Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[Near x Mello]

ok i think your defense is bad so i dont think theres any merit in continuing this

[Near x Mello]

i mean, your defense to "these actions are identical to actions you took as scum" is "different players"

how are the players relevant, joan? we are talking about you and your actions. In response to a push of mine. Nothing to do with other players.

[Near x Mello]

also please stop with the whole "you are ignoring me because you cant answer"

i can answer to every single word you say and im sure you know that by now

i am actively choosing not to because we are in a mafia game and nobody cares to watch us fighting

[Near x Mello]

do you wanna know how it feels? like you know im right and are using a silly excuse to avoid answering to the case that condemns you.

[Near x Mello]

also please stop with the whole "you are ignoring me because you cant answer"

i can answer to every single word you say and im sure you know that by now

i am actively choosing not to because we are in a mafia game and nobody cares to watch us fighting

Is this something someone would say to their own scumread?

oh, for sure. this has nothing to do with your alignment.

[Near x Mello]

i said it as soon as you voted mastina and I was reminded of danganronpa

[Near x Mello]

Wisdom was also Town in the game where I SR Joan for the weird association with Alisae, and he (Wisdom) defended her hard. She was scum with Ali as I had pointed out on D1 in that game.

this post by almost made me remember danganronpa

before that i didnt even remember having played with scum you so i had stupidly written you off as town

[Near x Mello]

thats not my case

my case is that youve made the exact same thing as scum

if you had a reason to do it then, you have a reason to do it now

[Near x Mello]

ok.

different question now. the whole playerlist bar you and maybe elena is voting or about to vote mastina. All of these players have played with mastina before (not including the almost replacement, think of almost as representing that slot). Do you think all of these people are bad and unable to read mastina? Why are you holding on to your mastina townread that strongly and bullying everyone who thinks otherwise? Why not think that maybe she's actually scum?

And please don't give me a "no u" answer here.

[Near x Mello]

ive read every post shes made in her entirety and im sure others have too

thats a pretty weak argument

mastina just says a lot of words. more words doesnt mean more town. it just means more words.

[Near x Mello]

There, I answered your question. Will you answer mine now?

which question?

[Near x Mello]

im not ignoring anyone who disagrees with me. When chito disagreed with my reads in channel5 i discussed them with him. same for almost, same for torque, cerb, everyone.

i am ignoring you, specifically. why? because your townread on mastina is baseless. you just quote her posts and say "this is town" with no reasoning as to why that is, leaving me to assume that you are either townreading the effort she is putting in (not alignment indicative), the length of her posts (not alignment indicative), or the ate in her posts (not alignment indicative, more scum if anything). Or, even worse, you are just "townreading" her because I am pushing her and you want to be contrary to me due to personal dislike.

therefore, i cant but ignore you and focus my efforts in talking with people who actually will listen to reason

[Near x Mello]

as for why im ignoring mastina

mastina is who i am pushing. mastina can answer any of my arguments for her being scum with "this is false because i know im not scum". its not productive to try and convince my scumread that they are scum. they are going to fight no matter how strong my arguments are. and when we are talking about a skilled, manipulative scum like mastina is, providing her with more chances to respond to things will only work against me.

therefore, what i do is only respond to things that i feel are manipulative enough to convince people, so i can combat them. the rest i can ignore.

[Near x Mello]

you're manipulating the replacement into voting her before he can make a decision of who he scumreads or doesn't scumread on his own.

ill give you this, you are right here. normally id want the replacement to make the decision on their own.

however, not in this gamestate. we are finally about to get the lynch ive wanted forever and the main other person who wants this lynch suddenly replaces out and is replaced by someone who unvotes. i cannot really accept this. i just want the lynch to happen.

besides, im so certain almost is town that there isnt really much i want to see from the replacement. i just want him to not be dumb and not make the scum lynch take longer.

[Near x Mello]

Besides, you want me to scumread and vote her, yet when I did that, you immediately scumread me for it. Which means it's 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario. I defend her? You ignore me. I say 'fuck it' and vote her? You scumread me.

