Mini 2065 - Access Point [Endgame]

[Ankamius]

Would you be disappointed if I shower first

I might miss being able to if I do catch up stuff immediately

[Alisae]

Would you be disappointed if I shower first

I might miss being able to if I do catch up stuff immediately

reading d2 takes 3minutes, 1 if your quick. Its that short.
but no, I want you to work on your own time.

[Alisae]

Either way, I will still be here.
I'll probably crash when you head off to work since I doubt I'll have anyone to talk to unless insomnia wants to open up to me for a bit.

[Ankamius]

That will be an hour and a half

Okay I'll be back soon

[Alisae]

With you turning my plan down and thinking every person who town read me is scum, your chance of sending scum in the AP get higher and higher.

Why are you jumping to a conclusion here?
Like, while that seems fairly defensive, I haven't formed a conclusion on the slot at all.
I just want to understand what the slot is thinking, which is why I asked them for their thoughts.
I want him to give me something to help me read him.

pedit: I'll stick around

[Ankamius]

Btw I haven't played with most of the plist

So general reads into personalities might help

[Alisae]

Btw I haven't played with most of the plist

So general reads into personalities might help

Neither have I. D1 should give that much though.
I kinda just skimmed, found a read or two, and then plan on sorting the rest via real time interaction.

[Ankamius]

Okay I've read enough to be able to comment on this.

RC, to be scum, would be walking a very interesting tightrope this game.

1. He very likely sent obvtown NSG to the access point, who, as he has said, has a reputation for being a strong town player (I personally have not played with her before, but I can trust it to be true). She also has a reputation for having a beyond terrible scum game, as evidenced by the fact that I replaced scumher in a game last year and was read as locktown solely because she had even bothered to post at all.
2. This means that for RC to be scum this game, he HAS to try to win by sending 2 scum to the access point if he is not specifically trying to be pushed in there himself. This is doable for him and if he IS scum this game, this would easily explain why he would put NSG in the access point first. I could easily see him seeing her as the only threat to him in this playerlist.
3.

this means you should be trying to read RC by the players he is pushing into the AP rather than the player himself.

I would like everybody's read on ruirui specifically and why when everybody next posts. I am pretty sure RC is just town this game, but I will also make damn sure to check his work to make sure that this play works.

[Alisae]

Ank, do you want my interpretation on RuiRui?

[Ankamius]

And Alisae idk, I've never played with insomnia before

I know labrat strongly believed that the read was accurate, but I don't know her well enough to know how trustworthy that read is

And that push was... well, never going to be well received in the first place. It was the wrong time to do it

[Ankamius]

Yes please, Ali

[Alisae]

I mean
I am RC slot
so idunno if my word means much
but if you want it, I'll offer it.

pedit: hmmmmm

[Alisae]

I really see the outburst as villagery in every way.

Its loud, and the posts and her mindset is centered around thinking she's important.
And I just, don't scum scum freaking out like that, I really don't.
It doesn't make sense to me. If we were talking about someone who has a reputation for that shit, then I don't think this would be as alignment indicative, but I get the feeling that she needed to have insomnia AP'd just to be sane.

So I think you're town. I was hoping you would share more confidence in her read since you yourself know that you're town, but I won't blame you for not knowing if its trustworthy or not.

I'll explain my take on RC pushing for RuiRui next.

[Ankamius]

I've done the extremely loud pushing thing on incorrect reads enough to know its not the best indicator of accuracy :S

[Alisae]

Having read some stuff and NSG's townread, I think it makes sense for RC to push for RuiRui. I msotly think that RC is just sheeping NSG's reads, and since RC respects NSG, there's no reason for him to not do that.
Ontop of that being a read that they both agreed on, they're going to want to get that AP'd.

Thats my interpretation on RC and RuiRui.

As for RuiRui herself, I don't like the fact she was being attacked for supporting RC in getting NSG nominated.

[Alisae]

I've done the extremely loud pushing thing on incorrect reads enough to know its not the best indicator of accuracy :S

its not about accuracy
its about knowing that your slot is town and trusting that your predecessor knows what they're talking about and going with it?

Sorry if I'm having issues explaining it.

[Ankamius]

I understand what you mean Ali, I'm just too careful for that.

My role in games is to be a town lead or support based on the level of play active in the game, with town leading being the focus in weaker lobbies and supporting being the focus in stronger lobbies.

This is definitely a game where I'm much better for checking people's work rather than trying to solve the game myself. So my predecessor's read and read strength is going to factor in how I read the game, but I'm not going to sheep it just because she thought it was strong

[Alisae]

Anyhow I'll start playing my hand now.

I think Locke is likely town.
102 I agreed with RuiRui while I was reading along, at that point, I did kind of fell like she was kinda scummy.

I also like this line a lot

If RC is town that would kinda be playing nonoptimally not putting himself forward since he knows for def he's town

I think this is likely a mindset that town is going to think and is going to post, especially if they're newer to the game due to how simplistic the mindset is.
And not to mention, I don't see scum!Locke writing this post because of this mindset tbh?
Like its very simplistic and basic and not really thinking of any potential bigger picture.
Its something you would see newer town post.

pedit: I definitely didn't expect you to sheep it right away, but rather to just trust it a bit and believe she had that read and believe in that read as strongly as she did?
But also insomnia is scummy and if they're actually not scum, I want you to talk me out of it.

[Alisae]

This is where I'm at. everything between insomnia and the group with you in it being those who I need real time interaction with.

{Ali, GL, Gold}
{Ank, RuiRui, Locke}
{DT, RCE, Rooster}
{BRVR}
{insomnia}

[insomnia]

With you turning my plan down and thinking every person who town read me is scum, your chance of sending scum in the AP get higher and higher.

Why are you jumping to a conclusion here?
Like, while that seems fairly defensive, I haven't formed a conclusion on the slot at all.
I just want to understand what the slot is thinking, which is why I asked them for their thoughts.
I want him to give me something to help me read him.

pedit: I'll stick around

I’m not a fan of providing useless thesis, if you can’t read me from my posts, giving a list of names with my opinion on them won’t make me look any better.

Or at least shouldn’t.

My mechanical game play and me coming up with that plan should be the basis of your read on me, not a list of names.

[insomnia]

I don’t plan on being town read at all, I don’t want to get APd.

So don’t try to sort me.

[insomnia]

Just push your town read that didn’t post ever since people with their thesis say “Rui is town”

That’s page 22 btw. I wouldn’t rush sending her into AP if I were you.

[Ankamius]

I'll get back to this when I have time to, Ali

You have permission from me to go to bed early

[Ankamius]

I think I need to be caught up on all the mechanics talk to have much more to add and that will take too long for me to say anything before having to leave

[Alisae]

My mechanical game play and me coming up with that plan should be the basis of your read on me, not a list of names.

So I want to do the opposite.
If you're scum, you said so yourself, you will look good on that front.

I want to base my read on your dayplay and stances, and try to figure out what you are accomplishing with your reads.
It's not 100% mechanics, its play too.

You're saying that your dayplay is weak?
Then let me try to read that and if you are town, it'll definitely show!~