Mini 2063 - Rapier Upick Shuffle [Game Over]
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Why's that?In post 45, Reality Check wrote:I hope your slot rolled town enter
Oh, I'd also like to preface any further posting with this: We have specifically discussed keeping our post count low, particularly because Enter has a remarkably high post count, especially as town, and Taly does not want to clog the game thread with hydra posts. Enter would like to say he wanted to sign up for this game particularly because this is a particularly strong player list and that he would love to post more at this point in time because he is very excited to be playing with a lot of the people here.-
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Give me some lip and I'll give you some flavor.
@Reality
We aren't signing much if at all this game, but +1 to your posting.
Any thoughts over the loop?In post 31, Michael Scott wrote:You broke it, Brigitte.
It was Implosion <- Brigitte <- Fractured <- Michael Scott.
You made it a loop! Unless you go back and vote Implosion again. And Lovebird votes us, so the chain can continue.
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Where's that vote Vars?
I'm confident in my answers, but I don't want to out you two if you don't want to sign.In post 58, Reality Check wrote:Hi Taly!!!
have you already guessed who made each post in this hydra so far?
Why haven't you responded to or questioned 15?
Also, both heads are new to not signing... so 1st and 3rd person may be present in posts.
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See your body into the moonlightIn post 67, Varsoon wrote:Who should I be voting and why?
And I got the rapier that has no blade, so I can't vote.
Even if I try to cancel
All the pictures into my eyes
Don't you see my condition?
The fiction is gonna run it again
Can't you see now illusions?
Right into your mindIn post 66, Fractured wrote:Where's that vote Vars?
I'm confident in my answers, but I don't want to out you two if you don't want to sign.In post 58, Reality Check wrote:Hi Taly!!!
have you already guessed who made each post in this hydra so far?
Why haven't you responded to or questioned 15?
Also, both heads are new to not signing... so 1st and 3rd person may be present in posts.
@Brigitte
Is that Micheal vote still RVS?
Don't worry,In post 69, Reality Check wrote:
we are committing to not signing because our posting styles are different enough for it to be redundant to sign our postsIn post 66, Fractured wrote:Where's that vote Vars?
I'm confident in my answers, but I don't want to out you two if you don't want to sign.In post 58, Reality Check wrote:Hi Taly!!!
have you already guessed who made each post in this hydra so far?
Why haven't you responded to or questioned 15?
Also, both heads are new to not signing... so 1st and 3rd person may be present in posts.
@Brigitte
Is that Micheal vote still RVS?
how do you know I haven't?read your posts, Alyssa.I-
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I think this is Ank, then.In post 69, Reality Check wrote: we are committing to not signing because our posting styles are different enough for it to be redundant to sign our posts
how do you know I haven't?
I haven't seen a post about you addressing the post, so I was wondering if you'd give any thoughts around it.
Our hydra not signing is more of a tool for us to read the game better.
@Vars
How about you add to the chain of votes and see where it takes us?
lol this makes me think it's town vars off first glanceIn post 70, Varsoon wrote:Okay, that's a lie, I can totally vote, I am a freaking sword, alright.
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oof, this isnt even a large game and we're at page 11.
theTalyhead will be a bit more when Spring Break starts, which for me, is after tomorrow, but I got some essays to do.
I wantedIn post 79, Varsoon wrote:Why is there a chain in this game
it is rapier game
not chaingame
but seriously explainBrigandMSto digress on their approach to RVS and the popcorn voting strategy.
Let's not inject personal feelings here.In post 90, mbaki wrote:mm
VOTE: Alonzo
I think I'll just stay in the game and vote park here until one of us dies.
Also, I'm not following your thought process in your other posts when I'm skimming.
you state that some of reality's posts are bad but then stateAnkcan obvtown, and so you leave it at that... while you dismiss theMastinahead. 95
you note the quickwagon onimploand says it doesn't warrant 3 votes there. 109
So why do you voteRealityin 110, and then shift your vote toImplowhenRCdoesn't agree in 111 and 112?
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Not vibing with the scumreads onRealityorImplosion.
Ankfeels like how she was in MC, but I don't want to rely on meta, specifically because she's in a hydra as well.
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I'm directing this post toAnk, but it's also a bit of an announcement.
Ank, you're pushing to engage withTalyand scumreadingEnter'sposts but you're not prompting much discussion, or looking at why we're not signing.
