually GET a read on mastina I can be confident in until I've seen how she interacts with me and/or have a pretty good view of the gamestate already

and the problem is that if she IS scum, then she just kills me

[Ankamius]

and what she's been doing so far is not enough, it's either legitimate attempts to mindmeld or damage control to keep me at bay until nighttime

[Ankamius]

VOTE: ooba

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Spike and Jet

Mastina, Wisdom, promise me you will not drive town off a cliff if I die tonight.

[Ankamius]

Xtoxm has most of them Dunn, at least while I was in the game

[Ankamius]

:V

[Ankamius]

Severa is mind melding a surprising amount with me even if they're for different reasons.

[Ankamius]

I like Severa's reads and agree with them, especially the townreads

Severa herself seems kinda underwhelming though

Though Severa's reads are too close to consensus for my liking

I'm working on this in the PT, stk

Severa specifically has to be looking to pocket me in order to be scum here and that isn't something I expect them to enter the thread with

[Ankamius]

Spoiler: Every Creature Post This Game

Hi, I waited a whole year to post here.

What's up?

Oh shit, nearly forgot about this game.

I am a miller

VOTE: Dunnstral

First townread.

Yeh, I'm definitely not gonna read all pages.

i'm just waiting for all the nerds to show up

Ever found it weird how 1³ + 2³ + 3³ + ... + n³ = (1 + 2 + 3 + ... + 4)²?

Prove by induction. Extend the proof.

Don't be teasing up in this thread.

Oops, I meant (1 + 2 + 3 + ... + n)²

Dunno why I put a 4 there.

Would anyone like to comment whether their channels are active?

Channel 5 is dead. It hasn't been posted in for a couple days now.

I just had a pleasant conversation with one member of my channel yesterday.

Were all channels outed?

What are the claims so far?

I suppose you claimed priest, am I right?

Cool, the interesting players appeared.

Also I townread the Asking for a friend slot.

Omg it’s vedith! I’m dead!!!

Aight, for real time to catch up. Been inactive here for too long

This is probably town.

I will say, however, there is a bit of concern that Spike and Jet might be buddying you, which is setting up a few flags.

I have this exact same feeling. Even more so that it's Xtoxm that was posting.

Now it's Creature posting. So what do you think?

Wow, this game is not very interesting for me for some reason

Strange.

SHINY DAYS!!

SHINI DAYS

GET UP!
GET UP!

SHINI DAYS

GET UP!
GET UP!

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. Also, props to anyone who gets the ref.)

4/9 votes makes you worried and panicked, when there's not really any concrete pressure on you, and we're not close enough to deadline to just default to you, and as a replacement people tend to give you room to breathe if a deadline isn't approaching?

Urge to vote pink ball rising.

VOTE: reasonably psychotic
yukiterus new posts are fluff
and no, good points were not made about spike

Urge to take vote off of reasonably psychotic lowering.

Pretty weird reaction from mastina.

Piecing the game together, I think it's very possible Spike and Jet could be scum here.

Alisae was going ho Creature scum meta. After constant pushes, Creature finally shows up, but Alisae has now replaced out, so any pressure that might have happened will never be.

I have just been getting a lot of activity filler feelings from the past few pages, and the recent buddying of Verdith is just making me feel worse about the slot.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Spike and Jet

You're likely town, but let's not.

Also Alisae was too early on me. You can't tell my alignment in the first few days.

Should I claim?

Yeh, Vedith is definitely town.

VOTE: reasonably psychotic

yukiterus new posts are fluff
and no, good points were not made about spike

Am I Spike or Jet? I keep forgetting.

Damn, deadline is faster approaching then I though, thankfully I thought to check here first. I was expecting 5+ more pages to read through missing a day, but people are replacing out once they get a bit of pressure....

never mind, misread mods post.

While I still suspect Near x Mello, I'm slightly more uncomfortable with the Pink Ball/asking for friend slot. Perhaps Pink Ball will provide something better then asking did.

Vote: Pink Ball

at least for now.

Editing vote tag, just in case the vote counter overlooks it.

Scummy.

So I (Spike/Creature) got about 26 posts including this one.

Maybe soon enough I'll have more posts than the second top poster.

Doing backwards catch up is so good. I should start doing more.

