Newbie 1920: North America [Endgame]

[scum reading]

Or idk jeez

[northsidegal]

A lynch has been achieved!

VC 3.Final

Maroon Lake, Aspen, Colorado

votes

[3] Zeito

:

Persivul 1096, Skellen 1168, scum reading 1169

[1] scum reading

:

chennisden 1137

[1] Not Voting

:

Zeito

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch

The Day 3 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-03-26 22:27:59)

Mod Notes

:

[northsidegal]

Zeito was lynched. He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

Night 3 begins now and ends in (expired on 2019-03-25 15:59:59).

[northsidegal]

chennisden was killed. He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

[northsidegal]

VC 4.0

Alstrom Point, Lake Powell, Utah

votes

[3] Not Voting

:

Skellen, scum reading, Persivul

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch

The Day 4 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-04-01 14:05:59)

Mod Notes

:

[scum reading]

I'm gonna have brain damage after this game

[scum reading]

Nobody votes anyone prematurely.

[scum reading]

Well, I'm going to start like this.

When Zeito flipped town, my immediate reaction was "Persivul is scum 100%" and I was so convinced about it, I remember taking a hot shower and my shower thoughts were "Yes we won, there's no way persivul's not scum"

Then I imagined what the LyLo formation would be. I thought it would've been me/chennisden/Persivul. If the formation would've been like that, then Persivul would've been immediately lynched. I think he realised that as well, so he needed to kill the person that he townread. The LyLo formation couldn't have been me/chennisden/Persivul for the simple reason that he town read us both.

The reason I scum read Persivul immediately after the lynch was "Ok, he didn't want to push the easiest mislynch bait because he needed him in LyLo" but I got a huge ass slap on the face.

I also don't get why the formation is like this and not with chennisden because he scum read me really hard.

Skellen has also pushed me, so she needed him alive with me if she wanted it to be easy.

So the chennisden kill only makes sense from a Persivul PoV.

I'm not voting until deadline though, I have to think this further

These are just my thoughts for the dead people that are watching

It's also late, if my post is trash, in my mind I make perfect sense xD

[Persivul]

I would have bet a hundred bucks the NK would be me or Skellen. This is fucked up, but really interesting.

[scum reading]

FoS is on Persivul for now though, because of the NK and also his Zeito push.

On retrospect, this formation makes a whole lot of sense from a Persivul point of view. Skellen scum reads me and Persivul didn't defend Skellen as town like he did with chennisden. I think he wanted me to doubt Skellen because I've said in the beginning that I always suspect lurkers and pushed that idea throughout the game.

[scum reading]

I would have bet a hundred bucks the NK would be me or Skellen. This is fucked up, but really interesting.

I thought it would've been me, why am I alive, scum just tortures me

[scum reading]

Persivul, wanna comment on my thought process at all?

[scum reading]

I would have bet a hundred bucks the NK would be me or Skellen. This is fucked up, but really interesting.

Why would it have been obvious for one of you to die? I'm assuming this implies either me/chennis would've been scum.

You townread both me and chennis and you didn't put Skellen as a scum read at all. Why'd you think that?

You also were the one to push Zeito, I didn't lead the push and neither has skellen / chennisden, I just backed you up on it because you reminded me of it.

What were your thoughts going through the night phase?

[Persivul]

Persivul, wanna comment on my thought process at all?

No. You were my second choice as scum yesterday. Now you're my first, but I need to review Skellen.

[scum reading]

Persivul, wanna comment on my thought process at all?

No. You were my second choice as scum yesterday. Now you're my first, but I need to review Skellen.

Why not?

[Skellen]

Ugh, I feel like Persivul in this.

The chennis kill is not what I was expecting. Thinking this through though, I think I can make some sense out of it. chennis was townread by me and Persivul for the votes he got by ASC late Day 1 and during Day 2. Considering only one of us two could have been killed it would have been unlikely that one surviving would turn against chennis (can't speak for Persivul here though, feel free to correct).

My PoE from last day results in SR fo the lynch today, which both my head and guts tell me too at the moment. Then again scum should have known this too. Blergh, and again through the thread rereading both of you.

[Persivul]

scum, you know the chenn and urap kills heavily implicate you, right?

[scum reading]

scum, you know the chenn and urap kills heavily implicate you, right?

Haha, first off : Implicate =/= Actually being involved.

Second: The only thing that “implicates” me slightly is the chennis kill, because he accused me. What do you know, I wanted him dead long before. You’re abusing the fact that chennisden was heavily accusing me, even though his thoughts were conflicted. So he wasn’t even really pushing me that much. Your “implication” comes from the fact that I kill the people that say “scum reading is scum”

Third : Urap kill doesn’t “implicate” me in any way. I’ve pushed ASC before his entry in the game, day one.

This makes sense from your pov only if you choose to ignore actions and focus on specific posts that say “Scum reading is probably scum”.

These are thoughts that can change at any time and they can change over the course of a night phase (chennisden’s case)

You’re using people’s thesis from the time they were still in the game to throw shade at me.

Actions speak louder than words.

You’re choosing to focus on specific posts that have represented people’s thoughts at that time and disregard actions that refute your “implication” case you’ve got going on.

That’s faulty logic.

[Persivul]

I read Skellen's ISO and there's no way I would vote that before SR. If Skellen's scum, hats off to her.

I'll wait for last words from both of you, but then I'm voting SR.

p-edit: my mind's made up, it's up to Skellen now.

[Persivul]

Your “implication” comes from the fact that I kill the people that say “scum reading is scum”

Oops.

[scum reading]

What oops? Isn’t that your accusation?

Way to throw shade

[scum reading]

Disregard solid cases and touch on bits that can be distorted in order to manipulate.

According to the wiki, that’s what scummies do

[Persivul]

Skellen, if you're scum, gg.

VOTE: scum reading

[scum reading]

Persivul, wanna comment on my thought process at all?

No. You were my second choice as scum yesterday. Now you're my first, but I need to review Skellen.

Why not?

Question’s still not answered and you misdirected. Does it make too much sense and you had to redirect the attack on to me?

Does it make you look scum a bit?

[scum reading]

VOTE: Persivul

Don’t place a vote until you re-read this page carefully, Skellen.