Nobody is stopping you from askingTalyspecific questions. I'm right here.
My meta is not the same as it is when I'm in a hydra versus my solo, regardless of alignment.Enter/Iagreed for it to be ambiguous whose postingwhen the hydra was createdso it would be easier for us to read the game. Nobody would be placing too much attention to one head over the other, and the two of us would have equal voice as a slot. This is also to help us read how people ARE reading us, as that can help us gauge their alignment.
We're both working to have our posting styles mesh better.(I'm failing hardcore at this, but I'm doing this intentionally for the post.)
If one of us bolds names in a post, or posts a GIF - it's not 100% a head until it's confirmed.
If it helps your read on this slot AND to ask BOTH heads questions ~Taly-specific posts thus far have been 52, 66, 78, and 259
I want to go without signing for a bit longer to see how this approach helps or detriments our gamesolving, so I don't want this to be a trend.
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ugh its 9 PM, i have appointment at 8 tomorrow, i havent showered yet...
first-impressions before i go
Implo, Reality, MS, Brighave given me some townvibes.
RC/Varsgive me townpings but I want to look more at them first.
need to readGL, Alonzo, RC, mbaki and Parmmore
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I'm going to speak withEntertomorrow about reads so we can be a tad more cohesive, and look deeper at what I've skimmed
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oh cool, something to help me read and evaluate later
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omg i need to stop looking at this thread
Enterand I are trying to find a balance atm,ank
I townread you, and I'd like for you to engage with both heads even if there's ambiguity on the slot.
now for real night
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why not, when there's good wagon potential here?RadiantCowbells wrote:fractured is on my radar. not gonna vote for them rn.-
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Alright I'm breaking post style for this one post because I need to share thoughts and the restriction isn't working for me to be able to push the game like I want to or need to.
This isn't a real appearance because Taly and I are still working a lot of things out. We are on at exactly opposite times, apparently, so as soon as the weekend hits, hopefully things will change.
I feel personally disconnected from the game and that sucks for me because I really like our role. I don't know if it's because I've been performing poorly in mafia recently, because I'm particularly excited about this player list, or because I was limited in my interactions during RVS due to posting restrictions and start times. I'm still very interested in fixing/changing some specific aspects of my game, so I definitely intend on returning to form after this, but the game also needs to be won, so...
1. Guilty Lion is probably scum. I don't like the minimal activity and involvement from him after I felt like I melded minds with him during marathon weekend. The laziness of this tunnel is not on par with what I expect from him.
2. Parmesan is likely town. I very much like their posts, their aggressiveness, and their awkwardness. It feels very townie to me, I trust them with probably strongest town read in the game.
3. I don't like Brigitte backing off of RC... but circumstances are weird. My specific views on plays surrounding fake replace-outs can be found elsewhere, I believe, and aren't particularly game indicative, but Brigitte felt super awkward there.
4. RC is probably town. He seems to be legitimately trying to solve the game and it's really nice to see, actually.
5. Varsoon I called you scum earlier and you didn't respond. Why not? Engage me.
6.Reality Check is Reality Check and will be sorted later.
7. I relatively recently lost a newbie game because I discounted a player as too scummy to be scum. These are four consecutive posts in Mbaki's ISO:Our vote is not currently anywhere, and I really like it here:
VOTE: mbaki
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Spoiler: large nice pic :D
RadiantCowbells- 272,TalythinksReality-scum would be much harsher in pushing a meta/tell-based read on our slot, and seeing the hydra consistently push thoughts forth in the thread feels a lot like town-them. It's not a very confident read, but it's what he's thought so far.
GuiltyLion- We've both agreed on the townreads aroundImplosionandReality.(We're still thinking about MS.Enterisn't townreadingBrig, andTaly'sread on her as become less confident.)
However, while there are plenty of votes being thrown around and considerably few reads in comparison, your vote has remained on us since the beginning of the game. In fact, even while you've entertained suspicion and scumreads on other people, you haven't moved from us or added anything around stating a scumread on us. This particularly fascinatesEnterwho thought he had mind-melded with you in marathon mafia. He certainly expects more from this slot.
Talywants to rereadParmat the moment, but doesn't understand the reasoning behind the votes on them, and agrees withEnteron his approach to the game. It doesn't feel survivalistic, and he's bringing up multiple points in his posts that are geared directly toward gamesolving.
mbakiis a scumread for both heads. We don't follow the thought process around his votes.
