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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:23 pm

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In post 1442, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 1440, Shoshin wrote:Shitty things don't have explanation, MS.
So you're saying your push was random, and had no reason, Shoshin?
RC you have no reason to scumread this?
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:26 pm

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FTR I'm still a lot happier with a hypothetical Saudade lynch than an MS Lynch.

fwiw Shoshin there's no scum motivation in calling you scum with Saudade and lynching him over you

Thats enough for tonight I want to do other things
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:34 pm

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You're townreading URAP and scumreading me now? Why?
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:34 pm

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In post 1443, RadiantCowbells wrote:URAP can you link me to a town game where you show a similar mentality to the one you displayed here regarding rushing the urap lynch
well i wouldn't characterize it as rushing, but rather looking to achieve a lynch at precisely the correct time and speed

I think the closest thing I've got for ya is the branching mafia game I just played. I replaced into a lylo situation, got a read, and then placed the first vote. I'll get it for ya

There is also at least one instance of me arguing that continuing a day rather than lynching with the reads we had would be counter productive because I think that eventually game length becomes scum indicative (for the record, i think 20ish pages of getting reads and 10 pages of lynch haggling is probably the ideal length for town), but I'm not going to dig through all the newbie games to find it. might be more than one time I did that.

Didn't you meta me, already, tho?
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:35 pm

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@rc this is that branching mafia
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:35 pm

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^Yeah but I didn't even have a chance to get in to the game, and your push on me was just PoE so it's a weak equivalence.
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:35 pm

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Basically I think Saudade is scum and I'm not clear on partner
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:36 pm

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In post 1439, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 1436, Shoshin wrote:I'm not ignoring you.
Still haven't explained the shitty push on me.
In post 1440, Shoshin wrote:Shitty things don't have explanation, MS.
RC, does town Shoshin do this?
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:38 pm

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In post 1455, Michael Scott wrote:^Yeah but I didn't even have a chance to get in to the game, and your push on me was just PoE so it's a weak equivalence.
I agree it's basically unrelated

but I have 13 completed games on site, and none of them are this setup

this is the closest thing i can think of. Serious question, How do you think I should have responded to his request?

because i think this is just bullshit shade
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:38 pm

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Town Shoshin is thoughful and meticulous.
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:39 pm

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In post 1453, u r a person 2 wrote:well i wouldn't characterize it as rushing, but rather looking to achieve a lynch at precisely the correct time and speed
I'm saying you can't characterise it this way, URAP.
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:39 pm

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In post 1460, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 1453, u r a person 2 wrote:well i wouldn't characterize it as rushing, but rather looking to achieve a lynch at precisely the correct time and speed
I'm saying you can't characterise it this way, URAP.
oh fuck ya i can

It was game winning then, and it's game winning now. I don't need you to make a post if i can get a poe solve
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:46 pm

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It's game losing.

There's higher scum motivation in doing that than town motivation.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:46 pm

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You're still hard townreading RC, correct?
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:48 pm

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In post 1463, Michael Scott wrote:You're still hard townreading RC, correct?
I am strongly town reading RC, yes

I'd put RC + shoshin at less than 1%
I'd put RC + suade at maybe 5%
RC + you at less than 5%

so yeah, I'm roughly 90% on town RC
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:49 pm

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I think you + shoshin is less than 1%
I think shoshin + suade is 15%, less

I think it's the two of you

why should I feel different?
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:54 pm

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if you are town, it's shoshin + suade
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:57 pm

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tbh I think I've talked myself out of a MS lynch going through that

VOTE: suadade
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:01 pm

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In post 1466, u r a person 2 wrote:if you are town, it's shoshin + suade
You think their 1v1 was fabricated scum theater?
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:02 pm

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In post 1468, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 1466, u r a person 2 wrote:if you are town, it's shoshin + suade
You think their 1v1 was fabricated scum theater?
So when you read my last few posts, what you take away is that I think shoshin + suade is scum theater?
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:03 pm

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what would make you think that?
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:04 pm

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If you think I'm town, you're entertaining the possibility of Sho+Sau -> their interactions would have to be scum theater.
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:04 pm

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like all game long you have been asking me these questions that distort what I'm saying so that you can turn it around

and it's getting tiresome.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:04 pm

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In post 1471, Michael Scott wrote:If you think I'm town, you're entertaining the possibility of Sho+Sau -> their interactions would have to be scum theater.
I think you're scum

what game are you reading
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:05 pm

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I'm sorry if I come across that way. If you feel I've been interacting in bad faith, I'll try changing that.

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