Mini Normal 2060: World Architecture [Endgame]

[Slaxx]

Pers did some early game distancing with Worm but never followed up on a vote until the L-1.

It's a troll account. What kind of interactions do you expect? I took it as a policy lynch, and I'm a known supporter of D1 PLs on unreadables unless there's an obv scum.

That’s great but if you’re that big of a fan I find it mildly convienient that you were on the back end of his wagon while being earlier on the others.

I'm not a fan of PLs early, before we've gotten information from the day.

Bunk.

You could have circled back if you were that big of a fan of PLs.

I’m not going to buy that your last post before the worm wagon started and your L-1 was the difference between “early” and long enough.

[Persivul]

Yeah...you're criticizing me for taking him from L-2 to L-1 without getting a claim. That's standard procedure on this site. WTF? You get a claim AFTER the L-1.

[Slaxx]

I’ve seen claims with an L-1 vote and claims with intent to hammer. That’s far from the main point I’m making any way and was a response to Jibrils thought process.

[Persivul]

I’ve seen claims with an L-1 vote and claims with intent to hammer.

Yep, and you're criticizing me for not waiting for a claim when he was at L-2.

That’s far from the main point I’m making any way and was a response to Jibrils thought process.

Yes, your main point is that I lacked interaction with and analysis on a joke account, yet voted it.

Did all the other 6 people on the wagon have such interaction and analysis? I haven't looked, but I really doubt it, because it's Dr Worm FFS.

[Slaxx]

when jib is on, i want her to answer my question - why did you vote me
i also still cant tell why fl is voting me...

im getting more and more uneasy about how emp/mohab have been mia

This is lurker hunting without even committing to it which is lol

My thought process is if two-three of the lurkers/ less experienced players are scum this is probably a win and if I’m wagoned for defending them that’s fine.

What have Mohab and Emp done that’s actually AI? Are you insinuating that activity is AI for both of them or either of them?

[Slaxx]

I’ve seen claims with an L-1 vote and claims with intent to hammer.

Yep, and you're criticizing me for not waiting for a claim when he was at L-2.

That’s far from the main point I’m making any way and was a response to Jibrils thought process.

Yes, your main point is that I lacked interaction with and analysis on a joke account, yet voted it.

Did all the other 6 people on the wagon have such interaction and analysis? I haven't looked, but I really doubt it, because it's Dr Worm FFS.

You put him at L-1 and didn’t ask for a claim. I get why it’s not the same as hammering without a claim but you’re still taking the risk of an lolhammer without prompting him. Once again, not the main point. The main point is...

Not to the degree you did, I looked. I think I might have came in a close second because I asked PP if we were lynching him because he was scum or just annoying.

I still don’t buy this narrative that you are a big supporter of policy lynches and then never really pushed Worm again until the wagon formed. That’s the main issue we were talking about,

particularly when that action was reciprocated by Worm as well

. It looks like classic distancing.

[Slaxx]

Just realized you said on the wagon.

I ISO’d everyone. Yours stuck out the most, because there was distancing both ways.

[Persivul]

You put him at L-1 and didn’t ask for a claim. I get why it’s not the same as hammering without a claim but you’re still taking the risk of an lolhammer without prompting him. Once again, not the main point. The main point is...

Not to the degree you did, I looked. I think I might have came in a close second because I asked PP if we were lynching him because he was scum or just annoying.

Yep, I noticed that. You apparently didn't like votes on him, you didn't vote him yourself, and he flipped scum.

I still don’t buy this narrative that you are a big supporter of policy lynches and then never really pushed Worm again until the wagon formed.

Here you go:
viewtopic.php?p=10683123#p10683123

You can always reinvent yourself as scum and you always need to be doing stuff that people won't point to recent scum experiences and be like HEY HE DID THAT AS SCUM.

That said I went undefeated as scum in 2018 while only actually trying in one game and pretty much just lurking the rest of them so you can get away with that even.

Rolling scum is like pressing the easy button

It's easy to win as scum if you play scummy when town. People will look at meta, say

he always plays that way,

and let it go. And there seems to be a trend toward that.

People like that should be policy lynched

, vigged, or investigated.

Unfortunately, towns have gotten away from those things.

So, now game developers are making town-sided setups.

Really, towns should just go back to fundamentals, and those fundamentals should be taught in newbies.

A post from January showing that I think people who don't try to obvtown should be PL'd, AND I noted that towns generally don't go for PLs which explains why I don't push for them.