Once again, I scumread you for your vote because it's the exact same thing you've done in the past as scum.

If you reconsidered and accepted mastina could be scum, and voted her for that instead of things like "i will get to gloat" then I wouldnt scumread you.

[Near x Mello]

Furthermore, she is a townread. You saying I should just let my townread get lynched without even trying to defend them? :/

no, im all for defending townreads.
But when every other person in the game is telling you your townread is wrong, maybe you should consider it's wrong.
Have you done that once?

[Near x Mello]

What reason? What 'reason' did you give? All I saw is you repeating over and over 'she is scum', never once explaining why or bothering to quote the parts of her posts you think are scummy and explain why those parts are scummy.

look. normally, I don't do this sort of thing at all. I don't believe in "cases" because if you really want to, you can find scum motivation in any iso you want. what I do instead is talk to people in real time and expose their scumminess through interactions. then i hope people see what i wanted them to see.
i feel having to spoonfeed people "cases" is forced and i dont do it.

despite that, you are wrong that i havent done it. In 3587 through 3589 i pushed myself to provide some reasoning mastina is scum.

but again, thats not how i work. all of my posts that respond to something mastina says are in actuality reasoning for why shes scum. they just don't look the part.

[Near x Mello]

Mastina: "Almost is scum because he said he would talk to Drixx on D4/D5 and Drixx died

What's wrong with this reasoning? It's a pretty reasonable stance from where I stand.

I don't see anything reasonable in there. Drixx could have died due to a thousand reasons, most notably for his counterclaim on Vedith. Yet mastina connected it to Almost for stupid reasons like the quoted.

[Near x Mello]

I haven't seen you ask yourself 'what if she is town? what if I am wrong?' and create some sort of back-up plan for that scenario.

You are wrong. A few pages back I considered mastina could be town and was considering chito/elena and chito/RP scumteams. You know that because you mentioned it yourself.

[Near x Mello]

I haven't seen you ask yourself 'what if she is town? what if I am wrong?' and create some sort of back-up plan for that scenario.

You are wrong. A few pages back I considered mastina could be town and was considering chito/elena and chito/RP scumteams. You know that because you mentioned it yourself.

Then why abandon your scumread on Chito/Elena so easily? You seem awfully inconsistent here for someone who is that sure of your own scumreads. So 'fess up.

Because mastina is scummy and has to die. If she flips town, I can return to these alternative thoughts then.

[Near x Mello]

It is a perfectly reasonable stance and it is a simple explanation too.

no it really isnt, it's a load of bullshit. people dont die because almost cant respond to something.

the fact you believe it isnt shows we have completely different metrics and thus we cannot communicate.

[Near x Mello]

Your whole modus operandi is 'hammer onto the things which strengthen my arguments, while ignore things that don't'. You even admitted to that:

therefore, what i do is only respond to things that i feel are manipulative enough to convince people, so i can combat them. the rest i can ignore.

if thats what you took away from that we are done here and can go back to regular

i once again tried to reason with you because im stupid

[Near x Mello]

im not claiming today. maybe tomorrow.

[Near x Mello]

nope

[Near x Mello]

what about the abyss, is it a result of someone else targeting you?

[Near x Mello]

this is pretty plausible

[Near x Mello]

If elena is scum, mastina, joan, and c&y are town.

what

All of those make sense as scum with elena

[Near x Mello]

well Chito can be removed

[Near x Mello]

what arrangement

mastina has never really pushed elena

at the beginning she was in her townreads for no reason and lately she became a leftover scumread who could have no buddies so she never pushed it

the only push was at the beginning of today who according to torque looks fabricated on both sides

[Near x Mello]

its either mastina/elena or joan/elena

it aint that hard, everyone else is town

[Near x Mello]

because pb is town

[Near x Mello]

I am BP now. It's my reward for doing what I did.

heres an alternative explanation for who killed dunn

[Near x Mello]

Nah. Arguing with me gives you things to post about, plus ive been stubbornly townreading you. Without me youd lurk.

[Near x Mello]

You didnt kill me in Danganronpa either.

