STELLARIS MAFIA - [Mafia Win]

[Shadowlesscloud]

Dunn, do you think 0verki11 is town?

[Dunnstral]

I think it's a possibility, yes

[Dunnstral]

If you're town then realistically they're probably both mafia

[Shadowlesscloud]

I think it's a possibility, yes

Can you show why?

P-edit: I believe them both to be mafia yes. That's why I'm wondering why you think otherwise if your being honest

[Dunnstral]

I'm not certain on your alignment
And the general lynch overki11 mentality that other people have makes me hesitant

[Shadowlesscloud]

So you don't disagree with anything that's been brought up against him?

[Dunnstral]

Nothing has been brought up against him except that he changed his claim which is whatever

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VOTECOUNT 3.09

Keyser Soze (1):

Dunnstral (1),

Not Voting (8):

Mephistophanes 39 (1), Despair Galaxy (1), Joan of Arc (1), Shadowlesscloud (1), Eragon (1), Keyser Söze (1), 0verki11 (1), Planetary League of Sol (3)

The player with the most votes upon them at the time of the deadline passes will be lynched.
You have (expired on 2019-03-26 14:57:43) until the deadline.

The number between brackets behind each player's name is their total vote-weight as off now.

Spoiler: Federations

Name:	Members & Target Votes:	Vote-Weight:	Voting For:
Planetary League of Sol	MariaR(1): - Tsuchinoko(1): -	3	-

[Shadowlesscloud]

Nothing has been brought up against him except that he changed his claim which is whatever

He lied about not being in a game with me recently where I was scum. We had just finished a game 6 days before he claimed that where I was not only scum, I was xonsidered by majority of the game to be the mvp scum.

Hes been around and yet his Iso is empty and ony seems to pop in every now and again.

He made a claim about a role. Once I offered a plan including his role that was negative to mafia in every way, he changed it by claiming he forgot an important part of it that would coincidentally cancel part of my plan.

[Shadowlesscloud]

VOTECOUNT 3.09

Keyser Soze (1):

Dunnstral (1),

Not Voting (8):

Mephistophanes 39 (1), Despair Galaxy (1), Joan of Arc (1), Shadowlesscloud (1), Eragon (1), Keyser Söze (1), 0verki11 (1), Planetary League of Sol (3)

The player with the most votes upon them at the time of the deadline passes will be lynched.
You have (expired on 2019-03-26 14:57:43) until the deadline.

The number between brackets behind each player's name is their total vote-weight as off now.

Spoiler: Federations

Name:	Members & Target Votes:	Vote-Weight:	Voting For:
Planetary League of Sol	MariaR(1): - Tsuchinoko(1): -	3	-

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[Dunnstral]

Nothing has been brought up against him except that he changed his claim which is whatever

He lied about not being in a game with me recently where I was scum. We had just finished a game 6 days before he claimed that where I was not only scum, I was xonsidered by majority of the game to be the mvp scum.

Hes been around and yet his Iso is empty and ony seems to pop in every now and again.

He made a claim about a role. Once I offered a plan including his role that was negative to mafia in every way, he changed it by claiming he forgot an important part of it that would coincidentally cancel part of my plan.

I don't consider the top part reasonable suspicion. It's more likely he just forgot. It's NAI to me

Middle part - ok... that applies to Keyser too and a few other people

Last part I think his claim about picking the thing that reduces votes needed to lynch by 1 is scummy and plain stupid. Could definitely be scum, but I think there's reasonable suspicion

[Dunnstral]

so we asked him if someone could use a similiar ability to ours during lylo, (cuz that would be fucking op) and he said the rule applies to any lylo situation

this was still a bold-faced lie even with their recent "oops" but ok

[Shadowlesscloud]

Nothing has been brought up against him except that he changed his claim which is whatever

He lied about not being in a game with me recently where I was scum. We had just finished a game 6 days before he claimed that where I was not only scum, I was xonsidered by majority of the game to be the mvp scum.

Hes been around and yet his Iso is empty and ony seems to pop in every now and again.

He made a claim about a role. Once I offered a plan including his role that was negative to mafia in every way, he changed it by claiming he forgot an important part of it that would coincidentally cancel part of my plan.