529 - You ignoredTalymaking an assessment and questioning you in 259, and you've given 0 explanation or thought around your response onEnter'slatest post.
You've thrown a lot of votes but aren't going in depth on your scumreads, so it doesn't feel like you're motivated to work with the playerlist. In addition, you have a relatively high post count, butEnterthinks that you're trying to get a lot of town points for being in the thread without doing anything particularly townie, or building on townreads and scumreads.
Alonzo- Neither of us feel strongly on them, they've posted and haven't added much to the game,Talywants to look at him tomorrow when he has more time,Enterlikes that the slot seems to be playing strangely and drawing attention, and both of us want to see more content.
Varsoon-TalyandEnterslightly conflict with a read here.Talyhas a townlean onVars, his opening post feels tonally town, and he's voicing reads that don't follow the current wagons, which isn't like him as scum. However, he feels less passionate at the moment.Enterquoted the lyrics to Deja Vu by Initial D in reference to the fact thatVarsoonwas doing the same thing he was doing in Prey, but it was mostly in response to him being voteless.Enteris rather null on the slot at the moment.
implosion- What do you think about all of the wagons that have occurred in the game thus far?Enterthinks this slot made a strong entrance, but would like an explanation on why theFracturedwagon was"hot garbage"in 165, as well as discussion on awkwardness as town and scum.(In reference toimplosion's post aboutAlonzo.)
Lovebird- Very absent, neither of us feel much about them. We have the same sentiment withJohnnyand we don't have meta or reason to think it's AI.
~ Taly and Enter-
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Ho,In post 668, Brigitte wrote:Ive been loosely following this and I am not getting much reading.
Need a jam session with some people here.
Anyone on?Brigitte!What ails you?-
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Same to you.In post 673, Reality Check wrote:btw enter obvtown for me ok?-
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We'd like to know your read on Alonzo, that is separate from people just entertaining that he could be scum.In post 640, implosion wrote:Gotta say reality check is like a ridiculously bad choice of person to fake dayvig?
@taly, I don’t even remember what I was referring to with the hot garbage comment. I think I just didn’t really like any votes in particular or smth. Not sure what else it is you’re asking.
Also, we haven't seen much rationale behind our votes, can you discuss yours and your thoughts around our wagon?
I figured this would be a bit more exciting...
Kittybells didn't vote us.
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Nothing about this indicates scum.In post 685, implosion wrote:Michael Scott’s activity pattern so far feels scummy. I also don’t like their posts in the past two pages especially much.
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A lot of people are voteparking or jumping around without any resolution to their reads.... assuming they have them.
Parmdoesn't feel like scum at all looking through his ISO. He's showing a larger depth of thought in his reads than a lot of people in the game, and I like his questioning.
I don't trust the scumreads on them as much as I don't trust that several people in this game aren't pushing townreads.
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This is a boring response.In post 641, mbaki wrote:the thread was boring me
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So with you being OK with votingIn post 657, Lovebird wrote:
The game's only been two daysIn post 631, Fractured wrote:Lovebird - Very absent, neither of us feel much about them. We have the same sentiment with Johnny and we don't have meta or reason to think it's AI.
Fractured could be scum. Last two posts are bad.GL/Alonzo/Parm, and finding thatMS'posts are scummy without reason, us"could be"scum now means you have 5 scumreads and are willing to vote them.
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I'm feeling similarly and I think the other head does too.In post 699, Michael Scott wrote:
Yeah, on my occasional visit to the thread I noticed this. Like nearly 30 pages and no real wagons being pushed.In post 695, Fractured wrote:A lot of people are voteparking or jumping around without any resolution to their reads.... assuming they have them.
Hence the questions to people to back up with their thought processes, and give me something to evaluate.
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So you're using meta for them? I find the suspicion on them to be thoroughly unconvincing.Brigitte wrote:I am trying to be able to tell if Auro is posting or Volxen is posting (this helps me dissect thought patterns better).
Are the latest posts from Volxen?
That is what I was thinking.
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This hydra had dozens of posts since last night, so I don't get your point.Alonzo wrote:
So you have a dozen posts and that's our fault somehow?In post 699, Michael Scott wrote:
Yeah, on my occasional visit to the thread I noticed this. Like nearly 30 pages and no real wagons being pushed.In post 695, Fractured wrote:A lot of people are voteparking or jumping around without any resolution to their reads.... assuming they have them.