[Near x Mello]

i dont want to ignore you

i want you to see pb, torque and almost are locktown and shouldnt be considered for scumteams

[Near x Mello]

sigh you make me feel like the game started 5 pages ago

[Near x Mello]

perhaps if you read them yourself and didnt need me to spoonfeed you wed all be happy

everyone besides you agrees on torque and pb and ive explained why almost is town way more than i should

[Near x Mello]

VOTE: Elena

[Near x Mello]

did torque say hes tracking you

[Near x Mello]

Liger thats the whole reason we're voting her. Youre not paying attention

[Near x Mello]

then maybe you didnt target pb at all, thus dodging torque

after all we dont have confirmation you targeted pb

[Near x Mello]

still not confirmed for anyone but you

[Near x Mello]

you said torque said he can confirm your target if you targeted pb or joan
That doesn't equal "im targeting you"

[Near x Mello]

i mean, joan claimed bp
could easily just be joan who killed
but elena is still scum regardless

[Near x Mello]

watcher is what i would be getting from that too. So targeting dunn was safe

[Near x Mello]

i think joan claimed bp to save elena maybe

[Near x Mello]

I am BP now. It's my reward for doing what I did.

[Near x Mello]

Joan claimed it right after chito caught the mech thing

I can see it as trying to lure suspicion from elena onto her

[Near x Mello]

elena is not mechanically inclined in my experience

[Near x Mello]

you thought dunn targeting you makes you conftown from what i recall

so you misunderstood something

[Near x Mello]

probably

[Near x Mello]

we already asked you for your reads and we already discussed your buddy

[Near x Mello]

i think cerb wants to wait on mastina
otherwise we're ready

[Near x Mello]

4 i believe

[Near x Mello]

not grounds for unvoting

[Near x Mello]

Making mastina loved could be an attempt to buddy mastina, it does not necessarily point to being partners.

Joan's BP claim right after Chito caught the mech thing is more damning. It looks like she wanted to save Elena by attracting attention to herself.

Either way, it's one of them.

[Near x Mello]

yay this will take forever

[Near x Mello]

yep i did fuck up. But you are 100% scum via poe at this point, with your buddy being most likely chito

[Near x Mello]

i assume mastina is a vig shot?

lets massclaim actually

[Near x Mello]

pink says who starts, then popcorn

[Near x Mello]

considering this is mylo, we cant just trust a track, no

[Near x Mello]

yeah thats impossible, besides vig Joan never shoots rp over me

[Near x Mello]

who do you think is scum with her?

[Near x Mello]

pink joan is scum like 99% of the time here, i agree

but its also mylo. If torque is fakeclaiming a guilty game is over. Dont you think we should play it safe and massclaim?

[Near x Mello]

I believe everyone has claimed their role at this point? It's pretty obvious that liger Zero shot mastina, and I'm super glad he did

no, lots of unclaimed things. Do we know chito's full role for instance?

[Near x Mello]

also liger zero was saying mastina isnt scum, wasnt he? How is it obvious he shot him

[Near x Mello]

disgusting but its exactly how she plays as town. If anything, she did well emulating it

[Near x Mello]

liger prolly cant post for a week though

[Near x Mello]

anyway joan and chito fullclaims

[Near x Mello]

thats not a full claim. Claim everything your role had.

[Near x Mello]

i said i fucked up

[Near x Mello]

yep i did fuck up.

[Near x Mello]

full claim go

[Near x Mello]

not a full claim

VOTE: joan

[Near x Mello]

torque tracked you to cerb last night

explain

[Near x Mello]

ok

every role that has flipped and every role that has been claimed has at least three abilities that unlock on different nights

youre saying yours doesnt?

[Near x Mello]

ok why are you not voting torque

[Near x Mello]

that makes no sense. torque is confscum to you, im not

[Near x Mello]

ok we're done with joan

chito fullclaim next

[Near x Mello]

UNVOTE:

[Near x Mello]

N3 I would prefer not to say unless absolutely needed

yes it is needed. its mylo.