Dunnstral

Spike and Jet
Vedith

Gamma Emerald
singletonking
Chito and Yuuri
Joan of Arc

Toogeloo

Drixx
Elena Fisher

Morality

R

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a

s

o

n

a

b

l

y

P

s

y

c

h

o

t

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mastina
Almost50
Torque
Robert2424

Clemency

Near x Mello

Pink Ball

Not bad, but need more.

Chito: Is there meaning in crossing out ever other letter of Reasonably Psychotic or was that just for mE

m

Es?

I'm not entirely sure in striking him out completely.

Chito: I'm guessing you didn't consult with Jet at all given that Rob isn't crossed?

No, I'm going on my own for now.

also, when spike told me he wasnt planning to post much, i thought he meant like not townspewing until muuuuuch later

Nah, just didn't want to be treated as an IC before I got decent reads.

Nahhh you're good, bro. You're living for a long, long time with reads like those. A VERY long time.

Cool then.

Quite the opposite I kinda think he's town. I'll vote there to get a lynch

Great idea!

i guess he changed his mind due to the pressure from ali

lol feeling pressured by Ali.

Actually I just wanted to play this game and I suppose you needed your hydra partner dominating the thread with you.

Creature is spam posting now, but not really doing more than that. Just artificially boosting post count to look super active.

Posting reads is artificially boosting post count?

Yeh, I'll need to check with Jet on Vedith.

Is there anything worth my attention here?

I see no.

What did Drixx say about Reasonably Psychotic?

I started reading posts from the newest to the oldest and look what happened!

Don't tell me its because of claim cause that's dumb

What claim?

Joan, Clemency, Pink Ball, why is it obvious that Morality is a villager based on hood posts

I find Morality towny independent of the hood.

Yeah, all I’m really hearing is “Morality is scum who’s townie.”

So you win if you eliminate all mafia and/or achieve parity with town?

Clemency is town, Torque is town

Sticking with Morality is town

Also sorry for the Vedith screwup

I wasn't really reading the game good enough

I had doubts before, but now I'm fairly sure mastina is town too.

Do you have a scumread?

Do you have a scumread?

Is this for me

Yes, or Clemency.

Did Near Mellow do something noticeable?

Ankamius!!!!

Welcome to the soon-to-be-dead club

Oh wait, I forgot to ask if you're town first.

creature why you only post in ch3

~Near

Logging into the hydra account sucks.

I love the thought of personificating something new, but damn, switching accounts is complicated.

I have a solution for that that would probably require lot of programming though.

Did Xtoxm post something lately?

creature why you only post in ch3

~Near

Logging into the hydra account sucks.

I love the thought of personificating something new, but damn, switching accounts is complicated.

I have a solution for that that would probably require lot of programming though.

I meant, that isnt the only channel you can post in, is it?

~Near

I'm not aware of any other tbh.

btw use different browsers or incognito mode for different accounts. No need to switch.

~Near

Still a pain. Is it possible to use two tabs for different accounts at incognito mode though?

btw use different browsers or incognito mode for different accounts. No need to switch.

~Near

Still a pain. Is it possible to use two tabs for different accounts at incognito mode though?

no what i mean is, one account on the regular browser, one on the incognito mode browser

~Near

If I don't need to open another window, it's okay. Otherwise, no.

weird but ok Ill believe you

~Near

Are you seeing me in one other channel?

I can't find it in this account.

well if you guys dont think its a slip we can go back to ooba

Totally agree here, Jet

Is it too late to powerwolf?

tada. if you're not voting him you're really bad at the game.

Woo 63 posts, more than enough to be easily considered town. Though, maybe you're missing some?

I have more than 63 posts and I've been here for what... 2 days? And I haven't even been trolling or making fluffy posts like I usually do

So yes, 63 is very unimpressive for somebody who has been here for a month

[Ankamius]

Why because you're going to kill me?

[Ankamius]

Ftr I'm blocking any lynch on severa after this point

[Ankamius]

Okay I'm fully on board with this now

[Ankamius]

Meh, I want something else other than Severa clowning around.

This post is horrific

Lynch this

[Ankamius]

Yes it is a public alt

[Ankamius]

Still not getting lynched today, but let's have fun

Just post something interesting because usually I've seen two scum players pull something more interesting on me than you're doing here.

