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Enter · Post Post #1230 (isolation #0) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:35 am

In post 1226, Ankamius wrote:UNVOTE: Enter

Talk to me, Enter.

What exactly do you need to get into the game?

Game state, important events, who's been pushed as a mislynch (or looks pretty mislynchable) and your top scum reads right now

Enter · Post Post #1232 (isolation #1) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:09 am

In post 11, demonlord wrote:VOTE: gamma

In post 12, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: gamma

Last two votes on a wagon out of RVS on a wagon don't look super good

In post 15, ofrhz wrote:Hi everybody!

My name is Selina Meyer, and I'm running to be your president! Can I count on your vote?

VOTE: ofrhz

Self-votes are scummy. Anti-town and I've seen like 2? townies use self-votes when not trying to AtE, but like 3 more scum, off the top of my head.

VOTE: ofhrz

In post 45, Enigma wrote:hi all

how boring

you can have some scum reads

In post 66, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: Fuscosco

They feel really forced so far.

They don't
People have thoughts on Ausuka?

In post 181, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 179, light_ganski wrote:
In post 170, Vedith wrote:
I'll kill you tonight
Statistically, people who scumclaim in jest tend to be scum
I refute this by saying I do this as any alignment.

stop.

Enter · Post Post #1234 (isolation #2) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:17 am

I was kinda half-skimming the first couple pages of the game thread and Ausuka caught my eye, so I ISO'd her

Not a big fan

People that aren't Ausuka, talk to me about Ausuka

Ausuka, talk to me about your reads

Spoiler: Ausuka stuff

Spoiler: Ausuka exclusively changing her vote almost every post in her ISO

In post 326, Ausuka wrote:the gamma wagon is confusing; i understand that it's a way to get the game started but i'd think it would be more prudent to vote for me or light or vedith rather than gamma.

i actually don't think anyone voting me is scummy yet; there's probably 1-2 scum in players like enigma, clemency, elsa, ofrhz? who feel kind of like they're holding back. there are a lot of nully people in general.

In post 399, Ausuka wrote:to those asking about my line about the gamma wagon; it generally seems like it would be a good idea to build on what we have, even if people are just pretending to actually believe it, then build a wagon that explicitly is not on a scumread because i think the first one would cause more pressure and cause the game to get started a lot faster. if there's a case on gamma that i missed i'd be wrong but i don't think there is one.

@enigma; those players are holding back in terms of content; it's certainly possible some of you are busy irl but we can't just assume that as an excuse for giving no content, i think.

In post 567, Ausuka wrote:UNVOTE:

dt is less scummy now i guess because i like their dunnstral push.

i don't really know where to go now though.

In post 669, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: sabrina

i think that this needs more pressure: i feel her policy push on dt is clearly not working and as town she would either take a different angle to pushing DT or push somebody else. Right now she feels like scum who's satisfied with her current position of mostly flying under the radar and being ignored.

In post 740, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: elsa jay

In post 963, Ausuka wrote:I feel like ofrhz's recent posts are kinda towny? Like it feels like they genuinely want to help town after their flip. There's probably scum in the claims so far but I'm not that interested in going there d1.

VOTE: Sabrina

In post 993, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: Gemerald
i feel like she's been kinda meh in this game and hasn't really felt like she's been trying to solve. her most recent post says that xyzzy is a dunce for trying to replace her; even though she didn't post for 6 days. this implies that xyzzy should know for some other reason that she isn't flaking on this game and i think the most likely possibility for that is that she's still been somewhat active in the scum PT.

In post 998, Ausuka wrote:Meh I guess Gamma's more likely just being randomly abrasive than real scum. The argument doesn't really work anymore if Gamma can't post at all during that time.

VOTE: Sabrina I guess this still works for me more than anything else but there's no momentum here :/

Enter · Post Post #1235 (isolation #3) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:22 am

In post 234, DoubtingThomas wrote:
In post 91, Fuscosco wrote:Thats the face Im making when he is asking a question; not about the question, but the style.
VOTE: fuscosco

Talk to me DT

In post 248, DoubtingThomas wrote: mindmelded

VOTE: ausuka

town.

what are your reads rn?

