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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:10 am

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In post 174, davesaz wrote:At bottom of 4. Let's see how many can accurately answer this setup/mechanics thing as I catch up.

Judas is an alignment. The card can be used as alignment and have a role added, or it can be used as a role card which makes it vanilla of whatever alignment is chosen.

Each of the 3 possible setups was an independent draw with a full deck. Cards can duplicate across the 3 setups, but cannot duplicate within a setup. We're playing setup C (some say 3). If you're gonna counter somone be certain it's using a card from the role you actually got for the game.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:11 am

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Some things are bothering me.
First of all:
In post 22, Elsa Jay wrote:I like living. Pretty simple. Besides, it was more boring then my other draws.
For someone that likes living, making early threats and claiming vig guarantees you die sooner rather than later.
Then also:
In post 82, Elsa Jay wrote:I couldn't be scum so I got the next best thing.
If he likes playing mafia why claim judas which makes him less likely to be lynched and win con changed as a result?

It's like some dissonance, but i may overthinking things or not understand Elsa's playstyle at all, can someone tell me if im overthinking things, preferably, someone not named Shadow.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:15 am

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In post 176, Sakura Hana wrote:Some things are bothering me.
First of all:
In post 22, Elsa Jay wrote:I like living. Pretty simple. Besides, it was more boring then my other draws.
For someone that likes living, making early threats and claiming vig guarantees you die sooner rather than later.
Then also:
In post 82, Elsa Jay wrote:I couldn't be scum so I got the next best thing.
If he likes playing mafia why claim judas which makes him less likely to be lynched and win con changed as a result?

It's like some dissonance, but i may overthinking things or not understand Elsa's playstyle at all, can someone tell me if im overthinking things, preferably, someone not named Shadow.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:19 am

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Tbh I just wanted the Judas as a substitute Unlynchable to use in a dire circumstance. But this set up can be hugely townsided so I want to win as town.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:20 am

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In post 163, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 119, Elsa Jay wrote:VT is a safe ass claim with 12 of them around, Ele. And you could have had the same effect if you'd have tossed Judas instead. So you are a liar.
Btw, funny is that i could also have discarded wrong place at the wrong time townie and also gotten the same combination i currently have.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:22 am

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Not many scum would claim a Universal Miller, Dave, but yeah.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:23 am

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In post 175, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 174, davesaz wrote:At bottom of 4. Let's see how many can accurately answer this setup/mechanics thing as I catch up.

Judas is an alignment. The card can be used as alignment and have a role added, or it can be used as a role card which makes it vanilla of whatever alignment is chosen.

Each of the 3 possible setups was an independent draw with a full deck. Cards can duplicate across the 3 setups, but cannot duplicate within a setup. We're playing setup C (some say 3). If you're gonna counter somone be certain it's using a card from the role you actually got for the game.
im missing the question here?
During page 4 there were several incorrect posts about the mechanics, which I'm correcting in my post.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:25 am

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In post 181, davesaz wrote:
In post 175, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
In post 174, davesaz wrote:At bottom of 4. Let's see how many can accurately answer this setup/mechanics thing as I catch up.

Judas is an alignment. The card can be used as alignment and have a role added, or it can be used as a role card which makes it vanilla of whatever alignment is chosen.

Each of the 3 possible setups was an independent draw with a full deck. Cards can duplicate across the 3 setups, but cannot duplicate within a setup. We're playing setup C (some say 3). If you're gonna counter somone be certain it's using a card from the role you actually got for the game.
im missing the question here?
During page 4 there were several incorrect posts about the mechanics, which I'm correcting in my post.
ohhh thatd be helpful
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:26 am

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In post 178, Elsa Jay wrote:Tbh I just wanted the Judas as a substitute Unlynchable to use in a dire circumstance. But this set up can be hugely townsided so I want to win as town.
Claiming it early does not jive with wanting it for a dire circumstance. I think this one is actually a lie and not just truth that looks like a lie. However I agree with being risk adverse, so lynching into it especially on day 1 is a bad move.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:51 am

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Wait I don't understand. If you can only choose Judas as alignment, then it doesn't work? Or Judas is an alignment by itself and not a role? If we lynch Elsa he will become mafia or what?
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:55 am

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In post 184, pinturicchio wrote:Wait I don't understand. If you can only choose Judas as alignment, then it doesn't work? Or Judas is an alignment by itself and not a role? If we lynch Elsa he will become mafia or what?
STOP you are confusing yourself, Judas is tow by default, which means that if you pick it for your wlignmen you are town but don't have the judas power, so you won't become Judas

I think that's the correct way to look at it @micc correct me if I'm wrong
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:57 am

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Judas is used as an ability would be Vanilla, using it as the ALIGNMENT means I have the Judas effect. I know it's a weird card but it's not THAT hard.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:57 am

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In post 157, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 153, JunkoChan wrote:I like pineapple pizza
PL worthy imo.
wow, scum line imo
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:57 am

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If you take Judas as Alignment you are Town until you are lynched then you are Mafia. If you take it as a role you are a Vanilla whatever-alignment-you-chose.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:58 am

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This setup is confusing,
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:00 am

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this doesn't make sense because I picked 2 "roles" but only got the power of the second one, is it a judas only mechanic?
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:03 am

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Agreed.

P-edit: No, everyone gets the alignment of one card and the ability of the other.

Like if you took Town Cop for Alignment and Mafia Roleblocker for your ability then you would be a Town Roleblocker.

Judas card doesn’t actually have an ability and is considered Vanilla for it.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:05 am

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It's a mechanic only in alignment changing roles, I think. The one-shot townie, the Judas and Saulus, and Underdog. They're Vanilla if used as an ability but otherwise they only work as alignment cards.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:05 am

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Judas is basically:

Judas Vanilla.

Judas is the alignment of :Town>Lynched>Mafia
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:17 am

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In post 179, davesaz wrote:It's a mistake to reveal information unnecessarily.
I've been told that way too many times in my life.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:42 am

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VOTE: Alchemist
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:51 am

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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:52 am

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Well if nothing else at least that made you appear.
But I do have a question for you.
How come that your ISO this game feels more IIoA than your previous game.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:53 am

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VOTE: Sakura
something doesn't feel right about her posts
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:56 am

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In post 198, Allomancer wrote:something doesn't feel right about her posts
I wonder if one day i'll learn why that happens.
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