Micro 857: Burden of Proficiency Mafia

[RadiantCowbells]

what do you mean defensive?

[Enter]

Posts where Shoshin talks about me indirectly instead of directly addressing points made against her:

I could care less if Enter loses.

I'm taking a small amount of joy in knowing that Enter thinks I'm this good as scum.

I'm so glad I don't have to sort Enter this game.

It feels like paragons want RC lynched so they don't have to sort him. I don't see Enter's analysis coming from a genuine attempt to sort the game.

At this point I'm not sure if this is even AI, so I'm not pushing this as anything, I'm just trying to help.

[RadiantCowbells]

oh

you quoted me lolll

[Enter]

I'm going to take a break for a bit and go eat and then come back when my head has cleared.

[Shoshin]

I don't feel like you respond to the things directly, and that makes my read on you worse.

I'm willing to respond to your concerns but not if you're going to treat me unfairly or talk with me as if I'm scum. Telling me my behavior is "possibly town but likely scum" when I know it's town for me isn't treating me fairly, it just makes you look foolish while annoying me, and if that's what you're going to do then please keep it to yourself and you can just select me.

[Shoshin]

Possible, but unlikely. I'm considering URAP as well. The URAP/Saudade case is bad, though. RC is town. MS/Saudade is the only slight possibility, but that seems deeply unlikely. And since you're you, you should know you're unlikely to be scum w/ Saudade.

I can see "it's possible we're overthinking this and it's just MS/Saudade" but to say it's just a single player in this game after RC started hunting for buddies is scum.

This is you telling me I'm scum when I know I'm not. If you want me to address your concerns, don't treat me like this.

[RadiantCowbells]

thought:

this is either urap's towniest scum game or scummiest town game.

[Aubrey]

Shoshin. Enter means well, and is having a tough time with your sharp tongue. Please ease up on the dude. You're getting mad because you're being suspected, but you're playing a game based on paranoia. Just because you know you're town doesn't mean others should know that. Work with him some instead of trying to bite him. If his mindset doesn't change, shrug your shoulders and move on. But lashing out of annoyance isn't helping, nor is it correct IMO. RC is going back and forth, yet you're not lashing out at him. I know you two are buddies, and Enter isn't close to you in that regard, but try and give him some of the same respect as RC.

[Shoshin]

It's fine if Enter has concerns but he doesn't need to post as if he's trying to convince me I'm scum. He can tell me the concerns, I can tell him why he's wrong, and he can decide from there.

[Shoshin]

RC isn't trying to convince me I'm scum so from my perspective it feels a lot different.

[RadiantCowbells]

shoshin you should have realized that you were scum by now

[Shoshin]

Thank you for backing me up, RC.

[Aubrey]

LOL. seems like it's word choice then. Hopefully now the two of you can engage one another better. And like RC, you better not stringing me along thinking you're town

[Enter]

Alright. I overreacted and was far too sensitive. I apologize.

In addition, my phrasing could have been better, and it's probably better to address the thread with concerns in place of statements. However, the post you quoted was not meant to give you concerns to deal with, but to maintain a sort of balance. Almost half the town is scum in this game, which means there is a larger proportion of intentional misinformation from informed players to genuine thought process in this game than there is in a typical game, taking only the mafia and town players into account. My thought process is guaranteed genuine and uncorrupted, so I'm trying to maintain it so people can look at my thought process and use it to keep a baseline for their own thoughts. If I am posting thoughts in agreement with their own, it is possible people disagreeing with them are scum, trying to feed them disinformation, if mine disagrees with theirs, it's a good reason to consider whether or not I may be just making poor decisions with my thinking or maybe the player should reconsider their own thoughts on that slot. I'm not trying to tell you I'm scum, I'm trying to show people like RC what I think is scummy about you so he can decide if I'm dumb or I have something legitimate worth listening to.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think you might be right

I'm back to townreading MS and scumreading URAP I think

[Enter]

At risk of reaching point of apathy I'll reread with new eyes tomorrow and try and case everyone.

[Michael Scott]

ms says that saude and i are teammates and that the comment about saude never voting ms is supposed to be wifom for the paragons

Interesting.

Can you quote me saying Saude not voting me is supposed to be WIFOM, *before* that post?

[Michael Scott]

Not to have my previous words misrepresented, i wont be voting michael.
Urap is the man for me

Clever.

This is

all

I said.

[u r a person 2]

i can't sleep and it fucking sucks

yeah, that's all you said. my bad. i inferred it - correctly tho, so not sure why it matters

RC, i'm disappointed that you're going to mislynch me here. I'm sure this wasn't my towniest game, but i don't think it was my scummiest. That was my first game. Not gonna put all the blame on you, though. That said, next time we play I think you should consider that you're 0/2 on me at this point.


oh and im changing my mind again. ms' wall post reads pretty townie.
Paragons, I'm not sure who I'd guess with suade. saudade + shoshin? I don't know their relationship, but looked pretty pocket-y to me tonight.
VOTE: suadade

GG all.

[Enter]

Urap, if you would read and respond to his wall post, that would help.

[Michael Scott]

yeah, that's all you said. my bad. i inferred it - correctly tho, so not sure why it matters

Almost like you... Planned that comment with him, and predicted that I would eventually say this.

Wondering what trajectory you would've taken if I had said that, but huh.

[RadiantCowbells]

What are the odds on Shoshin Saudade

[RadiantCowbells]

I could Lynch saudade

[Michael Scott]

What are the odds on Shoshin Saudade

Thoughts on 1945? Am I overthinking things?

[RadiantCowbells]

Dunno.