Enter · Post Post #1236 (isolation #4) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:24 am

In post 281, Wisdom wrote:Not interested in ausuka wagon either

Fascinating.

given the speed people are jumping on I'm actually losing interest myself.

talk about people voting Ausuka at this time, wilky, DT, EJ

Enter · Post Post #1237 (isolation #5) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:26 am

DT is probs town
EJ is probs town
wilky, less so

probably the opposite, actually

Enter · Post Post #1238 (isolation #6) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:27 am

In post 292, Wisdom wrote:what are light and ausuka if not counterwagons

In post 293, Wisdom wrote:If anything, there *is* unwarranted resistance to the gamma wagon

annnnd... nevermind

what is this resistance

you're saying

your RVS wagon that got like five votes instantly

has too much resistance?

at least talk about who you think scum is on both wagons

Enter · Post Post #1239 (isolation #7) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:28 am

In post 320, Sabrina LeCutie wrote:
In post 263, DoubtingThomas wrote:Top poster 20 minutes into joining the game

I am Locktown
Yeah, no.

Spamming =/= town. In fact, if it weren't for you replacing in and catching up, I'd say you'd be pretty scummy for trying this tactic.

You know what, fuck it, even for a replace in that spam seemed like you were trying to seem overly towny.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

scum

Enter · Post Post #1240 (isolation #8) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:30 am

In post 353, Elsa Jay wrote:Tell us what your dinner was first before you conk out first.

redundancy

you don't need to say "first" twice

In post 355, DoubtingThomas wrote:I joined mafia scum for one purpose.

TO CHANGE THE SITE'S META FROM PLAYING ANTI-TOWN ON PURPOSE FOR PERSONAL "META" REASONS THAT INCLUDES BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING:

- Not contributing
- Not answering questions
- Ignoring posts
- Self voting
- Talking about subbing out
- Etc

Get off your high horse and play mafia with me

hey, me too!

why aren't you voting the person who already self-voted

Enter · Post Post #1241 (isolation #9) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:30 am

Going to work, be back in like an hour.

Enter · Post Post #1247 (isolation #10) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:33 am

Ank what is redeemable about enigma to you?

Enter · Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:58 am

In post 1249, Ausuka wrote:
In post 1230, Enter wrote:
In post 1226, Ankamius wrote:UNVOTE: Enter

Talk to me, Enter.

What exactly do you need to get into the game?
who's been pushed as a mislynch (or looks pretty mislynchable)
what is this supposed to mean?

It's another way of asking what wagons are likely to have scum on them

In post 1251, Ausuka wrote:
In post 1232, Enter wrote:Self-votes are scummy. Anti-town and I've seen like 2? townies use self-votes when not trying to AtE, but like 3 more scum, off the top of my head.

VOTE: ofhrz
what's the scum motivation for ofrhz to selfvote here?

What's the town motivation for her to self-vote?

In post 1252, DoubtingThomas wrote:Enter are you ee?

Yes

In post 1259, ofrhz wrote:
In post 1232, Enter wrote:
In post 15, ofrhz wrote:Hi everybody!

My name is Selina Meyer, and I'm running to be your president! Can I count on your vote?

VOTE: ofrhz
Self-votes are scummy. Anti-town and I've seen like 2? townies use self-votes when not trying to AtE, but like 3 more scum, off the top of my head.

VOTE: ofhrz
This was obviously part of my entrance

and even if it wasn't, this is a pretty surface-level read

You trynna say scummy things aren't scummy in the opening post?

Enter · Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:59 am

In post 1253, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1252, DoubtingThomas wrote:Enter are you ee?
Doesnt matter if he is. Dont ask.

Thanks, you're sweet, but I was outed a while ago and EE isn't really a secret all.

In post 1255, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1250, Ausuka wrote:i don't understand how 66 is meant to be forced.
he means theatre. it looks like theatre to him.

I like you and the WY you're posting this game.

Enter · Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:00 pm

@Ausuka, why do we have RVS? Why don't we typically use RQS, for example?

Enter · Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:14 pm

In post 1263, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1260, Enter wrote:What's the town motivation for her to self-vote?
lack of town motivation does not mean presence of scum motivation
this is weak

I'm not implying that.

What's the purpose of RVS, wisdom?

Enter · Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:17 pm

In post 1265, Wisdom wrote:to get reactions

selfvoting causes reactions

What reactions

What reactions do you get from a self-vote

How indicative of your alignment/stances on other people is a self-vote?

How indicative of your alingment/stances on other people is a vote on someone else?