Hence the questions to people to back up with their thought processes, and give me something to evaluate.
Also, you have half-dozen posts that revolve around directly gamesolving and stating your positions. You have several people pushing votes on you but you haven't engaged, why?-
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I can see it both ways. There's not a lot of force or explanation behind the votes so there's not much reason to engage.In post 710, Michael Scott wrote:
I think the lack of concern over being shaded/wagoned is town indicative to an extent, what do you think?In post 706, Fractured wrote:You have several people pushing votes on you but you haven't engaged, why?
Are any of these votes AI to you?In post 711, Alonzo wrote:Barely
RCs push/suspicion of me came out of nowhere and is yet unclarified despite him having plenty of games with me to build a meta based case.
Eddie is policy an transparent
Parma is unfounded, not backed up
LB is seeping RC
Are there more?
Not vibing with thisIn post 719, implosion wrote:Like I mentioned I’m on phone (also not a ton of time to look closely at stuff) until Saturday evening. So not gonna explain anything in depth til then. In the mean time, you can assume any thought process anyone is asking about has an answer of “I did it on a whim”.
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Do you have an opinion on Michael - who they and Implo are stating is scum/scummy?In post 723, Brigitte wrote: Okay, I don't really have an opinion on the genuineness of lovebird posts right now..
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Can people explain their mbaki townread?
And Varsoon scumread?
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Respond to my post above.In post 739, Varsoon wrote:I've read less than 1/5 the posts in this game.
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Thoughts on mbaki. You haven't posted any, as far as I'm aware.In post 748, Varsoon wrote:I can't make the first move if I can't vote.
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I like his aggressiveness and the way he's playing seems like he's pushing for a solve.In post 851, RadiantCowbells wrote:Does anyone townread parmigiano
Can they explain why
Parmigiana how do you feel about my push on you?
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You didn't absolve your read on us in 806, where you stated a reason to townread and a reason to scumread usIn post 811, GuiltyLion wrote:
this is a tremendously bad post, for the recordIn post 688, Michael Scott wrote:ISO skim leaves me with a strong townread on Fractured.
1. RVS mindmeld on townreads - I'd imagine scum would pick apart and attack one of the RVS posters, I was expecting to be called awkward for it.
2. 528 and 631 - Clear, transparent stances on things early in the game without any real need to. +town indicative.
1 - everybody knows faking townreads as scum is easy. It also feels like unnatural/forced reasoning - "they're not playing how in this specific manner I would expect scum to play, therefore they're town"
2 - there was definite need to, because several people were scumreading them and voting them. like you're giving them town credit for doing something that either alignment would want to do to look town.
I have to think a townie - especially players of Auro/volxen caliber - would see that a scum!Fractured could fake this level of content so far and would have more paranoia than a "strong townread" after an ISO skim.this feels like a fabricated townread because they already decided previously that they didn't want to scumread Fractured slot
VOTE: Michael Scott(based mostly on a read conflict and a line, even though you were telling people you wanted to sell them on voting us, but you didn't follow up on that at all. 486Enterhas said as scum)
What changed from this point?
When this hydra noted you've kept your vote on us, you voteMSover how fabricated you deem his townread onusto be, one of the few people who has resisted the scumreads here.(I believe its validity becauseVarsandJohnnyare only other people I've seen state one)MS-scum has nothing to gain from that post.
So I don't understand your points onMSfabricating a townread.Auro/Volxenboth don't have a lot of first-hand experience with either head, so why do you expect them to know we WOULD be scum?
You don't evaluate the post links of this hydra thatMSmade to back-up his townread. 528 631
The bolded is an assumptionMShad planned to townread us prior to that post, off what basis?
BecauseMSisn't paranoid enough over our slot?
VOTE: GuiltyLion
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In post 848, Varsoon wrote:It's still implosion, folks.Talywould like more than this.
Responding to any post outside discussing a few people would greatly improve people's perception of you this game.
What do you think aboutImplosion'srecent posts?
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Can you explain yourIn post 851, RadiantCowbells wrote:Does anyone townread parmigiano
Can they explain why
Parmigiana how do you feel about my push on you?Parmscumread?
I feel like both heads have touched up on this. 528 631 695 854
However, I disagree with my other head that people agree with us, given the recent pages.
