Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
(tbh the main reason I opposed RCE most of the previous days was because I'd feel bad if he flipped town, specially considering he has been doing stuff)
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
In post 1370, stan1ey wrote:^^
ayone still on creature is highly suspect and since lycan is now potentially ignoring my questions (ill give benefit of the doubt if he answers soon) my town read on him is tanking hard
In post 160, Lycanfire wrote:i actually liked that post but then again i had the benefit of reading the thread up to your PC comment, which mades me think you weren't beginning sincere to begin with. what exactly is wrong with sashaddin advancing the game?
why would you make 51 unless you were looking for a post EXACTLY like the one sashaddin replied with?
the answer seems pretty clear to me: that's the bait and switch, like the magic eye of baits and switches that becomes apparent when the gimmick is recognized. you're actually being sincere when you make 51... because you're out to vote anybody that looks like they can be voted as a result of it.
I almost always pick scum immediately out of RVS. Newbie 1717, Newbie 1791, Kidney Mafia, Newbie 1824, Perpetual Mylo III, Mini Normal 1982, Micro 798, Team Mafia. That's just under half my town games. One town game featured Mastina who is totally not in this game derp hammering Alisae by like the end of page 2. Four games were ones I replaced into. 8/12 games relevant games (considering that survivor game to be town bc town would have lost if not for me). If scum are present to scum it up, I find it every time.
He slips away from wagons
I pushed {creature, vedith} yesterday but vedith was the wagon that won out, despite my vote being on creature and asking people about creature.
He reaches his first peak on page 7. Cue two pages of talking about Creature, and profii posts this:
In post 206, profii wrote:Creature spamming one liners is a town tell if he maintains it I guess
Vedith being more important than Creature, page 13 he hits his peak votes
In post 322, rosterfoster wrote:I don't understand this Jbril wagon. But Bujaber, Flippynips, and Creature are town. I'm getting real bad feels from both eyes and Vedith. For eyes, 176 feels wrong to me. 255 from Flippynipps is accuracte I think - that was such a forced interaction. And Vedith has just been trolling, but it's not in a way which actually gets reactions, which I think is what Vedith would be trying to do as town.
VOTE: Vedith
100% agree
Three pages later, Eyes gets 6 votes in a row. Four of those voters were Vedith voters.
Where's Creature? Back on Jibril with you and your bunk mates (BuJaber, Emp). There's a pattern here too.
In post 1301, RCEnigma wrote:Creature poking outside of his counterwagon is +town. Not wanting to Lynch his counterwagon is +town. Him voting flippy is +town regardless of flippys alignment. Creatures alignment also isn't tied to the amount of attention he pays to the game so I don't think him not realizing the votecount in regards to flippy is something I would read either way. However it's more likely he does that as town than informed scum to be cheeky.
Fypov, if town, Creature not voting you is WORSE. If it's you or him that's just another straw on the pile I can add. He's seeing it coming. I already posted my readslist mid day. Here's his ft. scum!you. So why NOT you? Is "RCEnigma town"? Let's check. No not really, but it sure would suck if people did lynch you. Oh, please don't do that! So he votes profii, another unspirited push, which doesn't last because reasons, and sits back on Emp.
All aboard the magic Creature bus
Creature at 3 votes? 2 pages of silence. I vote Creature? Looks like shit's about to get FUCKY.
RCEnigma votes profii (Succinct, Creature, RCEnigma)
Eyes without a face unvotes
Eyes without a face votes profii (Succinct, Creature, RCEnigma, Eyes without a face)
Eyes without a face unvotes
I gave my reads in the middle of the day and didn't want to talk much about it because I was hoping for some sort of response regarding Roster. Enigma gave me enough to be satisfied to post my flux voter theory which I had been thinking about since SOD. You took the same reasoning but ran backwards with the completely opposite conclusion in 821. For whatever reason you're unable to develop good reads despite repeated prompting. If you have all the information I do then why can't you see scum!Creature?
Creature doesn't care about this game
This is more supplementary evidence, but Creature is trying to activate his trust tell or whatever the fuck people are townreading him for. Nothing of what he's saying matters. Also, he's more active than this as town, and frequently chooses to pass over this thread in favor of other games. I don't believe this speaks to his alignment in those other games, but it speaks to his alignment here, because he doesn't want to play because it will jeopardize his trust tell. When he posts here is an avalanche of opinions on XXX 1000th outdated post that he never brings up again and shows no attachment to.
This entire point is garbage that only reinforces his tell, by the way, because in the future he can make his tell look more subjective and avoid his inevitable ban by arguing he posts a lot, even if it's obvious to literate people that everything he says is firey crap. The mods won't care and in the words of Not_Mafia
In post 2208, Lycanfire wrote:0verki11's done two pretty uniquely towny things that come from MU players
The first was promoting a CFD (chinese fire drill) off of Jibril when one was still viable
The other has been providing cover for masons, which is basically commonplace meta there. That's not to say 0verki11 can't do MU-things here that seem vaguely towny in order to sound towny, but at the same time I'm not convinced he isn't a mason, but I imagine we'll have a good idea by the end of day.
Is he still your top scumread?
my main site isnt MU although I have played a couple of games there btw
I mean look how fucking wooden he's been. He's just been coasting on this "scum voted Jibril so I'm going to just POE off that." Now that wagon is mostly flipped or confirmed town. What has he really been doing beyond that?
TBF, half the scum team (lyncan and enigma) AREN'T doing anything.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.