Enter · Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:24 pm

I'll tell you what reactions you get from a self-vote:

"why did you self-vote" (that's NAI)
"I don't like it when people self-vote" (also NAI)
"I'm glad they self-voted" (NAI)

Here's what stances you show on other people when you self vote:

None. Because you don't respond to anyone, you don't show willingness to vote anyone, you don't jump on a wagon that already has five people on it

Let's compare that to voting someone else:

There were five votes on GE this game, that's particularly interesting:

ofrhz votes someone on the GE wagon: this might be a legit serious stance
Possible reactions:
"do you not like the ge wagon, ofrhz?"
"what did that specific player do that the others didn't do?"
One of those players flips down the line and now all of a sudden it's a little easier to see why ofrhz might vote them in RVS - to get some possible distance in (weak, sure, but better than nothing)

Mafia is a game of reading people.
You read people by getting them to react to things
One good way to get people to interact with things is to threaten to lynch them if they don't
One good way to threaten to lynch people is to vote them
This is why we have RVS
In RVS no one has any reads on anyone
So we begin threatening to lynch everyone
We put our votes everywhere
We see what stances people are willing to take
We see how people are trying to play the game
Who has an agenda - people tehy dont necessarily want lynched no matter what
Who has no agenda - willing to look at anyone and definitely trying to figure out what's going on

By self-voting, you refuse all town motivations in RVS
It's a sign that you already know who's who and what's what, because there is no confusion, no need to push elsewhere to garnish reads

Enter · Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:43 pm

right
let's lynch

Enter · Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:50 pm

why don't u hammer me then

Enter · Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:50 pm

kidding i know you're voting me

you got a reads list, wis?

Enter · Post Post #1275 (isolation #20) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:55 pm

In post 1274, Wisdom wrote:oh cmon starwing

ofhrz was just doing her selina thing

enter is just using it as an excuse to post about something

"It's ok to be anti-town because that's her meta"

Don't pretend I didn't post on a lot of other things.

Enter · Post Post #1282 (isolation #21) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:07 pm

In post 1281, Ankamius wrote:I don't think he realizes that I wasn't kidding when I said he plays like I did in 2014 and this is the kind of thing I did as scum back then.

Naw I believe you

I definitely see a lot of similarities in our thought processes.

Enter · Post Post #1283 (isolation #22) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:09 pm

Kinda busier than I expected today, I'll try and get to this more tonight

Enter · Post Post #1291 (isolation #23) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:49 pm

actually seen more scum self-votes than town self-votes.

if you self-vote during rvs as town, it's bad, stop doing that.

i'm using that post as a justification for my vote on ofrhz.

whatever

catching up more gimme a minute

Enter · Post Post #1293 (isolation #24) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:56 pm

Sabrina's ISO is disgusting

It reeks of fake emotional 1v1. Especially this:

In post 816, Sabrina LeCutie wrote:Why is everyone voting enigma

Give me a legit reason

In post 841, Sabrina LeCutie wrote:
Expressing intent to hammer.

"long week ahead" was the explanation

her scum read on DT isn't even a real scumread

she seems only interested in defending herself, some of her posts seem like she doesn't even care all that much if DT is actually lynched

VOTE: Sabrina

Enter · Post Post #1294 (isolation #25) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:58 pm

In post 1292, light_ganski wrote:Why specifically is ausuka changing her vote a lot early on scummy?

I dont' mind changing your vote a lot
but if you're going to change your vote you should have reason and be trying to get somewhere with it

so going back to RVS theory - I vote someone when I think they're scum and I want them dead
or when I want to sort them

I move my vote off when I have sorted someone or there is someone new I want dead

so the way I see
Ausuka has great reads and sorted a lot of people without very many posts in between her votes, often none at all (applying barely any pressure)
or she wants everyone dead.

Enter · Post Post #1296 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:04 pm

In post 755, chennisden wrote:
Is Enigma at L-1? If so, I intend to hammer. If not, I will vote.

In post 767, ofrhz wrote:VOTE: enigma

L-1

In post 753, chennisden wrote:UNVOTE:

sorry

Why sorry?

Enter · Post Post #1297 (isolation #27) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:05 pm

Didn't mean to quote anything other than 753

In post 1295, light_ganski wrote:
In post 1236, Enter wrote:
In post 281, Wisdom wrote:Not interested in ausuka wagon either
Fascinating.

given the speed people are jumping on I'm actually losing interest myself.

talk about people voting Ausuka at this time, wilky, DT, EJ
This in contrast with your other ausuka posts

Makes your whole ausuka thing seem really distance-y

Nice a day 1 associatives push

Enter · Post Post #1299 (isolation #28) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:07 pm

In post 1298, chennisden wrote:because I missed an obv soft

noted

i think chenn is prolly town regardless of claim anyways

because two intent to hammers

wtf

Enter · Post Post #1307 (isolation #29) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:20 pm

wis
what's your read on ofrhz?

