Greatest Idea VIII - Game Over

[TTTT]

VOTE: Trekkie

there could be 3rd party who target goo if this lives
or solo member of scum faction

[Irrelephant11]

idk that pintu is likely to die

what if scum agree with your theory and try to shoot possible cultists

or just, dont try to crosskill in general and go for the tracker or the cop so that they arent caught

Here’s the other thing fmpov: you claimed last
You could very easily be cult at this point, cc’ing based on your true original cards
If that’s the case I make this game more winnable for town by making sure cult numbers go down and the recruiter dies
I lose this game for town by letting the cult have another night to recruit
Oh but your point that scum might shoot cultists is interesting
This is ridiculous, am I the only town left

[pinturicchio]

"pint claimed my alignment card". How can everyone fall for that?

Can’t believe I didn’t notice this scummy word choice

Pintu who do you want lynched today, post-claims?

Trekkie, absolutely. Let the scumteams decide if it's Wisdom or me, or lynch on of us tomorrow in case we both survive which is unlikely, but Wisdom's push on me and rethorics are worrying, really worrying on how the gamestate could be for town. If Wisdom is a cultist who somehow realized how many cultist there are alive right now ('cause it's Day 3 and there's no Cult flips so you can get an estimate of how many of there are alive), we have to get rid of them as fast as possible.

[pinturicchio]

VOTE: Trekkie

[Irrelephant11]

are you referring to pint's word choice or mine

I was being sarcastic about “pint claimed my alignment card” somehow being a scummy word choice

[Wisdom]

('cause it's Day 3 and there's no Cult flips so you can get an estimate of how many of there are alive)

i lold a little at this empty argument

[Wisdom]

are you referring to pint's word choice or mine

I was being sarcastic about “pint claimed my alignment card” somehow being a scummy word choice

ok thats what i thought

[Vedith]

VOTE: Trekkie

\o/

[pinturicchio]

are you referring to pint's word choice or mine

I was being sarcastic about “pint claimed my alignment card” somehow being a scummy word choice

??????? Why the fuck people love putting words in my mouth????? I didn't say it was scummy, I said he's using a subtle rethoric way of convincing people that I'm the one who's lying, and clearly people is falling for it 'cause somehow everyone agrees Wisdom is telling the truth

[pinturicchio]

('cause it's Day 3 and there's no Cult flips so you can get an estimate of how many of there are alive)

i lold a little at this empty argument

Explain?

[Micc]

@Mod If a groupscum is culted do they lose access to scumchat?

Yes, they would loose all factional abilities.

Votecount 3.08

pinturicchio (3) -

Wisdom, Shadowlesscloud, Trekkie99

Trekkie99 (3) -

TTTT pinturicchio, Vedith

TTTT (1) -

davesaz

davesaz (1) -

NotMySpamAccount

insomnia (1) -

Irrelephant11

Not Voting (3) -

ofrhz, DoubtingThomas, insomnia

With 12 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2019-04-08 11:30:00).

[Wisdom]

i understand me being against the cultist lynch is maybe worrying for me being a cultist but i really dont see the danger of the cult

scum havent targeted trekkie with their kill or he would be dead, so they have to have targeted him with another ability

there are three town targeting roles, and even if all of them have targeted him and are now cultists, that would mean nobody else town can target them

scum are divided in many different factions and they dont know what the other scum will do so it does not look likely to me that they will try to be culted. if they even can do that without killing trekkie.

so in general i dont see much reason to worry about this

[Irrelephant11]

Based on how the claims went down and the fact you cc’d and pintu’s play since, I feel pretty confident Pintu flips scum here
But I don’t think it makes sense to lynch him here?
Groupscum won’t shoot Trekkie; groupscum might shoot Pintu
3rd party probably won’t shoot Trekkie; 3rd party would likely want to shoot Pintu

I’m gonna wait for the mod to answer my question about groupscum > cultist rules before voting here I think
Pedit: interestingggg

Pedit2: But my point is that “town can’t target” might be a function of fake claims from cultists rather than true claims from town

[TTTT]

@Mod If a groupscum is culted do they lose access to scumchat?

Yes, they would loose all factional abilities.

@MOD would they also lose all non-factional abilities?

[Micc]

@MOD would they also lose all non-factional abilities?

No, they would keep any non-factional abilities.

[pinturicchio]

i understand me being against the cultist lynch is maybe worrying for me being a cultist but i really dont see the danger of the cult

scum havent targeted trekkie with their kill or he would be dead, so they have to have targeted him with another ability

there are three town targeting roles, and even if all of them have targeted him and are now cultists, that would mean nobody else town can target them

scum are divided in many different factions and they dont know what the other scum will do so it does not look likely to me that they will try to be culted. if they even can do that without killing trekkie.

so in general i dont see much reason to worry about this

And we know that there are scum players who probably fakeclaimed their role and there are more targeting roles that we think there are, like Wisdom, who claimed BP but he actually had a targeting role and became part of the cult and is trying to sell the idea that we shouldn't worry about the cult and kill town instead.

[TTTT]

@Irell
you forgot to move your vote

[TTTT]

@MOD would they also lose all non-factional abilities?

No, they would keep any non-factional abilities.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cultist

[Wisdom]

Pedit2: But my point is that “town can’t target” might be a function of fake claims from cultists rather than true claims from town

who are these claims?

tttt is proven dayvig so cant target at night
you duh
me
dave and nmsa, who are most likely scum
vedith with a supersaint claim, which is unlikely to come from a cultist (or any scum)
and ofrhz

only ofrhz and me could fit this

[TTTT]

@MOD would they also lose all non-factional abilities?

No, they would keep any non-factional abilities.

there's no way we leave Trekkie alive with this info

[Irrelephant11]

I was waiting for mod answers to do this but I think this still makes the most sense to me
VOTE: trekkie
I’m hoping the 1v1 will resolve itself tonight

Pedit: oh good point
Okay I need to do work (I’m at work) but I’m gonna UNVOTE: and come back to this

[Wisdom]

how does that change anything @ttt

[davesaz]

am I the only town left

No, you're not.

I'm kinda disappointed in the lack of people willing to question things. Though with site meta being to shout

shade!!!!

every time something is doubted, it's understandable.
Even with a pintu scum flip it isn't proven that Wisdom didn't yolo CC in the first place. Pretty decent odds that neither of them have that card.

[Wisdom]

why the fuck do i yolo cc

do you know me to do such things

[davesaz]

My point is that we have a full slate of claims and there is no telling how many are fake.

Making that point should conf my alignment for anyone who has seen me play more than a couple games.