[Near x Mello]

was the pgo thing a lie?

and please detail what unlocked when

[Near x Mello]

how come you have four actions as opposed to the three everyone else has?

[Near x Mello]

meaning you can cop again tonight?

[Near x Mello]

no problem, flavor is known

VOTE: no lynch

[Near x Mello]

good. you'll cop liger, who is confirmed to still be Kirito via restriction.

[Near x Mello]

torque full claim please

[Near x Mello]

Chito: likelihood of scum double kill should be low?

it should be, yes. but i dont see who is scum if you arent here.

[Near x Mello]

what does the ability you received do?

[Near x Mello]

Chito: So torque can't watch me, so the only benefit of nl is that I die and we go back to odds?

if you die youre off the poe and we're in mylo with a conftown
sounds good to me

[Near x Mello]

what does the ability you received do?

Isn't that YOUR ability

is it? mastina gave you something too and was town.

its time to claim it.

[Near x Mello]

mylo

lylo*

[Near x Mello]

no thats mastina's after all.

[Near x Mello]

ok my turn

we have alternating actions. on even nights we use itaro's abilities, on odds we use rintaro's

starting n2 we autocommute on even nights
starting n3 we send a dmail to someone, which protects them from a single kill for the following two nights
starting n4 we investigate if someone has access to the scum pt. we can do that in addition to commuting

we sent a dmail to torque n3, we investigated mastina n4.

[Near x Mello]

so now we wait for liger to full claim and then we nl

pink doesnt have to claim unless he thinks he has something useful to add

[Near x Mello]

if they had a 1shot vig, it was the one on mastina.

[Near x Mello]

3 scum or a 3p are pretty much impossible

we're definitely nolyching so chito can be sorted.

[Near x Mello]

nothing, we had no action

[Near x Mello]

torque who is scum with joan?

[Near x Mello]

he obviously kept it

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he still had the restriction yesterday so he didnt switch

[Near x Mello]

torque cannot die tonight

its you or pb

no dodging.

[Near x Mello]

because ive given him protection for n4 and n5

[Near x Mello]

no

i give protection for the following two nights. not the one i send it.

so n3 = protection on n4 and n5

[Near x Mello]

why would i not when i can sort you via night actions

[Near x Mello]

chito who is joan's buddy?

[Near x Mello]

UNVOTE:

we wait for liger first

[Near x Mello]

joan if youre town here you really have to stop talking

you make your position worse and the likelihood we'll consider torque scum tiny

[Near x Mello]

you can post in youtube hq, cant you?

[Near x Mello]

clarify what

[Near x Mello]

dunno, what do you think i meant

[Near x Mello]

The benefit of nl is chito is sorted
Im not choosing between torque and joan until that. It can be either of them

[Near x Mello]

if you flip green it prolly means theyre both scum

but that aint happening

[Near x Mello]

this certainty is called poe

almost is never scum and im assuming torque/joan is not scum/scum

[Near x Mello]

because then i can cop torque and win

[Near x Mello]

i dont care. Flip green and let me worry about my problems. Not giving you your win today.

[Near x Mello]

i dont think im being vague

we nl and then lynch you if youre not dead tomorrow

Then i cop torque for the last one

[Near x Mello]

if i was scum here id mislynch joan

its stupid to do anything else

[Near x Mello]

and if i was scum with joan id still lynch joan then win 4p at my leisure

[Near x Mello]

lol

[Near x Mello]

i should just lynch you and blame you if you flip town like every sane person would do

but no, im accounting for you being terrible because i dont want to lose this game

and thats what i get

[Near x Mello]

in simpler terms

im the only one who doesnt want your lynch here, joan. Do you realise that?

