micro 858: silver 3 (ended game)

[Merry and Pippin]

More ai content but that requires more talking so it's an interconnected issue atm.

I'm waiting to hear more of what star. Has to say.

And why exactly are you voting icon, Jungle? I'm Sorry if I missed it if you already explained it.

this bit is pinging me as town

[Merry and Pippin]

the convo between vedith and roster on the bottom of page11 does not feel svs imo; like vedith feels almost buddying? pocketing? of roster there and is trying to get him to townread him
also 274 is kidna like the first post i liked from roster; not sure scum is quite so transparent tbh

[Merry and Pippin]

almost tbh imo

i read this and wanted to vote them before i realized they were my slot

[Merry and Pippin]

JM you not scumreading the fact that I have barely been present in this game makes me a lot less comfortable about your slot

no they're town

[Merry and Pippin]

[quote="In post 284, StarwingBeauvoi"][/quote]

i don't particularly like this post; it's a whole lot of hedging

like the second paragraph where she goes over rvs is a lot of iioa - it's more a summary of what happened than anything else; she doesn't actually form a read on what happened there

like there's a lot of words and statements and thoughts but not that many stances or opinons. like i know what she thinks about a lot of the players and what they said but not what she thinks about their *alignments* really besides for like a townread on me (but rc might be scum pocketing jm!) and maybe on brass and draco.
and after all of that she just unvotes and doesn't really seem to have a scurmead or anything

[Merry and Pippin]

whoops sorry for the broken quote

[Merry and Pippin]

JM you not scumreading the fact that I have barely been present in this game makes me a lot less comfortable about your slot

you feeling this way is making me feel more comfortable about your slot because i was getting a little paranoid earlier especially about some of the stuff skitter was saying.

do tell

[Merry and Pippin]

Jungle, talk to me. Give me the 3 obvtown players you were referring to at that point.

again, the third obvtown player was referring to themselves

also @ jungle why are you scumreading ico rn?

[Merry and Pippin]

Gemini, Vedith, Draco townreads

why vedith

[Merry and Pippin]

Merry is scum, btw

i'm pippin, right?

the walls are me; i think i was around one night last week too
posts with 'btw' or 'ngl' or 'tbh' or 'imo' are prob me too
i don't capitalize
everything in this stretch of posts is me

[Merry and Pippin]

I think the pippin head made 171, which would make the slot more towny

yeah 171 was me
(all walls are me pretty much always)

[Merry and Pippin]

VOTE: starwing beauvoi

i'll vote here, if skitter really doesn't want it we can vote vedith again.

i like vedith more but i think i'm ok with this for now tbh

[Merry and Pippin]

Where's my vote right now?

JM's 291 reads super scummy to me.

I don't want to accidentally hammer if votes are there though so I'm still not going to stop bitching about needing a vote count

y tho

[Merry and Pippin]

has anyone reviewed icon's meta specifically his scum play & still thinks he's town?

i played one game with him before (open 710); it was multiball and we were both town and he was my strongest townread at endgame

that is to say i wasn't *super strongly* townreading him but he was townier than everyone else + i knew he wasn't bluescum (and at that point there were only bluescum left) so he had to be town by poe

one of the reasons i townread him is cuz as far as i'm aware he doens't have a particularly expansive scumrange and he had enough townie moments there that i didn't think he'd be able to fake those

i've not actually done an extensive meta dive on his scumgames but i don't think he's played much in the interim so i think the vibe i had of his scumrange is probably (?) fairly accurate

he's not yet hit the threshold of enough townie posts that i think he's out of his scumrange but he did have a few posts that i thought were townie for his type of player (the analysis in the first bit 210 in particular)

[Merry and Pippin]

UNVOTE:

-Slaxx

I’ll catch up with this tonight.

slaxx were you aware that you had unvoted off of l-1 here?

[Merry and Pippin]

i kinda like gemini actually

[Merry and Pippin]

I'm just going to go and claim VT here.
Just do the lynch if you don't believe it since it's no loss to town.

Its obvious that trying to have fun during games is just something that can't be done weather I try to Scum hunt or not.

[Merry and Pippin]

yay i'm caught up!

[Jungle Medicine]

so let's talk about icon. when you played with him did you look at his meta at all & how were you distinguishing his town from scum game?

[Merry and Pippin]

@Schadd_ what does invisible mean in the context of the britney spears check

[schadd_]

if the person with the bus driver uses the britney spears check on themself i will provide a result as though they didn't have that ability

[Jungle Medicine]

i'll get into a bit about why i voted icon. for starters the overuse of unnecessary qualifiers:

i'm

actually

like semi-serious about roster here

Jungle's a tough read for me here. I was

really

feeling scummy vibes from that slot, but he handled Draco's pressure

really

well.

i briefly checked icon's meta for this & he tends to overuse these types of qualifiers as scum more than town.

second his read & push on me as seen in 205, 206, & continued in 296. i think townies likely drop this three-obvtown line of inquiry before either of these posts. why is icon tunneling this inquiry when there's so much other posting to sort me? and either way i don't think town call me a "tough read" while saying i'm scum with roster, which brings me to my next point on icon.

his push on roster is even worse than the push on me:

yeah you’re right.

VOTE: Jungle

We could also just lynch scum

VOTE: rosterfoster

he votes roster because roster voted me, his other scumread? this doesn't make much sense on its face so let's dig deeper:

On the Phone so i'll make it brief:

Roster opens with RVS vote on me, later tries to get credit for 'leading the wagon' on me, only to be called out by Draco that it's prolly a bad idea to be on a wagon containing Jungle which indicates Roster should be scumreading Jungle. After this callout Roster switches votes to Jungle (being directed there by Draco instead of coming to that Obvious conclusion himself).

It gives me a feeling that Draco's got a scumteam of Jungle and Roster by the ballz (including Draco's push on Jungle re the 3 conf town he mentioned)

As it stands right now, lynching in Jungle or Roster

he summarizes roster's actions without offering any analysis as to why it's scummy other than icon's "feeling" that draco's caught me & roster "by the ballz." i don't think an uninformed townie trying to sort between me, roster, & draco comes to the conclusions icon comes to. why is icon assuming that draco's town in this exchange? and you'd think a townie who scumreads me wouldn't immediately vote someone else for voting me without pausing a bit to engage the player?

the roster push feels fake & it's especially telling that icon questions me further but while pushing roster without further questioning. it looks like icon's pushing lynchbait in roster because it's easy not because icon wants to sort roster & meanwhile he's hesitantly scumreading me while feeling out whether i'm lynchable before pushing.

i'm a wildcard after all so while scum want me mislynched they probably don't feel comfortable pushing my lynch at this point in the game, at least given my activity levels & confidence in the game. icon fits the pattern of how i'd expect scum to play around me while at the same time pushing easy lynchbait.

[Iconeum]

Gemini, Vedith, Draco townreads

why vedith

i briefly checked Jungle's meta & he tends to make up meta-reads as scum

[Iconeum]

vedith because there's literally nothing scummy in the posts, both content and intent wise.

[Iconeum]

Jungle also trying to discredit my townread in Draco. Most of his post on me is based on assumptions about my playstyle and meta while ignoring the actual content on Roster.