Probably tonight, tomorrow at the latest - when both heads can post - we'll outline our reads onParmbecause we're not feeling the scumreads there.
Alonzois a little less in read confidence forTalyhead, but both heads aren't feeling a lynch there, we plan to look focus our read there as well.
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Still don't see the case here.In post 834, implosion wrote:Consider my vote on Michael Scott.
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Furthermore, I'd likembakito do something aside from dodging the posts from this hydra.
And I wantMSto digress on his current vote.
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Reality Check wrote:Taly what are your current reads?
I don't care about reasoning atm just what they are and relatively how strong they areStrong Town:Reality
Moderate Town:MS, RC, Parm, Vars
Slight Town:Alonzo, Brigitte, Implo
Most Conflicted - Discussing W Other Head Too:Johnny
Slight Scum:Lovebird
Moderate Scum:GuiltyLion
Strong Scum:mbaki
Some reads are volatile, and ones I'll be looking at more with my other head - but this is pretty much where I'm at, I distrust the gamestate.-
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Taly on Reality
a lot of it is meta and tone, also because I don't see scum-motivation in your posting.
I thinkAnk'sfocus on this slot is mostly to get a strong understanding of the gamestate, which is very town-indicative of her, as she's looking at a tell that I confirm has validity.
Your reaction to the vig in your post where"you played for both being vigged or it being faked"reinforces my idea that you're coming at this with a town thought process, you're looking at different perspectives in the game and seeing how that lines up to your reads whether you post or explain them.
Still like your opener and progression in hindsight, there's an emphasis placed on solving versus pushing or throwing around scumreads and suspicion.
Not as good at readingMastina, but they seem involved in the game that doesn't revolve around creating a narrative on what people should think of a slot or whether a push needs to occur with someone.
Enterdoesn't follow my read much here, and I'm discussing it with him.
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we will get to you andalonzoin time,johnny
Can you re-link your posts around your scumcase here, so it's easier to follow your thought process? ty
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More of, I want to get the opinion of my other head to help my thinking.JohnnyEnglish wrote:Are you comfortable at this point in time with sharing with the thread what those conflicts are, and why there is a discrepancy in reads between your two heads? Where are you at in the current point in time? Could you describe this a little bit more to us?
Cheers.
I like that you're building townreads and pushing a scumread coherently. I feel iffy about you gathering votes for a lynch whether that's agenda-based or not, and I like your single-minded focus and see your impatience to see flips as likely a town thought process.
You also came into the thread later, and this isn't AI in of itself, but in light of what I stated above, it emphasizes my thoughts.
But that's the thing, I have things I like and feel iffy on, and I think they're NAI or not strongly town or scum either way. I'm working to dispel this.-
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Is this post more like your style
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In post 908, Ankamius wrote:I'm pretty sure Brigitte is town, Taly
Pretty sure you only get three strikes before you're out and that's number four. :3In post 909, Reality Check wrote:In post 908, Ankamius wrote:I'm pretty sure Brigitte is town, Taly
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not feeling as strongly, so can you talk to me about that?In post 909, Reality Check wrote:In post 908, Ankamius wrote:I'm pretty sure Brigitte is town, Taly
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why did i just now 100% connect that you guys are in a hood?@reality
kind of makes me vibe with the mutual townread you guys have,Enterdoesn't agree with me onRealityand we're actively discussing it, but this is my instant thought.
also this feels more likevarstown tonally and want to know why people scumread them, will respond to them in depth later
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I wasn't particularly certain you were serious about that; Noted.In post 922, Brigitte wrote:
My role pm confirms Reality as town btw. I mentioned this in my first few posts if you missed it.In post 919, Fractured wrote:kind of makes me vibe with the mutual townread you guys haveRealityCheckisTaly's strongest town read at the moment anyways and he knows them better than I do, I guess I'm just slower to come around on them.
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I pulled an Alyssa.In post 1046, Enter wrote:I'm useless
But not for long
The Future
Is coming on is coming on is coming on-
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Take me down to the paradise city
Where the grass is green ...
And the walls are so big ifHumpty Dumptyfell off there wouldn't be remains to be found.
I miss the good old walls, haven't seen one of these in a while.
