Mini 2065 - Access Point [Endgame]

[GuiltyLion]

Well I could have just shot DDL because he townread me so. That's kinda surface.

you could have but you wouldn't when there are way more important targets to kill

DDL wasn't like a consensus D2 access point from where I'm sitting

Yeah but like, I don't kill RC there because I'm on the Fringe of his AP choices and without NSG he's the loudest voice of the town. Plus he isn't advocating to AP himself and probably talks people out of entertaining it day 2.

I maybe shoot Rui but that's only if I don't think I can out-town her.

DDL just makes sense, outside of that there wasn't strong consideration for anyone else.

why are you arguing with conftown about reasons to think that you are town

[RCEnigma]

I just wanna be shot man.

[Ankamius]

It seems like I’m always not getting the nks.

Why was DDL shot instead of Rui?

What did he do to get nked?

Did he town read someone? Rui was being town read by a lot more people.

I sometimes don’t get the nks in this game

:V

[Alisae]

It seems like I’m always not getting the nks.

I can see a world where you get shot if ur town

[insomnia]

I think I found my newbie
I am going to raise you proud and loud boy

Oh yes let’s make a hydra

[insomnia]

It seems like I’m always not getting the nks.

I can see a world where you get shot if ur town

I’m just honest

I don’t get the NKs

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: Ankamius

I feel this is the better vote than Alisae

no offense Alisae

[Alisae]

man you gotta have more faith in your play
but, you'll get there eventually

[Ankamius]

can you go into that more GL?

also TGP does not support that AP

[Alisae]

VOTE: Ankamius

I feel this is the better vote than Alisae

no offense Alisae

nah If I'm the de facto AP day 3 then you AP me now.

[insomnia]

TGP also advocates rui getting APd

[GuiltyLion]

it basically comes down to this

Alisae is town here like 80% of the time, but I think you are town here like 95% of the time

if Alisae gets access pointed today it's not the worst thing in the world but I'm kinda curious who Alisae thinks we should access point aside from themselves? I haven't gotten to Alisae rep in on my reread yet.

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: Ankamius

I feel this is the better vote than Alisae

no offense Alisae

nah If I'm the de facto AP day 3 then you AP me now.

no? I want to AP my strongest townread

[GuiltyLion]

like, there's no universe where we lose to a scum!NSG or scum!Ank here

there is a universe where we lose to a scum!Alisae and I want to minimize that possibility

[Alisae]

I townread the other only viable AP options.

pedit: De Facto (as in default) AP Day 3.
Leaving me to be AP'd day 3 is very bad because scum can use that to push their AP in very easily.
I'm pretty convinced that people will be talked out of APing me Day 3.
So we're doing it now

pedit2: I'm going back to anime, I don't think I can change ur mind here :/

[GuiltyLion]

Rui doesn't seem like scum to me. I wouldn't send them to AP today, but I would send them in the future if we had to.
People who I think we can safely send on AP today or tomorrow:
NSG
RC
RCE
I'm not sure about the entire meta gaming thing that's happening about RC. Wouldn't it be in somebody's best interest to act the same way for each and every game no matter what? It just gives you away in games if you are extremely talkative and helpful as mafia, but only have about one post every few days as town. If you keep acting the same way in each and every game you're in people aren't gonna be able to out you as scum or town day one from how active you are. A problem with acting the same way each game is that some people like Rui or Insomnia (Sorry didn't see which and I don't want to go back to read and see who it was.) will doubt what ever you say and won't trust you no matter what you do. What i'm saying is using RC's previous games as scum or town isn't really that good of a plan. I've never meta gamed or payed any attention to it so I dunno. Maybe Meta gaming is the best strategy you can do in this situation? From my experiences though Meta gaming is frowned upon in many games I've played on the forums and online games which is probably why I have this opinion of it.

one other thing I've been thinking about

everyone's saying BRVRVRVRV is obvscum. I agree

who's the scum that they're suggesting gets Access Pointed here?

[Alisae]

who's the scum that they're suggesting gets Access Pointed here?

They're voting RuiRui I think

[GuiltyLion]

pedit2: I'm going back to anime, I don't think I can change ur mind here :/

k then vote Ank

[Ankamius]

tbf the way you lose to a scum!NSG or scum!Ank here is by sending in a scum d3, assuming we go with sending me today

like yeah both our scumgames are bad but that's still something you need to keep in mind with statements like that

[Ankamius]

Rui doesn't seem like scum to me. I wouldn't send them to AP today, but I would send them in the future if we had to.
People who I think we can safely send on AP today or tomorrow:
NSG
RC
RCE
I'm not sure about the entire meta gaming thing that's happening about RC. Wouldn't it be in somebody's best interest to act the same way for each and every game no matter what? It just gives you away in games if you are extremely talkative and helpful as mafia, but only have about one post every few days as town. If you keep acting the same way in each and every game you're in people aren't gonna be able to out you as scum or town day one from how active you are. A problem with acting the same way each game is that some people like Rui or Insomnia (Sorry didn't see which and I don't want to go back to read and see who it was.) will doubt what ever you say and won't trust you no matter what you do. What i'm saying is using RC's previous games as scum or town isn't really that good of a plan. I've never meta gamed or payed any attention to it so I dunno. Maybe Meta gaming is the best strategy you can do in this situation? From my experiences though Meta gaming is frowned upon in many games I've played on the forums and online games which is probably why I have this opinion of it.

one other thing I've been thinking about

everyone's saying BRVRVRVRV is obvscum. I agree

who's the scum that they're suggesting gets Access Pointed here?

I think they're purposely being useless

[Alisae]

pedit2: I'm going back to anime, I don't think I can change ur mind here :/

k then vote Ank

no
we came up with a strategy
you can't just say no abandon that strategy

[GuiltyLion]

ftr my opinion may change when I get to that d2 Rui wagon

[Ankamius]

I currently think there is a maximum of one scum that is trying to win atm

it's actually very detrimental for scum to make a determined push of any kind on D2 when the AP has been pretty much set all day

the thing I'm worried about is that the plan scum have is to wait until D3 to push for a scum to go into the AP and hope to win the LyLo from there

[Alisae]

the thing I'm worried about is that the plan scum have is to wait until D3 to push for a scum to go into the AP and hope to win the LyLo from there

and then the scum are flipped
and then they lose

[GuiltyLion]

the other main angle I have is

I think insomnia vs RC is very like TvT. but if it were SvT, I think RC's the S.

I'm also tempted to go with DDL's suggestion of sending both Alisae and insomnia into the mission, but then we lose if Alisae is scum cause I think NSG votes insomnia in that world