[Near x Mello]

unbelievable

[Near x Mello]

i mean, you want to lynch joan instead of copping almost

must be wisdom's fault

[Near x Mello]

yeah youre scum

repeating torque's fearmongering about 1shot scum vig

[Near x Mello]

as if theres any chance of one existing on top of yours

[Near x Mello]

i think its pretty obviously you and torque at this point

[Near x Mello]

Like i dont fucking care if you call me joan's buddg or what

I refuse to believe scum joan can fake this much stupidity so consistently

[Near x Mello]

ok im sincerely speechless if you turn out to be town honestly believing these things you just wrote

like, fucking unbelievable

[Near x Mello]

you're just a garbage human

thanks a lot, that's real mature, judging people from how they play a game

even joan doesn't stoop that low

[Near x Mello]

i was talking to chito

[Near x Mello]

Joan, once again. Everyone wants to lynch you. I am the only one considering that Torque might be scum faking the guilty on you. Are you sure fighting me is what you should be doing right now?

[Near x Mello]

Torque had literally no reason to instigate a mechanical 1v1 with Joan before massclaim

except for you know, mislynching joan and winning

[Near x Mello]

sigh

[Near x Mello]

i do not want to play with you again if youre town, no
calling me a garbage player is completely unfair here, let alone "garbage human"
if those are genuine words... I dont know. I am struggling to say anything here.

[Near x Mello]

The way I see it, scum are among you, Chito and Torque.

To be clear, Wisdom, you want to give this a day.

Torque instigates a mechanical 1v1 and instead of solving around that, she is still acting like she is sorting Torque.

Like she could not be more obviously scum here but you are hung up on the fact that I am rightfully pissed at you. So either you are scum, or you have an immense amount of cognitive dissonance about how obnoxious you have been this game.

No because town Joan totally says that

Its not scummy for her. Nothing she has posted is. The only thing thats actually scummy is her bp claim because of the dunn kill.

Im not affected by your bs at all, btw. Because youre wrong, my reads arent based on personal matters.

[Near x Mello]

if something can be sorted by night actions, you sort it by night actions

literally nothing to do with how i personally feel about you

[Near x Mello]

you can insult me as much as you like

i still will do whats best for the town's chances

[Near x Mello]

really? which town death am i responsible for?

Creature, who i called town all game?
Gamma, who i called town all game?

[Near x Mello]

Elena, who everyone thought her actions point to her for the dunnstral kill? Is that somehow on me too?

Or mastina getting vigged is somehow my doing as well?

[Near x Mello]

still doesnt make me responsible for anything

[Near x Mello]

The only reads ill accept responsibility on are almost and you. These are completely on me, and if town ends up losing because you or almost are scum then yes, i am to blame

But all the rest? No. These were consensus reads and im not to blame for them.

[Near x Mello]

Joan do you comprehend what 5596 is saying?

Let me help.

"If I was this egoistic person youre portraying me as, caring nothing about town but just his own ego, what I would do here is just go with the flow and lynch you. Everyone wants you lynched, so I wouldnt be blamed at all if you flipped town, and I would still be able to gloat about being right about townreading you for the whole game.

Instead, I am not doing that, because I am not that person. I want town to win this. And town won't win this if you are town and you are lynched. So I am trying to avoid that, because I still think you are town here.

And yet, despite me being your only supporter here, in addition to being the only one who isnt shallowly scumreading you for your play, what I get from you is insults and a vote. To the point where you have someone fakeclaiming a guilty on you, in mylo, and yet I am still a better vote for you."

[Near x Mello]

The only reads ill accept responsibility on are almost and you. These are completely on me, and if town ends up losing because you or almost are scum then yes, i am to blame

But all the rest? No. These were consensus reads and im not to blame for them.

People only scumread mastina because you forced them to.

wrong. People scumread mastina because she was scummy. I was just the most vocal.

[Near x Mello]

i considered you might be scum for what, 1/32th of a day? Does it cancel out the fact I have insisted you are town for the rest of a 226 page game?

[Near x Mello]

Like, you know, the thing you keep tellng me to do? Consider my reads might be wrong?

I considered my townread on you might be wrong. Yet you use that too to attack me?

[Near x Mello]

Cerb wanted you gone, and the entire rest of the graveyard wanted A50 gone who you insist is locktown and refuse to re-evaluate, so yeah, at this point it's a lot easier for me to simply say I blame you if you're town if this is a loss, and you can easily be scum since you refuse to lynch Joan, yet another scum lynch you are choking on for no good reason

ill gladly take the blame if town loses to joan or almost
but blaming me for the gamestate up to NOW is bullshit.