Enter · Post Post #1320 (isolation #30) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:45 pm

wis talk about

ofhrz

pls

Enter · Post Post #1323 (isolation #31) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:56 pm

VOTE: wisdom

I know there's better times to be doing this but I've got a reason

i see something

i really wanna see him talk about something because there's something i want him to talk about

Enter · Post Post #1324 (isolation #32) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:56 pm

tell me about ofhrz pls wisdom

Enter · Post Post #1327 (isolation #33) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:09 pm

In post 1326, light_ganski wrote:
In post 1297, Enter wrote: Nice a day 1 associatives push

You don't need a flip to see that your interaction with ausuka seems strange, in a "why are you pushing ausuka but voting somewhere else" way

Sabrina today, Ausuka tomorrow

I'd lynch Ausuka rn honestly if I needed to

what do you think of wisdom rn?

Enter · Post Post #1328 (isolation #34) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:31 pm

In post 1053, Ankamius wrote:I'm on page 12 atm and the fact that I'm not mindmelding with anyone makes me really wonder about the game so far

I have three scumreads.

mindmeld with me

i feel like you're not giving me things that i need from you

i'm not quite sure what i need from you though

i now realize that you haven't been here the whole time, tho, so that makes it kinda weird.

In post 1059, Ankamius wrote:
In post 355, DoubtingThomas wrote:I joined mafia scum for one purpose.

TO CHANGE THE SITE'S META FROM PLAYING ANTI-TOWN ON PURPOSE FOR PERSONAL "META" REASONS THAT INCLUDES BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING:

- Not contributing
- Not answering questions
- Ignoring posts
- Self voting
- Talking about subbing out
- Etc

Get off your high horse and play mafia with me
VOTE: Ankamius

my heart
actually
just stopped

i think i need to go to the hospital

i am upset

Enter · Post Post #1332 (isolation #35) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:34 pm

In post 1070, Ankamius wrote:
TOWN

Ausuka
Dunnstral
Wisdom

TOWNISH

Fuscosco
Gamma Emerald
ofrhz
Vedith

WHO? (AKA SORT LATER)

chennisden
Elsa Jay
Enigma
Sabrina LeCutie
StarwingBeauvoi

SCUMMISH

DoubtingThomas
MariaR

SCUM

davesaz
light_ganski

i want to turn this list upside down

but we'll deal with this next day phase

let's sort out of

{wisdom/sabrina/ofrhz/ausuka}

or tell me why you're townreading ausuka/wis so hard

it has been noted that wisdom is specifically not responding to me

Enter · Post Post #1333 (isolation #36) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:36 pm

If wisdom does't show up soon, I'm going to point out what I've noticed and push for his lynch over Sabrina

Enter · Post Post #1338 (isolation #37) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:44 pm

Spoiler:

wisdom is running people up for claims and moving off

why is he pushing dave when he still thinks ofrhz is not only scum but also scum role (rolestopper)
his scum reads were sabrina/ofrhz
I agree on both those reads

but now they're town and he's pushing me for ridiculous pushes on them

i haven't seen wis put anything into the game that's super ai, just a lot of running people up for a claim

esp the whole "roleblocker can be scum" but not running it up for a lynch? wut

Enter · Post Post #1340 (isolation #38) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:47 pm

In post 1335, Ankamius wrote:
Wisdom I'm townbinning until I have a reason not to, this game is technically easier to fake a townleadery spot but I don't think it's very likely he's scum going that route this game.

Ausuka is the closest slot I've gotten to mindmelding with and I find her response to her wagon pretty town. Her later posting is less impressive, but that's pretty much every slot so that's null.

Ofrhz I don't actually remember

Sabrina is aggressively null

you have a reason not to now.

honestly let's just get wis/ofrhz/sab

wis will be harder lynch later, seems deepwolf to me, so i'm more feeling it now
esp the whole "not talking to you thing" seems scared scum not really intersted in working through things

In post 1337, Sabrina LeCutie wrote:
In post 1293, Enter wrote:Sabrina's ISO is disgusting

It reeks of fake emotional 1v1. Especially this:
In post 816, Sabrina LeCutie wrote:It is in fact a scumread. I called him out on his bs immediately after he started showing his ass. Everything he's done up to this point has only further pushed me to believe he's scum.

Btw, I'ma give you guys something to chew on at least. The role I've been assigned in this game is a role that, prior to receiving, I had literally never heard of before. I presume this setup based on it's nature has lots of roles of this effect.