Spoiler: Implosion's "Michael Scott" Case
Please expand on why you think needing people to case their wagons for you is a scum lean? I'm not sure I particularly see the "purely logic based part of it." I definitely see reasoning for this to lean a certain way, but your case didn't particularly sell me on this point and I don't want to put words in your mouth before discussing.
I checked and the votes quoted by Michael Scott here were the third and fourth on the wagon, respectively. How does this affect your read?
Or a very bad one.In post 1102, RadiantCowbells wrote:getting a parm wagon going will be a struggle. that's how you know it's a good wagonIn post 1119, Varsoon wrote:Doesn't really seem to be the case.
You can keep insisting you're town and 'everyone has figured that out' but it's not true in any sense.In post 1120, Varsoon wrote:I get the feeling you don't actually think it's cute and you're just trying to discredit me.In post 1121, Varsoon wrote:Yeah I don't believe you actually find it endearing whatsoever that I'm still pushing you.
I don't like this process from Varsoon.In post 1122, Varsoon wrote:Unless you mean 'cute' in a way that belittles and seeks to make my voice less significant, but, oh, man, that sounds a lot like a scum tactic that would be used to suffocate outlying town voices that are right.
Why does my push on you bother you so much?Someone isn't paying attention.
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It's easy to only use points that support your case and ignore ones that refute it.In post 1135, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Funny because my unpopular scumread in dance was Nancy and we all see how that worked outIn post 1132, Fractured wrote:Or a very bad one.-
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Noted.In post 1138, RadiantCowbells wrote:
My finished games this year have been pretty fucking spectacular thanks.In post 1137, Fractured wrote:
It's easy to only use points that support your case and ignore ones that refute it.In post 1135, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Funny because my unpopular scumread in dance was Nancy and we all see how that worked outIn post 1132, Fractured wrote:Or a very bad one.
I apologize, then, I pushed a similar wagon earlier this year off of a scum read + resistance tell and was wrong, so I might have been projecting slightly.-
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+1In post 1146, Brigitte wrote:Not interested in the parm wagon.
+1In post 1148, Brigitte wrote:Id rather lynch primary scumreads than compromise on something at this moment in time. I think you are too rushed for flips right now.
What is the consequence of apathy? A flip on someone that should have been town read? Doesn't sound like we're getting a much better deal by ending day now to me.In post 1149, JohnnyEnglish wrote:
There's a fine balance between maintaining sufficient game discussion length and needlessly extending day length to the point of apathy.In post 1148, Brigitte wrote:Id rather lynch primary scumreads than compromise on something at this moment in time. I think you are too rushed for flips right now.
I think we're coming close to reaching the latter.
What information do we get on a Parm flip over someone else?In post 1150, JohnnyEnglish wrote:And hence I unilaterally decide that it is in the town's best interests to put a stop to it and move this game forward.
I believe at the current stage of the game, no new and further information can be obtained, and that we are at an impasse.
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Spoiler: Sample of Parmesan's ISO w/ Comments
TL;DR Parmesan has interacted with just about every player in the game, AFAIK and is actively developing and changing reads - even to the point of taking controversial stances and not pushing wagons that are counter to his own over trying to read the player instead. I don't think I saw a single point where I saw Parmesan take the easy way out, and while I mostly skimmed, the posts I didn't quote seemed to be more of the same. Someone please explain to me why they think Parmesan is a decent lynch, because in all honesty he's probably one of the strongest town players here.-
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Taly head will be more present tomorrow. I've been in a somewhat poor mood today.
Some of my reads have shifted a little upon skimming and I want to resolve that, but Parm is not one of them.
I don't feel Parm is scum, I agree with most of my other heads points, and I'm not compromise lynching someone I townread, and especially a mutual townread with my other head.
Make a case about Parm that challenges our thoughts, or tell us why preflip associative reads D1 have any ground here. I'll digress sometime tomorrow if schedule favors me regardless.
Goodnight ^.^ I'd post a GIF but I'm on my phone and it's midnight :/ I should've been in bed 2 hours ago.-
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Actually, you're backwards. Burden of Proof is on the claimant.In post 1338, mbaki wrote:
ooh, another good example! but yours only works the other way around. burden of proof is on the accusing party, not on the defender.In post 1337, Fractured wrote:You're right, the next time someone tries to tell me the earth is flat, I'll just keep my mouth shut because telling them I disagree is the same thought process used to support anti-vacc argument.-
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No, it's not.In post 1341, mbaki wrote:that is what i just said, yes
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