Greatest Idea VIII - Game Over

[Alchemist21]

Yeah I had it for setup 3

Irrel discarded Town Lover, and used Judas for role/alignment. If we consider it a role then chances are he used "something other than Town" for alignment, and if we consider it an alignment then you know he's a Judas "some role".

So "why is it that he is not town?", someone may ask. It's because if the 3rd card he had was Town ANYTHING then he could've used the Lover card for alignment and that other card for role if he so much disliked the Lover role. I can't see anyone getting even VT+Lover+Judas discarding Lover and picking Town Judas over Town Vanilla. Now go through the list of town roles and replace the VT with any of them, including negative utilities such as Miller, Hirsute, Watchlisted & Universal Miller.

Judas is considered Vanilla when taken as a role. There would be no functional difference between taking Lover’s alignment with VT’s role and taking Lover for alignment with Judas’ role. Town Judas doesn’t exist.

[Almost50]

If we don't lynch him, well, you got me ready to shoot his ass tonight to prove my claim.

That's what I'm saying and that's how it should be. We need not waste our lynch on him when we've got you on our side.

[Almost50]

I had lover/vt/Judas

Thank you. So instead of using Lover for alignment and Vanilla for role you picked Vanilla for alignment and Judas for role. And you say you don't like alignment changes??? By definition Judas IS an alignment changing role.

[Elsa Jay]

If we don't lynch him, well, you got me ready to shoot his ass tonight to prove my claim.

That's what I'm saying and that's how it should be. We need not waste our lynch on him when we've got you on our side.

... Almost, why must you make me feel bad? Or better yet, why couldn't ya have been here since the beginning of day 1. I coulda used your intelligence back then.

[Almost50]

Well then we can lynch him. I'm town as long as I don't get lynched.

Watcher and/or Town protective on me so I can make my shot in peace tonight.

No! YOU shoot him tonight. For all we know you might be Mafia and lynching the Judas works perfectly for you. And don't give me the "why would I out the both of us" shit. Who the hell knows why you do anything you do. I've seen it all from above. Remember?

[Micc]

Votecount 1.16

Elsa Jay (7) -

Vedith, brassherald, JunkoChan, Elsa Jay, Xtoxm, Performer, NotMySpamAccount

Sakura Hana (3) -

TemporalLich, DoubtingThomas, Almost50

TemporalLich (3) -

davesaz, ofrhz, pinturicchio

Alchemist21 (1) -

Blooper

Performer (1) -

Alchemist21

Not Voting (6) -

TTTT, Gamma Emerald, Chemist1422, Sakura Hana, Shadowlesscloud, Irrelephant11

With 21 players alive it takes 11 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-03-30 23:30:00).

[Irrelephant11]

I had lover/vt/Judas

Thank you. So instead of using Lover for alignment and Vanilla for role you picked Vanilla for alignment and Judas for role. And you say you don't like alignment changes??? By definition Judas IS an alignment changing role.

[Irrelephant11]

Reminder that DoubtingThomas has posted theee posts, one of which was a Sakura vote

[Irrelephant11]

Mild townread on JunkoChan, we’ve mindmelded a couple times and I didn’t even notice it was the same player I was agreeing with each time

[Irrelephant11]

Now that you talked about someone not posting yet, Sakura, you reminded me that there are a lot of players who haven't contributed a lot on this dayphase even if we have discussed like one or two relevant things. ofrhz gets a pass 'cause if Elsa flips scum, ofrhz is never her partner because of calling him out on the Judas thing. But where are Blooper, DT and Gamma? I could be forgetting other people too.

The fact that even when talking about the people who aren't posting I can slip by unnoticed is not good. Scum could be lurking. Occam's Razor says Elsa is scum and needs dayvigging, not rope. More to follow maybe.

This feels maybe like a self scumread

[Irrelephant11]

Pintu can be town, he’s effortless a lot and his reads make sense

[Irrelephant11]

TTTT is
Well,

[Irrelephant11]

I townread Vedith because reasons

[Almost50]

Everyone would have to claim something townie and some people might claim something that can be CC'd.

without a single mafia throw away, the only chance of no mafia would be if everyone used a mafia card for traits if they got one.

For reference @EJ mainly

[Almost50]

EoP 9, and I'm TRing Alch, pintu & Sakura (yeah I know it's weird).

[Almost50]

Votecount 1.05

Sakura Hana (4) -

Alchemist21, TemporalLich, DoubtingThomas, Allomancer

Alchemist21 (4) -

Blooper, Sakura Hana, JunkoChan, Xtoxm

Elsa Jay (2) -

Shadowlesscloud, Irrelephant11

Irrelephant11 (1) -

Elsa Jay

Not Voting (10) -

TTTT, Vedith, ofrhz, davesaz, NotMySpamAccount, pinturicchio, Performer, Gamma Emerald, Chemist1422, brassherald

With 21 players alive it takes 11 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-03-30 23:30:00).

UNVOTE:

This is also going to be an important VC for reference.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Right, where is DT. Hes from one of the other sites with me. The fact that he even voted Sakura is ew

[Almost50]

davesaz is town. Xtoxm is not. (Come to me, tough guy)

[Almost50]

Having thought about it more, if we have a Town Vig.. please

don't waste your shot on EJ

. Let the non-Town & non-Mafia killer(s) take care of it.

If Irrel isn't lynched though, you take care of him tonight. His is an explicit non0town claim anyway you slice it.

So far I have pintu/Alch/Sakura/dave as Town reads.
EJ is "probably Town, but I will never trust them" kind of read.
Xoxm is a "smooth as silk" read (Whoever doesn't get it, check Xtoxm's sig)
And Irrel is confirmed scum to me.
Everyone else is some shade of null so far.

[Micc]

Prodding Gamma Emerald.

[Almost50]

hahaha what is wrong with me

You're talking on the phone and not paying attention.

[Almost50]

I've read this thread and it seems no one is providing a reason for why they're voting Alchemist21 (he killed the One-Shot Townie even, which is a townie that turns survivor if it's alive D2)

TL trying to use logic and perception here gets him a Town lean (and a stronger one than Elsa in fact)

[Almost50]

I've read this thread and it seems no one is providing a reason for why they're voting Alchemist21 (he killed the One-Shot Townie even, which is a townie that turns survivor if it's alive D2)

Who the hell wouldn't discard that.

I wouldn't! I would've used it for my alignment.. unless -of course- I also rolled the child killer card and the wrong place at wrong time one along with it.

[Almost50]

I've read this thread and it seems no one is providing a reason for why they're voting Alchemist21 (he killed the One-Shot Townie even, which is a townie that turns survivor if it's alive D2)

Who the hell wouldn't discard that.

Raises hand

I TOTALLY believe you. Hmmm.. you wouldn't be "something I made you before" would you??

[Almost50]

Vigs don’t counterclaim; they counterkill.

^THIS^