Open 746: Bus Service [Game Over]

[BuJaber]

I had fun honestly. It was fun trying to relive the movie 300.

[BuJaber]

And I'm starting to think FB is probably scum upon a clemency scum flip. He was the only one who actually promised me and renegged and he townread me several times but still ended up voting me several times. The only person he actually took any effort in sorting was flubbernugget. The day 2 lynch that flipped town.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll be really amused by your shit talking of MS towns if you're town here given you did nothing this entire game besides tunnel a town slot.

[BuJaber]

You know I talked to and about other people. And you know that people's reactions to a push can tell you just as much about a player's alignment as the player's posts themselves. Clemency was hard defended. They weren't defended as null no. People were completely against the idea of even scumreading him.

If this is truly how people are going to treat 'trolly' accounts then trolly acvounts should be banned surely. The actively damage town's ability to perform well, and thus are always pro-scum, but these accounts will statistically roll town more often than not which means they're playing against their win condition. When role playing affects the game it stops being roleplaying and starts being rule breaking.

[RadiantCowbells]

???

People correctly townread Clemency

Just because

you

can't read him doesn't mean there's a systemic problem here. You tunneled him to the point that he gave up on the game and flaked out of the game at a point where he had basically already won as scum no matter who his buddies are. If you have a problem with him and players like him then by all means avoid them but it felt to me like you were pushing a known policy lynch on my slot and I expect better from town you. And I didn't even want to lynch you today.

Also, from your perspective you randomly jumped to L1 when I started to push creature, when I had asked everyone to lay off the fucking votes no less. If you're town my vote shouldn't be the point on the wagon that you have a problem with. My stance was that you were always going to get lynched if you were town so I need to make sure I'm on the wagon if you're scum so that Creature can't cite being on the wagon and walk away tomorrow.

[RadiantCowbells]

I get the feeling that even when you know my slot is town you'll still think your actions are correct because Clemency is a troll or w/e so I'll leave you be. But derptunneling town is far more anti town than having an off color playstyle.

[BuJaber]

I focused on you because I expect better from town!you and because it sounds like you're trying to avoid any pushback on you when I flip town so I'm warning the rest. Your vote as a vote is just as bad as everyone else not worse.

And the bad town play goes beyond just the clemency and me thing.
If akarin is town he tried to blame me for RoS' lynch. That probably was the worst thing that happened to me this game. It flipped a goddamn switch in me and tilted me to all hell.

[BuJaber]

If you think there's no reason to scumread clemency you're wrong but that's okay.
If you think there's any justifiable reason to townread clemency you're dellusional. They have no reason to townread him. It felt like they were doing it to spite me and to protect a buddy.

He wasn't town and you aren't town you're still trying to win the game. Talk afterwards not while your alignment is still technically in the dark.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm pretty sure that's the opposite of what I'm doing?

If I wanted to avoid push back for your town flip, I don't quick hammer you. My only priority in twilight has been making sure Creature dies after you. I literally did nothing else until you came in now.

He wasn't town and you aren't town you're still trying to win the game. Talk afterwards not while your alignment is still technically in the dark.

Ask the mod for spoilers. Don't do what you did here again please.

[BuJaber]

I even asked multiple times for people to show me what clemency has done worth townreading and they didn't. I tried really hard. You can look in my ISO to see how many times I tried to engage people on this point but no. All they were interested in was painting me as scum. This was definitely not a derptunnel. I hit paydirt and I wasn't giving up.

Take the loss town. You deserved it. Scum well done you did nothing and won.

[RadiantCowbells]

Rest of this conversation can wait until postgame or for me to get nightkilled tonight I guess

[mutantdevle]

Votecount: 3.Final

(5) BuJaber voted by:

Firebringer, Akarin, Creature, wilky, RadiantCowbells.

- LYNCHED!

(2) RadiantCowbells voted by:

BuJaber, Eyes without a face.

(1) Creature voted by:

Alonzo.

[mutantdevle]

BuJaber was lynched. He was a backup bus driver.

Backup Bus Driver

You are a backup bus driver. You are aligned with the

town

.

In the event that the town bus driver dies, you have a chance of becoming the new bus driver.

You will win when all mafia members have been killed.

Day 3 is over and night 3 has begun. Night 3 will end in (expired on 2019-03-04 12:15:00).

[mutantdevle]

Akarin was killed during the night. She was the bus driver.

Bus Driver

You are a bus driver. You are aligned with the

town

.

Each night, you may drive 2 players. This will result in any actions directed towards either of them being swapped.

The mafia's factional drive will be resolved before yours. You may drive yourself.

You will win when all mafia members have been killed.

A new bus driver has been randomly chosen.

[mutantdevle]

Votecount: 4.0

(7) Not voting:

mcqueen, Firebringer, Creature, wilky, RadiantCowbells, Eyes without a face, Alonzo.

With 7 players alive, 4 votes are needed for a lynch.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2019-03-11 17:00:00).

[RadiantCowbells]

Was there some reason y'all just had to wagon buja before I could get settled in the thread?

Serious question after lynching town every day thus far as a group what makes you think the correct play is to quicklynch before I can fully contribute?


Anyone votes before I do today I speedvote them.

I can find scum, I can't make you follow me

But do realize that if I'm scum you've already lost, but if I'm town maybe I can solo this game for you. No promises. I would have bet 80% town odds as of yesterday now who the fuck even knows which flex spots are scum

Firebringer
Alonzo
EWAF
Mcqueen

What are your reads? Who do you think is scum and town?

[RadiantCowbells]

Bus driver does not claim yet

I will give whoever I end up wanting to vote a chance to claim

Town wincon is to use the bus to make me unkill

Actually wait BD outs now if any kills have involved their redirect targets

[RadiantCowbells]

From where I'm standing

Lovebird was town: I can snap read her on meta. Wilky would also be a decent townread if I didn't have Lovebird.

Creature is still scum. Essentially confirmed scum. Not voting him for the Lynch today, however, because we want a safe scum slot to guarantee a redirect redirects to scum and gives us a mislynch. You don't want to always target creature, like 1d3 and target on 1 or 2? But at this point our EV of winning is highest going for him exactly tomorrow mathematically plus if I do end up killed you'll only have to Lynch one more scum instead of two

2/4 of the remainder are scum. I don't want to reveal my hand further here: I believe I know one scum but I'm uncertain who they would be partnered with.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm dearly hoping that wilky isn't BD because that gives us 1/3 odds of winning without even having to scumhunt if the BD goes uncced

[RadiantCowbells]

Idc how good you think you are or how confident you are that x player is scum

Don't vote anyone

[Creature]

Serious question after lynching town every day thus far as a group what makes you think the correct play is to quicklynch before I can fully contribute?

Well, I didn't hammer BuJaber...

[Creature]

Creature is still scum. Essentially confirmed scum. Not voting him for the Lynch today, however, because we want a safe scum slot to guarantee a redirect redirects to scum and gives us a mislynch.

You're funny, RC.

[Creature]

but if I'm town maybe I can solo this game for you.

If you're town most likely you'll speed up the scum sweep.

[RadiantCowbells]

Even by your modern basically gamethrowing as town standards this game is well outside of your town range.

[Creature]

I wanted to lynch Alonzo the most yesterday, but no one listened to me.