It's your only scumread
and your basis behind it is.... he's posting too much
nice.

thought you said you'd been playing mafia a while now

also why are we crumbing rn

Enter · Post Post #1341 (isolation #39) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:47 pm

In post 1339, Wisdom wrote:because dave was scummier than sabrina and ofhrz who were more close to null

your reads just flip to match whatever you're scumreading at the moment?

what made you flip on dave?

Enter · Post Post #1342 (isolation #40) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:48 pm

I screwed up the quotes and I'm sorry

Enter · Post Post #1345 (isolation #41) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:50 pm

thanks

youre right

this is really helpful

In post 1145, Wisdom wrote:I think i agree with the dave scumread

In post 1147, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: dave

In post 1148, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1146, davesaz wrote:Pedit: so you're all back to scumreading me for being myself. Nice.
this triggered me

Enter · Post Post #1346 (isolation #42) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:51 pm

In post 1344, Sabrina LeCutie wrote:I have been playing mafia for a long time. Day 1 is always the worst. I never do much Day 1.

My basis is that he's trying to seem overly towny (and then calls himself conftown?) yeah, no. That's scum slip.

I feel like you don't understand the meaning of the word "slip"

scum tell? idk

how often do you see a player call themselves conftown as town

and how often do you see it as scum?

also "i never do much day 1" is a terrible excuse

you should do something day 1

like vote inside of (wis/ausuka/ofhrz)

Enter · Post Post #1348 (isolation #43) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:52 pm

If you're really REALLY solid on DT for some reason

then case him again

I know what you said originally
but your reads should change throughout the course of the game

i'm gonna need a solid reason why that read is getting stronger

Enter · Post Post #1350 (isolation #44) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:55 pm

In post 1349, Wisdom wrote:enter why did i create a wagon on ofhrz in the first place if im scum with her

did i say you're scum w/ her

Enter · Post Post #1352 (isolation #45) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:56 pm

In post 6, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: orfhz

actually, good point

you're prolly scum w/ her

Enter · Post Post #1353 (isolation #46) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:57 pm

In post 1351, Wisdom wrote:youre saying its me/ausuka/ofhrz so yes

I dont' usually do associatives d1, but the more i look at it

the more i like it

explains why you're still trying to distance

even though the wagonisn't there anymore

Enter · Post Post #1355 (isolation #47) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:59 pm

I'm cool w/ flipping ofhrz rn

wis looks like bussing

we flip ofhrz today, tomorrow we flip wis

solid reason why he's not responding on her

Wisdom wrote:good then tell me why i wagoned her and made her claim

I don't know
what is bussing?
I have no clue what it is

also
what are fake claims
I don't know what those are either

Enter · Post Post #1357 (isolation #48) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:01 pm

I can remember maybe like 2 times I've rolled scum
when I did my fear was
who do I vote
in RVS
I was frightened someone else would find me immediately
so I voted for my partner immediately

although the temptation was to self-vote

because both give nothing away
or distance myself from the other player

ofrhz sefl-voted
wisdom voted ofhrz
and immediately joined as the fifth person on the wagon of naked votes on gamma emerald

how often do you see a five vote bandwagon on someone coming out of rvs

Enter · Post Post #1358 (isolation #49) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:02 pm

In post 1356, Wisdom wrote:so i bussed my rolestopper, one of the strongest scum roles there are

my rolestopper who can save me from getting caught by investigatives which is more or less the only way i lose

You definitely seem like you're bussing pretty hard

you're right

my bad

you're probably town

so let's lynch ofhrz

Enter · Post Post #1359 (isolation #50) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:03 pm

In post 946, Wisdom wrote:rolestopper can be scum

In post 960, Wisdom wrote:no, rolestopper is more likely scum than other roles

how convinced you sound in this wagon

Enter · Post Post #1362 (isolation #51) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:07 pm

In post 1361, Wisdom wrote:so ank, not seeing enter scum yet? citing rvs votes and nonsensical busses aint enough?

i'm going to pretend that you meant wagons

and that you didn't just scum slip

and then i'm going to ask you

why do you think the ofrhz wagon was nonsensical?

Enter · Post Post #1364 (isolation #52) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:09 pm

In post 1363, Wisdom wrote:no i meant what i said

alright

why do you think it was nonsensical for you to bus ofrhz?

Enter · Post Post #1377 (isolation #53) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:35 pm

In post 1376, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1324, Enter wrote:tell me about ofhrz pls wisdom
if wiz is scum ill get'im.