[Near x Mello]

and as a "self-commuter who can still target people" your role basically gives explanation for why you could have killed Dunn and lived

dunn died on n3
unless youre arguing im lying about commuting on even nights

[Near x Mello]

i reconsidered my read on mastina too, we've already talked about that

[Near x Mello]

I don't know what else to say.

You dont need to say. You need to think. What wins this game for town. Pushing me doesnt. Im trying to prevent the mislynch that ends the game here.

[Near x Mello]

Maybe you should consider that you're the one to blame rather than blaming everyone else for your own shortcomings?

When im to blame ill accept it
Right now theres nothing to blame me for

[Near x Mello]

i reconsidered my read on mastina too, we've already talked about that

If you truly reconsidered, then you wouldn't have gone back to voting her the moment Almost laid out a case on her.

shrug, he convinced me. Mastina refusing to step out of her tunnels and work with me didnt help.

[Near x Mello]

I don't know what else to say.

You dont need to say. You need to think. What wins this game for town. Pushing me doesnt. Im trying to prevent the mislynch that ends the game here.

If you're town, then quit posturing, and get your head out of its hidey hole, and vote one of Chito/Torque.

Or we can wait for liger to claim any information he has, then nolynch to get even more information.
Instead of lynching blindly.
Crazy, right?

[Near x Mello]

Maybe you should consider that you're the one to blame rather than blaming everyone else for your own shortcomings?

When im to blame ill accept it
Right now theres nothing to blame me for

Except for scumreading mastina when she was clearly town and accepting no alternatives.

except she wasnt clearly town
Mastina is a crazy good manipulative scum and reading her is not easy

[Near x Mello]

I don't know what else to say.

You dont need to say. You need to think. What wins this game for town. Pushing me doesnt. Im trying to prevent the mislynch that ends the game here.

If you're town, then quit posturing, and get your head out of its hidey hole, and vote one of Chito/Torque.

Or we can wait for liger to claim any information he has, then nolynch to get even more information.
Instead of lynching blindly.
Crazy, right?

Says someone who unvoted the no-lynch the instant I agreed it could be the possibility.

I unvoted so it doesnt get hammered before liger can post
It doesnt mean i changed my mind

[Near x Mello]

Did you forget his restriction? He cant post for a week

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can i even do otherwise at this point?

scum are trying to mislynch you for the win and the conftown agrees with them

i have to work with you whether i like it or not

[Near x Mello]

did i have a part in mastina dying? sure

is it solely and absolutely my blame like chito and you are presenting it? hell no

does that answer it

[Near x Mello]

Instead of lynching blindly.
Crazy, right?

>insists that reads on a mechanical 1v1 in a 200+ page game are "blind"
>thinks a no lynch that almost certainly results in a single additional green flip will resolve this when the other 200 pages and dozen flips won't
>insists that other slots are locktown/etc. based on that same set of 200+ pages
>still hasn't explained why Torque is scum other than "because Joan does too much AtE to be scum"

So the proper play is "lynch joan because she looks like scum more than torque" and ignore everything else, right?

[Near x Mello]

every town in a losing game are partially to blame

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it could be that torque is bussing joan
or that im wrong on almost
but they are the closest thing to lockscum, yes

[Near x Mello]

thats uncommon enough that doesnt worry me

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and given chito, who is the most likely to be scum, already used a vig shot.. the chances are nonexistent

[Near x Mello]

basically scum dont have 2 kills with chito also having a kill

thats too many kills

[Near x Mello]

@pink if you liked death note watch code geass

[Near x Mello]

every town in a losing game are partially to blame

Except that is not the tone you take when saying if we flip Joan and she flips town that you blame her.

cute attempt to reignite joan
that wasnt even the point i was making in that post

[Near x Mello]

And now because wisdom doesn't like me pushing back on his agenda

Still a misrep. That has nothing to do with me scumreading you

[Near x Mello]

When does wisdom as town go an entire game pushing exactly 0 wolves?

