Mini Normal 2066: Catloaves [Game Over!]

[ChibiBear]

VOTE COUNT 1.06

Alacrity

(4): nomnomnom, PenguinPower, GrandWazoo, Not_Mafia

L-2

Eragon

(3): Lovebird, rosterfoster, Locke113

GrandWazoo

(2): u r a person 2, Alacrity

Locke113

(1): Eragon

PenguinPower

(1): themilkcartonkid

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to lynch.

Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2019-03-31 11:00:00)

[Eragon]

i have very limited computer access and im on a weekend vacation rn

ill finish cat catching up on Monday

poor planning skills ftfw

[GrandWazoo]

Urap always scumreads me for bogus reasons. But he usually at least pretends to make some sort of case. Seems to be phoning it in this game.

Alacrity votes me

again

. Since the first vote was embedded in a wall (as usual), maybe she didn't even notice.

[Locke113]

You are talking about a player that has not said a single game-relevant thing since the beginning. That's honestly mind boggling you'd say something like this. And if you say "this is how he plays", you are highlighting exactly why he drives me insane

Based it off the fact he doesn't post often and when he does, it doesn't say much and even when voting alac, he didn't add any reasoning at all, doesn't seem like he's actually trying to persuade anyone to join the wagon, which is what I'd imagine scum would be doing. Not sure whether this falls under playstyle or activeness?

This serves as a perfect opportunity for a scum partner to either A. Prepare to bus the living fuck out of their partner, possibly going so far as hammering their partner before their replacement even catches up or B. Start a completely new wagon/start pushing a much smaller wagon to draw attention away from their scum partner. It's not really conspiracy theory levels, at least not on the level of reptilians, which are totally real

At the time, weren't there only vanity wagons otherwise? I mean, yes these are two opportunities for scum. These aren't the only opportunities...why not just stay on the wagon and wait for it to possibly dissipate? We're 7 days out from the deadline.

Because waiting for it to dissipate is more risky, once a replace out happens, people seem a lot more susceptible to joining new wagons that appear so its any easy way to get attention off your partner. In comparison if you wait, what if your partner's replacement says something further incriminating while everyone's focusing on them, pushing town to just lynch them.

[Locke113]

By keeping your main a secret you are denying us the chance to compare your present play with your town/scum meta. A town player would welcome such scrutiny.

Transparency is only counter-productive to scum.

@Nom

Now this, this right here is conspiracy theory levels

[nomnomnom]

By keeping your main a secret you are denying us the chance to compare your present play with your town/scum meta. A town player would welcome such scrutiny.

Transparency is only counter-productive to scum.

@Nom

Now this, this right here is conspiracy theory levels

I wouldn't say it's conspiracy theory levels, I'd say it's more unnecessary invasive questioning.
Like, I can think of a lot of reasons why you would want to start an alt or in general start a new account and remain secret, that are not related to the game at all. Clearly she does not want to be recognized, so why press the issue for this long?

Like honestly I can't say if he's being invasive because he MUST know who Alacrity are so he will press the issue ad infinitum, or if there's something more to it.

[nomnomnom]

Either way I'd suggest to drop it because it's stupid and extremely rude on top of that

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Grand Wazoo

[Alacrity]

Knowing who I am would not help you read me. =)

[GrandWazoo]

Knowing who I am would not help you read me. =)

Then why the mystery?

You can always create another alt you know.

[GrandWazoo]

By keeping your main a secret you are denying us the chance to compare your present play with your town/scum meta. A town player would welcome such scrutiny.

Transparency is only counter-productive to scum.

@Nom

Now this, this right here is conspiracy theory levels

I wouldn't say it's conspiracy theory levels, I'd say it's more unnecessary invasive questioning.
Like, I can think of a lot of reasons why you would want to start an alt or in general start a new account and remain secret, that are not related to the game at all. Clearly she does not want to be recognized, so why press the issue for this long?

Like honestly I can't say if he's being invasive because he MUST know who Alacrity are so he will press the issue ad infinitum, or if there's something more to it.

You can't enter the game proudly declaring your alt, daring ppl to guess who it is, then complain because someone actually wants to know.

[u r a person 2]

GW,

I asked Alacrity if they were an alt because I wanted to know if my scum-tell was applicable in her case. So they didn't just come in here boasting it. And I think the guess my main bit was the result of her to misreading another one of my posts, as well.

Further, this is really shallow reasoning, and it's pretty common for people to both disclose that they are alts and refuse to disclose their mains. So it isn't scum indicative.

I think it is scummy that you've pushed it, but regardless of your alignment I would suggest that you let it go.

[nomnomnom]

You can't enter the game proudly declaring your alt, daring ppl to guess who it is, then complain because someone actually wants to know.

That's not what happened. Alacrity mentioned it was an alt because urap asked her that.

Good morning! I look forward to playing with all of you today. =)

VOTE: insomnia

@alacrity Are you an alt? what kind of mafia experience do you have?

[/vote]Alacrity[/vote]

We have played before, actually! =)

The following posts also explain why the alt was made and that she didn't want to be recognized, urap dropped the issue fairly quickly afterwards.

We have played before, actually! =)

neat

also bleh

because I have a pet theory that your opening post is scum-indicative for very new players, but not necessarily anyone else.

My first post is there to help me get the footing of how Alacrity talks. I need that, otherwise I get found out too fast.

Is this enough to explain it?

Ah, I actually didn't need explanation outside of knowing this wasn't your first game.

I only have data to signify that it is significant for very new players.

I can't be arsed to try and guess mains, but pm me later if we have a good game? ;P

Feel free to! I want an alt that is not likely to be linked back to me, so knowing what to avoid doing will help.

