Open 62 - Strawberry Mafia - Game Over! before 568

[Eldritch Lord]

You haven't been dodging others, that point was in regards to Xtoxm.

And its a bit suspicious if you interrogate others without ever answering a question yourself.

[Cephrir]

Oh. Well explain "baseless votes" and "tons of fluff" then. I want examples, especially the former since you'll be hard pressed to come up with one.

Your second point makes no sense, you said I wasn't the one dodging questions. And no, it's not suspicious, it's scumhunting.

[Eldritch Lord]

Since dodging questions while interrogating others is such a good thing, I believe I will do just that by not providing you with any of the examples you want?

Now do you see why I don't like Xtoxm?

[neko2086]

Bahhhh. I wanted to hear more from james.

I wouldn't say xtoxm is harmless, and I don't think his lynch would be a great loss, but I still think snix is more likely to be scum. I've posted an entire case stating why, and if somebody would like to address it to convince me otherwise, please do, because so far nobody has (other than snix, somewhat) and I haven't changed my mind or forgot about it.

As I said before, there are a few instances that make me feel that xtoxm is more pro-town:
Post 26- discourages cop-hunting discussion
Ecto claims- switches vote whereas Snix doesn’t
Most recent posts- is starting to give actual content… sometimes…

And that’s all I’ve got really. The rest is not impressive. I still prefer lynching Snix today, but if everyone insists, I won’t be opposed to an xtoxm-lynch. It would actually be beneficial to know his alignment.

[Cephrir]

Since dodging questions while interrogating others is such a good thing, I believe I will do just that by not providing you with any of the examples you want?

Now do you see why I don't like Xtoxm?

I never said that was a good thing. You just said I wasn't dodging questions. Interrogating is good, dodging questions is bad. If I actually need to explain this to you then we are going to have a problem. And no, you will provide me with examples because otherwise your accusations are baseless. You can't say my accusations are baseless and expect to get away with not providing reasons yourself. Y'sure it's not just that you can't find any examples?

[Cephrir]

I wanted to hear more from James, too; he was my second suspect and his successor is not helping him any.

[Eldritch Lord]

You can't say my accusations are baseless and expect to get away with not providing reasons yourself. Y'sure it's not just that you can't find any examples?

Why have you not been on Xtoxm's case for exactly the same reason? Simply because you believed Snix was scum as well? That does not make his baseless votes okay, it's still scummy and I have yet to see you call him out on it. Anyways, my vote for him stands, and I will re-read you to see if I can find any more substance to your posts.

At any rate, at least the game is moving now.

[ShadowLurker]

SL and perfect are finally out of their personal vendetta's (read: Near OMGUS-arguments with slight fact here and there [reminds me of FOX News]) with each other--that's a good thing.

Um what are you talking about; perfect NEVER suspected me so how could we be OMGUSing each other.

[Eldritch Lord]

I meant OMGUS without the vote, like as in I hate you, so I hate you too.

Perhaps I should have said emotional posting. Sorry for the error.

[Cephrir]

Why have you not been on Xtoxm's case for exactly the same reason?

Because he always makes baseless accusations, so it's not a tell.

That does not make his baseless votes okay, it's still scummy and I have yet to see you call him out on it.

It is not scummy, but it is also not okay.

Also, you have still failed to provide said examples. Your 706 COMPLETELY dodged my question. The irony.

[Eldritch Lord]

The irony I specifically mentioned, I want you to know what you've been letting Xtoxm get away with this entire game.

[Cephrir]

Your point has been made; now answer me.

[Xtoxm]

My votes are not baseless, nor are my accusations. I always have reasons for what I do.

[ShadowLurker]

I meant OMGUS without the vote, like as in I hate you, so I hate you too.

Perhaps I should have said emotional posting. Sorry for the error.

Uh I find perfect scummy, and I have clearly outlined my reasons why. It seems that you are trying to downplay my suspicions.

[Eldritch Lord]

My votes are not baseless, nor are my accusations. I always have reasons for what I do.

Expanding upon them publicly is important to the Town (since you are not cop--you have no reason to keep your suspicions hidden, especially throughout the entire game) if you do not do so, you are allowing people you view as scum to get away without getting even close to a lynch. This shows non-dedications and defeats the purpose of voting for them unless you're just bandwagon jumping--in which case failing to display your reasoning is an extremely suspicious move.

[Eldritch Lord]

I meant OMGUS without the vote, like as in I hate you, so I hate you too.

Perhaps I should have said emotional posting. Sorry for the error.

Uh I find perfect scummy, and I have clearly outlined my reasons why. It seems that you are trying to downplay my suspicions.

I still felt that you were losing the focus of the Town (it seems like you and perfect are almost playing your own game there for a while), and bringing you back into the mainstream was a good move on Snix's part.

[Cephrir]

Your point has been made; now answer me.

[Scigatt]

Sorry for not posting in a while.

Hmm...as to the innocence of Xtoxm, I picked up sometime at the end of D1 that it was probably a playstyle issue instead. I should probably have looked a bit more into it, but I suggest the EL do a bit of meta on Xtoxm, as that is one of the things that seems to clear him.

What do you think of the other players in this game, EL?

Mod, can we get a prod or replacement on perfect?

[Eldritch Lord]

Your point has been made; now answer me.

I don't think you understand, the point of the entire accusation was to call you out on supporting xtoxm (or more generally, someone I think is scum), so that if you are scum/scumpair you'll hopefully be more cautious in the future about aligning with his baseless accusations and perhaps even do a re-read of his crappy contributions to this game to find that out of all the scum suspects he is probably the best, because even if he is Town (read: I don't think he is) we aren't losing a good townie in the slightest. My vote may change depending on re-reads/newer events.

I suppose now I can

unFoS: Cephrir

since this has all been explained (hopefully thoroughly enough so that there will be no confusion as to my intention). More coming on other players soon, Scigatt.

[ShadowLurker]

I meant OMGUS without the vote, like as in I hate you, so I hate you too.

Perhaps I should have said emotional posting. Sorry for the error.

Uh I find perfect scummy, and I have clearly outlined my reasons why. It seems that you are trying to downplay my suspicions.

I still felt that you were losing the focus of the Town (it seems like you and perfect are almost playing your own game there for a while), and bringing you back into the mainstream was a good move on Snix's part.

All my suspicions had been clearly laid out.

FoS: EL

especially if perfect is scum.

[Cephrir]

I don't think you understand, the point of the entire accusation was to call you out on supporting xtoxm

So basically, what you're saying is that when you said this:

Baseless votes with tons of fluff in your posts.

And this:

And its a bit suspicious if you interrogate others without ever answering a question yourself.

And this:

Since dodging questions while interrogating others is such a good thing, I believe I will do just that by not providing you with any of the examples you want?

You were.... lying? Aaaaand....why?

[Eldritch Lord]

Scroll up.

[Cephrir]

I saw that. Were you making shit up or weren't you?

[Eldritch Lord]

If I was, would I admit it?

Of course not, now you can believe me or not, but in either case this conversation is pointless. Waiting to hear from some inactives still.

[Cephrir]

No, it's not pointless. Were you or were you not making up suspicious things I'd done that I actually hadn't, and if not, provide some examples.