I don't consider the top part reasonable suspicion. It's more likely he just forgot. It's NAI to me

Middle part - ok... that applies to Keyser too and a few other people

Last part I think his claim about picking the thing that reduces votes needed to lynch by 1 is scummy and plain stupid. Could definitely be scum, but I think there's reasonable suspicion

Top part is susp considering it was in reference to 0verki11s ability to know my 'scumrange'. He avoided it by saying its been a while since hes been in a game with me where I was scum.

Middle part- yes. Exactly. But 0verki11s iso is worse then Keyser.

Last part - Wasnt even meaning that part. I was referencing the gun part.

[MariaR]

"Taking non adapt means you'll be put on a wagon with 1 other person most likely, you know this Dunn. So when the next day comes you're gonna be asked 'did you gain a point or not' you're not gonna say 'I don't wanna tell you.' You'll be forced to say yes or no.So as a survivor you'd be making a shot in the dark at maybe false clearing mafia. As someone who can clear people with that it makes you a huge target as well. Taking that as survivor is...no
pedit: It's not even nitpicking your choices make no sense as a survivor

Explain to me like I'm 5

Why can't I just say "no" and leave it at that

Why would I claim to receive ap on town before claiming 3rd party?

Taking non adapt means you basically have to out yourself as 3p at one point or you get a lot of false clears that might even get you lynched. As a survivor that is awful. Do you not understand that

[Dunnstral]

I'm allowed to lie about my AP MariaR

[MariaR]

Okay, if you lie and say you got some. That person is 'cleared' and what if you think that person is really mafia later? You have to out yourself.
If you lie and get someone lynched you'll get lynched tomorrow.
Both outcomes are shit for you

[Dunnstral]

I think you're misunderstanding something here

I don't clear other people, I only get ap from lynches...

[Dunnstral]

That person is 'cleared' and what if you think that person is really mafia later? You have to out yourself.
If you lie and get someone lynched you'll get lynched tomorrow.

none of this stuff relates to me in any way

[MariaR]

I think you're misunderstanding something here

I don't clear other people, I only get ap from lynches...

OH. I THOUGHT IT WAS ANY WAGON.
Okay, yeah that's my bad.

[Shadowlesscloud]

I think you're misunderstanding something here

I don't clear other people, I only get ap from lynches...

This still doesnt take into account you may have a Civic that alters how you get AP. But ig i gotta die for people to believe that they are a thing

[Dunnstral]

If you die I'll consider the possibility that I may have a Civic that alters how I get AP

[Mephistophanes 39]

k I'm only 10 pages behind now and I must say there isn't a lot of claiming at that point. Maybe more wil come but whatever I guess.

Nancy and I have talked and we're pretty confident in an Ali hydra, Dunn, MariaR, and Joan townblock so there should be 4 scum in the last 5. This worries me because that means there's likely a scum federation out there and they are pretty powerful if this is the case! I was thinking Shadowless for final town but it's possible 0verki11 is the last green slot so I think we should save them for last. I'dbe most comfortable voting Despair Galaxy today and once again, Nancy agrees.

I'm going to see if I have time to finish my claims spreadsheet and maybe read an Iso or whatever but I make no promises there.

So ya, that's my 2 cents worth.

- Ari, obviously

[Tsuchinoko]

VOTE: 0verki11

[Shadowlesscloud]

k I'm only 10 pages behind now and I must say there isn't a lot of claiming at that point. Maybe more wil come but whatever I guess.

Nancy and I have talked and we're pretty confident in an Ali hydra, Dunn, MariaR, and Joan townblock so there should be 4 scum in the last 5. This worries me because that means there's likely a scum federation out there and they are pretty powerful if this is the case! I was thinking Shadowless for final town but it's possible 0verki11 is the last green slot so I think we should save them for last. I'dbe most comfortable voting Despair Galaxy today and once again, Nancy agrees.

I'm going to see if I have time to finish my claims spreadsheet and maybe read an Iso or whatever but I make no promises there.

So ya, that's my 2 cents worth.

- Ari, obviously

Uh..Dunn already claimed nontown. Or is it a "nonmafiablock"