I was right about ooba, so thats wrong as well

[Near x Mello]

Whats important to note here is that chito is against information

waiting for liger is bad, no lynching is bad, everything that provides information is bad.

what is good? Quicklynching joan.

If thats not typical of a scum eager to get the win i dont know what is.

[Near x Mello]

i don't see how the lylo is forced

if you get a guilty on liger and live i will hear you out

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and it makes zero sense to me that you dont see im town

scum me never proposes a no lynch here when i can just win. Say PB was hiding a doc power and they decide to protect you while you cop me. I lose. Why the hell would i allow that instead of just lynching

[Near x Mello]

but all we know from the slot is that he has claimed to only get one ability over the entire game that has yet to be claimed

Isnt that reason to wait for him?

[Near x Mello]

all the double kill and daykill fear mongering has to stop. Thats not happening and is only an excuse against optimal play.

[Near x Mello]

given she hasn't claimed still

she did actually

[Near x Mello]

and im not ignoring the chances you are town

If that was the case id be lynching you today

[Near x Mello]

p-edit: It does. N1, I've uncovered the ability to be shattered (become a treestump for a day) if lynched. N2 I've uncovered the ability to force-shatter myself. N3, I became bulletproof as a result of being shattered.

[Near x Mello]

He says he is willing to reconsider but, lol, please.

a+ argument

why am i waiting for him to full claim and not no lynch right now?

[Near x Mello]

chito would rather talk about lynching you

[Near x Mello]

then chito is still scum? dont get your question

[Near x Mello]

Wait, since when are you a cop? I thought Chito is the cop.

read my full claim again

[Near x Mello]

not my point

at some point you need to sort me vs joan and if we nl here and you die, we're still just lynch joan at one point
what's the difference if we just did that now

im not dying over a cop and a conftown, no worries.

[Near x Mello]

yep, cant die on even nights

[Near x Mello]

fmab is also a must see

[Near x Mello]

happy cake

[Near x Mello]

scumday != birthday

btw yuuri, you got no comments on the game?

[Near x Mello]

i expected more reasonable things from you

if you just agree with chito it just makes me think its a scum agenda.

[Near x Mello]

the agenda is to lynch joan and win

youre being unreasonable because nolynch is optimal play, waiting for liger should be a nobrainer and i make zero sense as scum

and being sure about joan over torque is stupid but i cant blame you on that

[Near x Mello]

No lynching is a bad idea, there's 0 benefit to letting us die before resolving that

like, right here.
reasonable people understand that dying while being suspected in mylo is a good thing for town.
failing to see this means youre either stupid or not town.
Both of you failing to see this? Im not buying youre both stupid, so one real option.

[Near x Mello]

if you flip town it means either torque/joan are scum/scum and thus we dont actually have to choose, or liger is scum. Thus it brings reconsideration. Because its information. That we dont have right now.

Or in other words

If I pick right now ill pick based on you being scum. If you are not scum, ill probably pick wrong.

[Near x Mello]

lol ok. thank you for your input.

[Near x Mello]

because youre objectively wrong and i dont feel like wasting my time arguing with scum

[Near x Mello]

oh dont misrep me. Youre not an idiot. You just have a red pm.

[Near x Mello]

I've read everything and I declare myself a useless piece of shit towards this game

from a perspective of a useless piece of shit

whats better

to have chito flip as town and recalibrate before choosing in torque/joan

or to just do it now

i just feel like this is obvious but i wanna make sure it isnt just me

[Near x Mello]

i suppose thats one way of looking at it

[Near x Mello]

i didn't join any game youre in, did i?

[Near x Mello]

uh no
if youre referring to gif's game, it's just a game i wanna play
nothing to do with you

[Near x Mello]

hi indeed

[Near x Mello]

this one week restriction is really silly

it should at least not be active in mylo/lylo

[Near x Mello]

but with a conftown slot

if pink ball dies you get a free investigation and basically solve the game

yet you are against it

[Near x Mello]

also i disagree with everything you said about joan but thats obvious and doesnt have to be repeated