The claiming is dumb, but not so bad. The wagoning/claiming has been muted thus far.

noted

VOTE: ofrhz

Enter · Post Post #1387 (isolation #54) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:50 pm

1v1 me wisdom

this doesn't end well anyways

u lynch me today they sheep me tomorrow then u die

we lynch u today then u die

we lynch ofhrz today she flips scum then u die

we lynch sab today she flips scum then u die

Enter · Post Post #1388 (isolation #55) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:51 pm

this doesn't end with u not being caught

Enter · Post Post #1397 (isolation #56) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:24 pm

In post 1390, ofrhz wrote:Enter why am I scum?

probabilities

In post 1392, Ausuka wrote:
In post 1255, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1250, Ausuka wrote:i don't understand how 66 is meant to be forced.
he means theatre. it looks like theatre to him.
Yes, and why does it look like theatre to him?

because it's theatrical

i'm not responding to the rest of your slew of nonsense

if you don't understand what RVS is

why it works

or what's going on

that's fine

a lot of people don't

it's part of the reason we get a crap load of shit posters in RVS

people just think everyone just kinda does their own thing until something interesting happens

but don't put that ignorance on me

Enter · Post Post #1398 (isolation #57) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:29 pm

In post 1396, Ausuka wrote:Except most people don't think like this and you know it? I also think you're wrong because there's not really actual lynch threatening going on in RVS and selfvoting can lead to discussion but that's not really relevant so. People mess around in RVS, not everything is for the sake of generating content alone.

wtf

explain what you think

I know

most people don't think like

also

please tell me that you think any wagon outside of RVS is ACTUALLY going to lead to a lynch.

Tell me that.

I know you know it isn't true. The first couple wagons coming out of RVS aren't going to lead to a lynch. They almost never do.

In fact there are loads of wagons that happen every game that will not lead to a lynch, and anyone who's aware of what's actually going on knows it.

But pepole read them and use them.

WHy?

Because almost everything in mafia CAN BE AI for some players at some times in some ways

it all depend son the circumstances.

Only studying the wagons that have potential to lead to a lynch is dumb, and that's the mindset you're trying to use here. You read a lot more than the wagons that lead to lynches.

Enter · Post Post #1401 (isolation #58) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:31 pm

literally all you're doing ausuka

is saying
"the way i play the game is just make jokes in rvs and then i vote for things that look weird or out of place to me"

but you show no understanding of what causes people to do things that make things look weird or out of place

Enter · Post Post #1404 (isolation #59) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:33 pm

sure, she could be town

but considering i've seen a self-vote at any phase of the game come more often from scum than from town

it makes it more likely that she's scum

you don't want to lynch her, fine

i'll look at her more closely tomorrow

but i've been in too many games where just lynching the player who started AtE'ing, self-voting, or hard core lurking was just scum

but people wouldn't push it because of the same reasoning you've got there

it COULD be town
sure it could

but probabilities disagree w/ you

Enter · Post Post #1407 (isolation #60) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:36 pm

In post 1403, Ankamius wrote:Enter

This is going to get you nowhere

you're right

i'm just so frustrated

every game i go through this

people think it's funny and smart to self-vote (oh man what a reaction test! Wow wonder how scum are gonna react THIS TIME hahaha!)

people think it's funny to just bs in rvs (I play mafia to have fun and I'm having fun)

like seriously? I'm not trying to make fun games boring

but if you signed up to play axis&allies, get the candyland pieces off the board.

whatever

i'll drop it for now

Enter · Post Post #1408 (isolation #61) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:37 pm

In post 1406, Ankamius wrote:And why are you talking like mastina

its weird

you don't know?

i'm mastin from futures past

Enter · Post Post #1410 (isolation #62) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:40 pm

In post 1409, Ausuka wrote:You're ignoring what I'm actually posting about and focusing on random theory. I don't care what you think about me as a player, I care that your push on ofrhz makes no sense and either you're scum or I'm severely misinterpreting your point.

You're generalizing all self votes and I don't see any reason to do that. In this specific scenario there's no motivation for ofrhz to do this as scum and you couldn't give any when I asked so I assume you agree, so why lump it in with serious self votes?