Why are you not getting lynched today

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Spike and Jet

Mastina, Wisdom, promise me you will not drive town off a cliff if I die tonight.

ask me that when youre not voting town on the whims of obvscum

Show me then

[Ankamius]

Is all of that to STK

[Ankamius]

Dw wisdom

I'll make damn sure that RC and I are on the same page tonight and break any possible future paranoia that I'm being pocketed

I think it's unlikely with our conversation in the PT and how similar our reads are (I'm behind by about 3 townreads but that's about it?)

[Ankamius]

I'm so glad that half of the debate is so much more common than I had expected it to

[Ankamius]

PT stuff elena

[Ankamius]

Ah, has she posted in the PT? I won't ask what but just a Y/N

Severa and I had a like 3 page discussion in the PT

[Ankamius]

mainly about reads

[Ankamius]

the people who have access to the PT actually knows a decent amount more about where my head's at than everyone else does

[Ankamius]

I've noticed that I get manipulated and pocketed less and generally have a higher success rate with my pushes when I don't throw everything I have in the main thread where everybody can see it

that's why I usually have private PTs every game

[Ankamius]

it's more a thing of it's a lot easier to make it into a controlled environment when I only have to worry about 5 people instead of 15

plus I feel like my shelf life in this game is short enough that if I just hide everything important behind a wall nobody can see, it'll just get lost without having any use

[Ankamius]

I'd have gotten a lot more mileage out of the FL slot tbh

[Ankamius]

I prefer replacing into scummy town slots than townie town slots

[Ankamius]

yeah but clem was nowhere near the general lynch pool when I replaced in

[Ankamius]

yes

it looks like it was a gambit lol

[Ankamius]

I see I dropped in at a great time

[Ankamius]

I still feel RC has a decent chance of being scum

But I don't like how NxM *just* changed his opinion on both RC and S&J

creature's posts are awful
i do think theres a chance rc is powerbussing but i trust ank when she says hes town

~Near

I don't think RC enters the game the way he did unless he was specifically trying to pocket me

but why would he want to pocket me in the first place lol

[Ankamius]

Ank what do you think
Could RC be bussing Creature here?

~Near

I've seen him do this kind of thing before, yes

it's probably going to be a lot more alignment indicative what he does tomorrow

[Ankamius]

I have a specific thing I'm looking for that should tip me off that RC is scum if it ends up happening

I still strongly believe he's more likely to be town here but I'm taking my precautions just in case

[Ankamius]

are you certain that xtoxm hasn't played with RC since 2016?

[Ankamius]

I'm trying to see how plausible the other side is, RC

[Ankamius]

I think we're exactly where we were like 8 posts ago

[Ankamius]

Ank.

rc's argument is that it doesnt make sense xtoxm replaced out because of the bussing, because rc is a scum god and xtoxm shouldn't but feel honored that he was being bussed.

Do you think that makes sense?

idk, Wisdom, I just don't see the meat behind this push.

I see it a lot more likely that he replaced from RC's entrance to the game more than bussing, especially since Creature was there before the replace out.

[Ankamius]

unless you think Creature wouldn't tell him that it's likely because Creature is known for having a relatively easy scumgame to crack?

[Ankamius]

unless you think Creature wouldn't tell him that it's likely because Creature is known for having a relatively easy scumgame to crack?

im not following
tell him what?

why RC is bussing upon replacing in

[Ankamius]

Yes lynch me tomorrow please

[Ankamius]

Toog you're the best

[Ankamius]

There you go

Hammer please

[Ankamius]

I think Joan was already on?

[Ankamius]

Who does RCscum kill here though

[Ankamius]

contentless bah post

[Ankamius]

Pink ball :(

[Ankamius]

You were so close to blowing torques cover :(

If I had played n2 differently, that might have won the game, a50 blowing all my credibility with wisdom was one of the most heartbreaking things I've ever seen in a mafia game

[Ankamius]

That was to pink ball

[Ankamius]

You were so close to blowing torques cover :(

Really? When?

In the campfire, when you called him out

[Ankamius]

Severa getting vigged fucked me up too dw

[Ankamius]

It also made damn sure my gamestate read never got leaked :V

[Ankamius]

Severa getting vigged fucked me up too dw

Wait what happened

I assumed there would be three town available in my neighborhood so I wasn't concerned about my specific reads on my neighbors

Then severa got vigged and both the town remaining in my neighborhood got put off by me not townreading them so

[Ankamius]

I think my main takeaway from this game is: "Wow! That Akarin girl is really, really cool... and I wanna be her friend!"