There was nothing from Alacrity that "dared people to guess her main". The only person that did this is PP and it was jokingly.

Can I guess?

I'll try not to be rude by asking this, but what's your problem, exactly?

[Locke113]

By keeping your main a secret you are denying us the chance to compare your present play with your town/scum meta. A town player would welcome such scrutiny.

Transparency is only counter-productive to scum.

@Nom

Now this, this right here is conspiracy theory levels

I wouldn't say it's conspiracy theory levels, I'd say it's more unnecessary invasive questioning.
Like, I can think of a lot of reasons why you would want to start an alt or in general start a new account and remain secret, that are not related to the game at all. Clearly she does not want to be recognized, so why press the issue for this long?

Like honestly I can't say if he's being invasive because he MUST know who Alacrity are so he will press the issue ad infinitum, or if there's something more to it.

You can't enter the game proudly declaring your alt, daring ppl to guess who it is, then complain because someone actually wants to know.

Its not even you wanting to know that's the problem though, I myself am interested in what her main is but I haven't mentioned it

because it isn't any of my business

. Curiosity isn't the problem here, its how you're expressing your curiosity.

[GrandWazoo]

Ok I'll drop the alt business since it seems NAI here.

Nomnom & Urap still haven't addressed 282

[Alacrity]

I had a response but it appears to no longer be necessary.

I will return later! =)

[u r a person 2]

First of all, it wasn't a misrep. I asked a question.

Why did you give intent to vote Insomnia if you wanted alacrity

So let's stop with your misrep, please.

I saw that you had been scum reading alacrity

but I also Saw that you didn't want to vote insomnia because you were worried about a quickhammer

So I don't understand why your vote wasn't on alacrity

heck you could have done both

and then your answer to my question was not reassuring, either.

Why did you give intent to vote Insomnia if you wanted alacrity

It was a play on the "L-2 is the new L-1" comment. It was clear that wagon would stall after Insom repped out.

This sounds like you were giving half-hearted support to a wagon you didn't really believe in, and without any real purpose because you thought the wagon would fall apart anyway.

And if that's how you felt about Insomnia, then I REALLY don't understand why your vote wasn't on alacrity to begin with?

[GrandWazoo]

First of all, it wasn't a misrep. I asked a question.

No, you insinuated that my Alacrity vote came out of nowhere. It clearly didn't.

I saw that you had been scum reading alacrity

but I also Saw that you didn't want to vote insomnia because you were worried about a quickhammer

Again, I was riffing on Penguin's remark. Not a great riff maybe. I certainly didn't worry about a quickhammer by NM or anyone else since I was already SR Insomnia.

This sounds like you were giving half-hearted support to a wagon you didn't really believe in, and without any real purpose because you thought the wagon would fall apart anyway.

First, I knew the wagon would fall apart because they always do in that situation. Second, I didn't read Insom's rep-out post until after I posted the lame "intent" which was careless on my part. :shrug:

And if that's how you felt about Insomnia, then I REALLY don't understand why your vote wasn't on alacrity to begin with?

Because there's more than one scum in the game obviously. I'm still sus of both slots. Feeling a little better about yours tho - this sounds more like town!Urap.

What's your read on NM? Are occasional shit-takes and naked votes just his meta?

[u r a person 2]

First of all, it wasn't a misrep. I asked a question.

No, you insinuated that my Alacrity vote came out of nowhere. It clearly didn't.

back this up if you're going to continue with it. because it's false.

[u r a person 2]

Again, I was riffing on Penguin's remark. Not a great riff maybe. I certainly didn't worry about a quickhammer by NM or anyone else since I was already SR Insomnia.

So you weren't afraid of a quick hammer
And you actually scum read insomnia
And you were actually supportive of the wagon, which you thought was about to collapse

So you riffed on Penguin's remark instead of voting because you thought that was the best way to stop the wagon from breaking apart? If I'm you with the above givens, I'm voting there every time and pushing a case, ya?

[u r a person 2]

What's your read on NM? Are occasional shit-takes and naked votes just his meta?

Never played with him, but my understanding is that he plays like this, yes. I don't have a read on him.

I am getting more confident that I'm voting scum, though.

Can I get some thoughts from others on GW?

[GrandWazoo]

Again, I was riffing on Penguin's remark. Not a great riff maybe. I certainly didn't worry about a quickhammer by NM or anyone else since I was already SR Insomnia.

So you weren't afraid of a quick hammer
And you actually scum read insomnia
And you were actually supportive of the wagon, which you thought was about to collapse

So you riffed on Penguin's remark instead of voting because you thought that was the best way to stop the wagon from breaking apart?

No I wasn't afraid of a quickhammer. Yes I was SR Insom, but as mentioned Insom wasn't the only SR.

Seriously bro, you're obsessing over what I didn't do, why I didn't do it and when. This is basically what you accuse me of doing with Alacrity - making a big deal over nothing.

[nomnomnom]

Hm...

[Locke113]

Again, I was riffing on Penguin's remark. Not a great riff maybe. I certainly didn't worry about a quickhammer by NM or anyone else since I was already SR Insomnia.

So you weren't afraid of a quick hammer
And you actually scum read insomnia
And you were actually supportive of the wagon, which you thought was about to collapse

So you riffed on Penguin's remark instead of voting because you thought that was the best way to stop the wagon from breaking apart?

No I wasn't afraid of a quickhammer. Yes I was SR Insom, but as mentioned Insom wasn't the only SR.

Seriously bro, you're obsessing over what I didn't do, why I didn't do it and when. This is basically what you accuse me of doing with Alacrity - making a big deal over nothing.

VOTE: Grand Wazoo

[u r a person 2]

VOTE: Grand Wazoo

Wanna talk about it?