Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[Near x Mello]

you're manipulating the replacement into voting her before he can make a decision of who he scumreads or doesn't scumread on his own.

ill give you this, you are right here. normally id want the replacement to make the decision on their own.

however, not in this gamestate. we are finally about to get the lynch ive wanted forever and the main other person who wants this lynch suddenly replaces out and is replaced by someone who unvotes. i cannot really accept this. i just want the lynch to happen.

besides, im so certain almost is town that there isnt really much i want to see from the replacement. i just want him to not be dumb and not make the scum lynch take longer.

[Near x Mello]

Besides, you want me to scumread and vote her, yet when I did that, you immediately scumread me for it. Which means it's 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario. I defend her? You ignore me. I say 'fuck it' and vote her? You scumread me.

Once again, I scumread you for your vote because it's the exact same thing you've done in the past as scum.

If you reconsidered and accepted mastina could be scum, and voted her for that instead of things like "i will get to gloat" then I wouldnt scumread you.

[Near x Mello]

Furthermore, she is a townread. You saying I should just let my townread get lynched without even trying to defend them? :/

no, im all for defending townreads.
But when every other person in the game is telling you your townread is wrong, maybe you should consider it's wrong.
Have you done that once?

[Near x Mello]

What reason? What 'reason' did you give? All I saw is you repeating over and over 'she is scum', never once explaining why or bothering to quote the parts of her posts you think are scummy and explain why those parts are scummy.

look. normally, I don't do this sort of thing at all. I don't believe in "cases" because if you really want to, you can find scum motivation in any iso you want. what I do instead is talk to people in real time and expose their scumminess through interactions. then i hope people see what i wanted them to see.
i feel having to spoonfeed people "cases" is forced and i dont do it.

despite that, you are wrong that i havent done it. In 3587 through 3589 i pushed myself to provide some reasoning mastina is scum.

but again, thats not how i work. all of my posts that respond to something mastina says are in actuality reasoning for why shes scum. they just don't look the part.

[Joan of Arc]

Furthermore, she is a townread. You saying I should just let my townread get lynched without even trying to defend them? :/

no, im all for defending townreads.
But when every other person in the game is telling you your townread is wrong, maybe you should consider it's wrong.
Have you done that once?

I was willing to do it if just one person explained to me why she is scum in clear, concise words. But no one did that.

[Joan of Arc]

Furthermore, she is a townread. You saying I should just let my townread get lynched without even trying to defend them? :/

no, im all for defending townreads.
But when every other person in the game is telling you your townread is wrong, maybe you should consider it's wrong.
Have you done that once?

I was willing to do it if just one person explained to me why she is scum in clear, concise words. But no one did that.

Not you, not Cerb, not PB, no one.

It didn't even have to be you. It could have been any of the remaining players, I would have reconsidered. But all I got was silence, despite asking repeatedly for it.

[Joan of Arc]

You claim mastina shouldn't be town just because she says she is, and that just because she says Chito or Elena aren't her scumbuddies doesn't make it so, yet your reasoning for why she is scum is essentially 'because I say she is'.

[Joan of Arc]

So guess what? I don't give a damn anymore. I asked for simple reasoning for why she is scum that I could understand, but all I got was crickets.

Therefore, I just don't care anymore.

[Joan of Arc]

Mastina: "Almost is scum because he said he would talk to Drixx on D4/D5 and Drixx died

What's wrong with this reasoning? It's a pretty reasonable stance from where I stand.

[Joan of Arc]

you're manipulating the replacement into voting her before he can make a decision of who he scumreads or doesn't scumread on his own.

ill give you this, you are right here. normally id want the replacement to make the decision on their own.

however, not in this gamestate. we are finally about to get the lynch ive wanted forever and the main other person who wants this lynch suddenly replaces out and is replaced by someone who unvotes. i cannot really accept this. i just want the lynch to happen.

besides, im so certain almost is town that there isnt really much i want to see from the replacement. i just want him to not be dumb and not make the scum lynch take longer.

Again, this post is essentially 'she is scum because I say so and if he is given time to conclude otherwise, my plan will fail'.

Furtheremore, you want me to ask myself 'what if she is scum', but I haven't seen you ask yourself 'what if she is town? what if I am wrong?' and create some sort of back-up plan for that scenario.

[Near x Mello]

Mastina: "Almost is scum because he said he would talk to Drixx on D4/D5 and Drixx died

What's wrong with this reasoning? It's a pretty reasonable stance from where I stand.

I don't see anything reasonable in there. Drixx could have died due to a thousand reasons, most notably for his counterclaim on Vedith. Yet mastina connected it to Almost for stupid reasons like the quoted.

[Near x Mello]

I haven't seen you ask yourself 'what if she is town? what if I am wrong?' and create some sort of back-up plan for that scenario.

You are wrong. A few pages back I considered mastina could be town and was considering chito/elena and chito/RP scumteams. You know that because you mentioned it yourself.