In this specific scenario

there is good reason to do this as scum

which you ignored and dismissed

when i made a post about it

Enter · Post Post #1412 (isolation #63) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:46 pm

alright I don't have super strong reads cuz I like to read off interacting w/ people but:

town:
enigma
doubtingthomas
elsa
Fuscosco

sort later:
ank
vedith

null-scum:
wisdom

scum:
ofrhz
ausuka
sebrina

Enter · Post Post #1413 (isolation #64) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:46 pm

In post 1411, Ankamius wrote:You missed the post of mine that mattered Enter

relax i was working on it

Enter · Post Post #1414 (isolation #65) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:46 pm

oh also chenn is town

Enter · Post Post #1415 (isolation #66) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:47 pm

everyone else is nulll but it doesn't matter cuz we achieve lynch out of {sebrina, wisdom, ausuka, ofrhz} we win game anyways

Enter · Post Post #1416 (isolation #67) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:47 pm

day at least

Enter · Post Post #1418 (isolation #68) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:48 pm

Enter · Post Post #1420 (isolation #69) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:55 pm

In post 1419, Ankamius wrote:All three of those scumreads are really easy and lynchbaity

And I don't agree with your towncore at all

Idk how to feel about that

ofrhz and wisdom are really easy and lynchbaity?

u and i have different definitions of "easy" i'd hate to see what your hard mode looks like

my scum core determines the rest of my scum core

so flipping them helps me get to other players

other than ausuka

tbh i cna't read ausuka but she looks p scummy to me

Enter · Post Post #1421 (isolation #70) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:59 pm

really i asked to replace in last night but

there were some surprise circumstances that i've been dealing with today that kinda took priority over the thread

so i'm gonna be kinda honest i'm playing at maybe a third capacity right now

surprise circumstances have been dealt with, however

so if you let me interact w/ players i can probably get real reads on them instead of skimming people's iso's and skimming the thread

otherwise just lynch me and you don't have to worry about my reads cuz tbh most of them would be super informational for me in ways that I can explain tomorrow but if for some reason one of them doesn't flip scum it probably won't help you a whole lot unless you understood what I was saying earlier today

Enter · Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:01 pm

In post 1422, Ankamius wrote:Ofrhz is the least lynchbaity of the three but is still a slot that is easy to scumread

That's one reason the Ausuka wagon was so bad, it sat there festering with a terrible wagon composition while the Gamma wagon took all the heat for no reason

That's not a wagon on scum lol

didn't read that far, lol

Enter · Post Post #1429 (isolation #72) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:16 am

Fascinating. I'll take that as intent?

Enter · Post Post #1430 (isolation #73) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:17 am

Really rather not claim since we've already got half the town up atm, but I can

Enter · Post Post #1432 (isolation #74) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:18 am

Nvm. I'm L-2 my b.

Enter · Post Post #1434 (isolation #75) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:20 am

I think they're just put off cuz I'm always awkward until I actually get into things and it usually takes a few rl days to get out of awkward stage

Enter · Post Post #1437 (isolation #76) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:24 am

Ascetic JK

Enter · Post Post #1466 (isolation #77) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:17 am

It's cool. We will get a game together sometime.

Enter · Post Post #1475 (isolation #78) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:27 am

Miscounted, my b

Enter · Post Post #1477 (isolation #79) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:30 am

Shoot me

Enter · Post Post #1499 (isolation #80) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:28 am

I'M a death miller ascetic jk

Enter · Post Post #1501 (isolation #81) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:28 am

There were three vigs in the last xyzzy game

Enter · Post Post #1503 (isolation #82) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:30 am

In post 1499, Enter wrote:I'M a death miller ascetic jk

Actually didn't claim to death miller part first just because I didn't think you'd actually lynch me

Enter · Post Post #1507 (isolation #83) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:40 am

E thenk Fescesce es scem

Enter · Post Post #1518 (isolation #84) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:53 am

Whet es e repeedepe?

Enter · Post Post #1519 (isolation #85) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:54 am

In post 1517, Fuscosco wrote:Actually, a cop on Ausuka sounds good. OR a vig-cop on her. Either, really.

Ets elmest leke E wes reght ebeet her beeng e geed lench tedey

Enter · Post Post #1521 (isolation #86) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:56 am

E dent leke Enter lets lench hem bet E egree w/ ell hes reeds

Enter · Post Post #1525 (isolation #87) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:02 am

In post 1515, Fuscosco wrote:Is Enter really a ropeadoped?

Whet thes

Enter · Post Post #1527 (isolation #88) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:09 am

E dent knew

Enter · Post Post #1528 (isolation #89) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:09 am

Prebeble

Enter · Post Post #1552 (isolation #90) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:55 am

lel
thet mement when e pleyer esks fer semetheng yee leterelly jest pested

Enter · Post Post #1553 (isolation #91) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:56 am

semeene pleese pet enether vete en me jest se we cen meke sere E'm geed end hemmered.

