Open 748: Jungle Republic - Over!

[Auro]

The strongest reason for him not being Mafia is the Speedwagon on him last game day - which, as I recall, had Brass, Vedith and Me hopping on it. Why would Maf!Jay bus his partner in that situation? And from your perspective, A50, why would BOTH other mafia bus him, especially with one Mafia outed?

@A50

[Auro]

There's gonna be a whole lot of questioning of those that shaded, or scumread, or advocated for your lynch earlier in the game but are not following through with it.

The mistake with your line of thought is to assume that Wolves won't shoot Bambi.
In the current gamestate, they *have* to shoot Mafia, or they'll likely lose - especially if we hit a wolf today.
They have no option but to shoot Bambi Jay.
I'd rather trust Wolves to play to their win-con rather than gamethrow, and this makes the hydra a better lynch than Jay.

[BuJaber]

There's gonna be a whole lot of questioning of those that shaded, or scumread, or advocated for your lynch earlier in the game but are not following through with it.

The mistake with your line of thought is to assume that Wolves won't shoot Bambi.
In the current gamestate, they *have* to shoot Mafia, or they'll likely lose - especially if we hit a wolf today.
They have no option but to shoot Bambi Jay.
I'd rather trust Wolves to play to their win-con rather than gamethrow, and this makes the hydra a better lynch than Jay.

I am worried about the hydra flipping town and Bambi being a wolf. In which case can you guarantee that they would shoot mafia?

I know the odds of that are very low, even the analysis of the game state suggests Bambi has to be mafia, but it is not worth the risk when we can lynch Bambi now.

Also I think you could be mafia yourself so I'm very careful about sheeping you atm.

[brassherald]

BuJ what are your reads like right now? Got a town block or anything?

[Bambi Jay]

He's more focused on mislynching town (me) and saving his scum buddy (Applejack) today, Brass.

I'll wait for scum reading to catch up before saying more.

[BuJaber]

Pretty sure roster is town.

I feel fairly confident you're town now brass after you started playing the game.

Mcqueen probably isn't wolf given he hasn't been pounced on yet despite being lurky. Could be mafia.

Hydra / bambi aren't the same scum faction. Could be opposite factions or one scum one town.

And I think one of A50/Auro are mafia.

That's all I can say with any confidence honestly.
Funny how the overwhelming support for no lynch is now sitting quietly not knowing what to do.

[BuJaber]

He's more focused on mislynching town (me) and saving his scum buddy (Applejack) today, Brass.

I'll wait for scum reading to catch up before saying more.

Are you really this upset that your gambit didn't work on ONE person?

Didn't know you cared this much about me

[Auro]

Mcqueen probably isn't wolf given he hasn't been pounced on yet despite being lurky.

False, he was pounced on - there was a quickwagon on him last game day; I keep pushing him.
A50's logic on his McQueen read is bad, as I pointed out. Yours is bad, too. If anything, wouldn't you assume he'd more likely be pounced on if he was town, Wolves going for the easy mislynch etc?

Funny how the overwhelming support for no lynch is now sitting quietly not knowing what to do.

I want to vote for the hydra, I'm waiting for SR to catch up and if seer with a guilty / two innos, claim.

I am worried about the hydra flipping town and Bambi being a wolf. In which case can you guarantee that they would shoot mafia?

Very unlikely, especially considering a wolf would never claim Mafia and ask not to be checked - quite a stupid move and Jay's competent enough not to do that. I'm pretty sure a seer would've checked the claim, too. What IS likelier than that is Jay actually being a villager in this scenario, I've played with him in the past.

Your play has been getting scummier with time - I feel like you're establishing multiple lynch paths with surface-level dichotomies ("One of A50, Auro" or "One of Bambi, Hydra). You say you're ready to lynch the hydra, but when I offer a convincing reason to let wolves shoot Jay, you bring up a scenario (which you admit is unlikely) to double down on lynching Jay. You also passively imply that anyone not voting Jay is mafia. You don't seem very concerned/interested that A50 and I disagree with you, either - I'm not seeing a good-faith attempt to engage.

[brassherald]

I don't love that BuJs read list has two people listed as town and both have claimed not seer, essentially

[ajfefijsleifjsa]

hi we’re seer

[ajfefijsleifjsa]

there no crumbs because crumbing is stupid

[brassherald]

Investigations and results?

[ajfefijsleifjsa]

brass and bmabi aren’t wolf

[ajfefijsleifjsa]

impatient smh
btw bambi is mafia

[Auro]

VOTE: McQueen

[Auro]

Oh sorry.
VOTE: Scum Reading

[ajfefijsleifjsa]

so glad that Bambi was able to dehumanize us, making us seem like an evil hydra blargadarg
and you guys fell for it. you should be embarrassed.

[ajfefijsleifjsa]

Oh sorry.
VOTE: Scum Reading

this isn’t bambi

[ajfefijsleifjsa]

also everyone else must comment on my claim
do not just silently change your vote

[Auro]

Uh, I buy your claim.
So you're in agreement with BuJaber, you want to lynch Mafia over a possible WW lynch?

[ajfefijsleifjsa]

I don’t actually know the math

[ajfefijsleifjsa]

but WW is definitely gonna shoot me

[brassherald]

but WW is definitely gonna shoot me

If WW shoots you, they lose.

[brassherald]

Unless we lynch mafia today.

[scum reading]

I take it mcqueen was really inactive, but you’re dealing with a different person now, auro. Mcquuen was town, despite what you think. I don’t know what he said that makes him suspicious to you now