I know you're still not going to buy it because you're stubborn, but I didn't make that post in January so I could use it now.

[Persivul]

Just realized you said on the wagon.

I ISO’d everyone. Yours stuck out the most, because there was distancing both ways.

Interesting. You're arguing that I'm scummy because I bused my partner without making a big push on him - i.e. in a way that

wouldn't

get me much town cred anyway.

What was my scum motivation for that?

I get that if I were on the beginning of the wagon, you could say it was distancing gone bad, and as the wagon took off I couldn't think of a way to reasonably get off it.

Were you the one telling other people their analysis was superficial?

[Persivul]

I guess WOTM wasn't in effect...

Wormie, are you like this at night too?

Slaxx, when you ISO'd me, did you catch the point of this post?

[Slaxx]

Just realized you said on the wagon.

I ISO’d everyone. Yours stuck out the most, because there was distancing both ways.

Interesting. You're arguing that I'm scummy because I bused my partner without making a big push on him - i.e. in a way that

wouldn't

get me much town cred anyway.

What was my scum motivation for that?

I get that if I were on the beginning of the wagon, you could say it was distancing gone bad, and as the wagon took off I couldn't think of a way to reasonably get off it.

Were you the one telling other people their analysis was superficial?

Bussing and distancing are different and you know that.

You can throw a vanity vote (like DW did with you) to distance. That’s an interaction I think is SvS indicative. Especially when it is paired with throwing shade at Enter and Chenn while not pressuring you. I feel like I’ve been over this multiple times now. It’s the dissonance with the vote from Worm and lack of push that indicates distancing.

Being on a scum wagon is probably better than not being on, as evidenced by the narrative cropping up today that there’s more likely 0 scum on the wagon than 2. So yes, you get towncred for that.

[Slaxx]

I guess WOTM wasn't in effect...

Wormie, are you like this at night too?

Slaxx, when you ISO'd me, did you catch the point of this post?

Looked like distancing. I’m open to your explanation.

Also you probably have me pegged as stubborn, but don’t write the discussion off like I can’t change my mind. This needs to happen.

[Flavor Leaf]

UNVOTE: Sheep

Why?

:shrug: don’t think he’s scum anymore. The gamestate progressed in a way where I can see his actions coming from a town mindset.

[Slaxx]

UNVOTE: Sheep

Why?

:shrug: don’t think he’s scum anymore. The gamestate progressed in a way where I can see his actions coming from a town mindset.

Can you get more specific? These types of posts are killing me.

[Flavor Leaf]

I would like a Night with my neighbor, please.

Us conversing there, and then talking to Tchill about it afterwards is a great usage, I believe.

@Persovil - you can bring more people in with us, right?

[Flavor Leaf]

UNVOTE: Sheep

Why?

:shrug: don’t think he’s scum anymore. The gamestate progressed in a way where I can see his actions coming from a town mindset.

Can you get more specific? These types of posts are killing me.

I will when i figure out how to put it into words.

[Persivul]

I guess WOTM wasn't in effect...

Wormie, are you like this at night too?

Slaxx, when you ISO'd me, did you catch the point of this post?

Looked like distancing. I’m open to your explanation.

Also you probably have me pegged as stubborn, but don’t write the discussion off like I can’t change my mind. This needs to happen.

I'm a neighborizer. I can talk to people at night. I asked him if he kept up the persona at night. I was considering targeting him for the hood, but needed some indication that I wouldn't be wasting the shot. He didn't give any such indication. Hopefully it's obvious that if we were scum buddies I wouldn't waste a hood shot on him.

[Persivul]

I would like a Night with my neighbor, please.

Us conversing there, and then talking to Tchill about it afterwards is a great usage, I believe.

@Persovil - you can bring more people in with us, right?

One more, but they won't come in until N3.

[Persivul]

Does that mean you're thinking Tchill for the third?

[Emperor flippyNips]

Couple pages behind catching up today

[Sad Sheep]

can we get a votecount

thank you

[Flavor Leaf]

I would like a Night with my neighbor, please.

Us conversing there, and then talking to Tchill about it afterwards is a great usage, I believe.

@Persovil - you can bring more people in with us, right?

One more, but they won't come in until N3.

Yeah, Tchill’s good.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think it’s be funny to have him paranoid of us being scum and inviting him

[northsidegal]

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[northsidegal]

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