Enter · Post Post #1557 (isolation #92) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:57 am

In post 1555, DoubtingThomas wrote:enter lmk when you are joining another game so i can play w u

LOL
Irony being that I joined the game to hang w/ u and elsa

and found out that ank was here too

super excited to play

unfortunately i rolled scum agin

i always get scum when i replace in

very bad luck, i guess

Enter · Post Post #1559 (isolation #93) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:58 am

usually i try to play to the buzzer, tbh, srry for calling it there but pretty sure i'm hammered at this point

Enter · Post Post #1564 (isolation #94) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:59 am

In post 1555, DoubtingThomas wrote:enter lmk when you are joining another game so i can play w u

Yeah will do

I'd like to get in a game w/ you soon
unfortunately I'm going to be majorly v/la soon time unknown

so I'm kinda scared to join games soon because someone at work could say "alright you're gonna go do some shit for a couple months w/ limited internet access"

and then i gotta go do that shit and I don't wanna replace out of like four games all of a sudden

Enter · Post Post #1571 (isolation #95) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:01 am

In post 1563, DoubtingThomas wrote:you got into a slot in a shitty position. next time we will all play

yeah
I exclusively roll town
replace into scum

every game

it's like you can read me by knowing how i joined the game

lol

also maintaining that i'm death miller don't believe my scum claim, btw

When I come back from going away for a bit I'll definitely hit you up if you're still here

Enter · Post Post #1573 (isolation #96) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:02 am

In post 1565, DoubtingThomas wrote:pm me

k

In post 1567, Ankamius wrote:Davesaz obvscummed, Enter

It wasn't your fault

thanks, makes me feel a little better

i'd still like to think i could ahve turned this around? not sure. oh well

Enter · Post Post #1577 (isolation #97) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:04 am

In post 1568, Wisdom wrote:that makes sabrina and ofhrz town prolly

yes
they're town

so is ausuka

don't lynch any of them

Enter · Post Post #1578 (isolation #98) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:05 am

In post 1576, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1573, Enter wrote:
In post 1565, DoubtingThomas wrote:pm me
k
In post 1567, Ankamius wrote:Davesaz obvscummed, Enter

It wasn't your fault
thanks, makes me feel a little better

i'd still like to think i could ahve turned this around? not sure. oh well
You wouldn't have, I was pretty set on vigging you pretty shortly after you replaced in

I just didn't have enough room to force it

how encouraging

Enter · Post Post #1583 (isolation #99) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:06 am

i don't care about sabrina

don't shoot ausuka or ofrhz pls

they're both town

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:07 am

solid bus there, wisdom

idk

why you didn't just push ofrhz like i wanted you too

srry our scum theatre didn't work out like we wanted

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:07 am

In post 1584, Ankamius wrote:Sabrina is getting shot tonight anyways

i don't care about sabrina

at all

so sure shoot her

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:08 am

In post 1587, Ankamius wrote:Oooooo what about a maria vig

don't shoot maria either

she's town

definitely don't shoot maria

or do

don't read too much into what i'm saying

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:10 am

In post 1589, Ankamius wrote:I'll just shoot your corpse

if you would do me the honor

thanks

also gimme a nice burial

don't take the bullet out of my body

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:10 am

In post 1592, Ankamius wrote:Ngl the timing of wisdom coming back was interesting but that's about it

Still unlikely to be scum

you go girl

you get those reads

you're right wis is town

:3

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:11 am

the funny thing about flipping scum is that you can say whatever you want even if it's true

and people won't believe you

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:12 am

In post 1596, Ausuka wrote:can we ignore enter instead of reading into his wifom thanks

lol

i can't quote her from scum pt right?

nvm

you'll see it after the game it's funny

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:13 am

wait

i mean ausuka is town

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:12 am

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:12 am

taht

is REALLY AWKWARD

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:13 am

Actually really awkward

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:14 am

i feel really uncomfortable right now

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:14 am

i guess that's why you always play until the mod posts the vote count

I'm really sorry guys i shouldnt' have outed myself

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:15 am

In post 1620, Ankamius wrote:lol enter

don't mock me

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:15 am

i know i'm dumb now

ugh

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:16 am

right when i was starting to feel all happy about myself

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:16 am

it has been confirmed that i am the worst mafia player in the history of

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:16 am

>_<

whatever

don't kill wisdom guys he's town

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:16 am

oh look a page top

how convenient

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:17 am

I'd like to thank Alyssa, Firebringer, and the fact that I haven't been in the game more than 24 hours and I'm already one of the top 6 posters

Enter · Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:18 am

and ank hasn't been here that long either and she's right above me