[Joan of Arc]

I haven't seen you ask yourself 'what if she is town? what if I am wrong?' and create some sort of back-up plan for that scenario.

You are wrong. A few pages back I considered mastina could be town and was considering chito/elena and chito/RP scumteams. You know that because you mentioned it yourself.

Then why abandon your scumread on Chito/Elena so easily? You seem awfully inconsistent here for someone who is that sure of your own scumreads. So 'fess up.

[Joan of Arc]

Mastina: "Almost is scum because he said he would talk to Drixx on D4/D5 and Drixx died

What's wrong with this reasoning? It's a pretty reasonable stance from where I stand.

I don't see anything reasonable in there. Drixx could have died due to a thousand reasons, most notably for his counterclaim on Vedith. Yet mastina connected it to Almost for stupid reasons like the quoted.

Do you deny Drixx scumread Almost?
Do you deny Almost said it to him?
Do you deny Almost could have killed him to prevent that talk because he knew he couldn't get out of it?

It is a perfectly reasonable stance and it is a simple explanation too. You're doing essentially what you accuse mastina of doing: stretching facts to fit your arguments and making the simple observation more convoluted than it could be. Rather than consider that Almost might have killed Drixx, you flat-out deny the possibility.

[Near x Mello]

I haven't seen you ask yourself 'what if she is town? what if I am wrong?' and create some sort of back-up plan for that scenario.

You are wrong. A few pages back I considered mastina could be town and was considering chito/elena and chito/RP scumteams. You know that because you mentioned it yourself.

Then why abandon your scumread on Chito/Elena so easily? You seem awfully inconsistent here for someone who is that sure of your own scumreads. So 'fess up.

Because mastina is scummy and has to die. If she flips town, I can return to these alternative thoughts then.

[Joan of Arc]

Your whole modus operandi is 'hammer onto the things which strengthen my arguments, while ignore things that don't'. You even admitted to that:

therefore, what i do is only respond to things that i feel are manipulative enough to convince people, so i can combat them. the rest i can ignore.

[Near x Mello]

It is a perfectly reasonable stance and it is a simple explanation too.

no it really isnt, it's a load of bullshit. people dont die because almost cant respond to something.

the fact you believe it isnt shows we have completely different metrics and thus we cannot communicate.

[Joan of Arc]

I haven't seen you ask yourself 'what if she is town? what if I am wrong?' and create some sort of back-up plan for that scenario.

You are wrong. A few pages back I considered mastina could be town and was considering chito/elena and chito/RP scumteams. You know that because you mentioned it yourself.

Then why abandon your scumread on Chito/Elena so easily? You seem awfully inconsistent here for someone who is that sure of your own scumreads. So 'fess up.

Because mastina is scummy and has to die. If she flips town, I can return to these alternative thoughts then.

No. No. No. If mastina flips town, you would fucking admit you were fucking wrong like you agreed to before doing anything else.

Or did you think I would forget? Well, I didn't.

[Near x Mello]

Your whole modus operandi is 'hammer onto the things which strengthen my arguments, while ignore things that don't'. You even admitted to that:

therefore, what i do is only respond to things that i feel are manipulative enough to convince people, so i can combat them. the rest i can ignore.

if thats what you took away from that we are done here and can go back to regular

i once again tried to reason with you because im stupid

[Joan of Arc]

It is a perfectly reasonable stance and it is a simple explanation too.

no it really isnt, it's a load of bullshit. people dont die because almost cant respond to something.

the fact you believe it isnt shows we have completely different metrics and thus we cannot communicate.

Yeah, we do. I can admit I am wrong when I am proven wrong. While you insist you are right even after proven wrong. That's the difference between us.

[Joan of Arc]

Also,, what happened to this?

and if we lynch mastina and she's actually town, we both fucked up, ok, wisdom?

obviously

You were never gonna honor this, were you? You would have come up with some excuse as to why you won't do it, wouldn't you?

[Pink Ball]

We could lynch Joan first, I'm fine with that alternative

[Joan of Arc]

We could lynch Joan first, I'm fine with that alternative

'WE COULD LYNCH SOMEONE WHO DARED RETALIATE AFTER I CALLED THEM DUMB, I AM FINE WITH THAT BS.'

[Joan of Arc]

I AM THE PRESIDENT OF CHINA, SO WHAT I SAY GOES. LISTEN TO ME, GODDAMIT, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, BAD THINGS MIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPEN. SO LYNCH MASTINA, AND IF SHE FLIPS TOWN, THEN IT'S NOT MY FAULT, NOT AT ALL, BAAAAA!

[Joan of Arc]

AND TO THOSE THAT DARE RESIST THIS RIGHTEOUS LYNCH, WE WILL SHAME THEM IN PUBLIC BY CLAIMING THEY HAVE NO BRAINS WHATSOEVER AND THE FACT THAT THEY ACTUALLY FOUND SCUM DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL!