Mini Normal 2060: World Architecture [Endgame]

[Persivul]

If we hit town again this lynch scum wins right?

You have almost 400 posts on this site and I’m supposed to think you don’t know how lylo works

Playing dumb about mechanics is part of his scum meta. Flavor pointed it out to me here:

viewtopic.php?p=10617429#p10617429

[Vedith]

Yeah I'm not sure how much credibility we should give to "clearing" ppl for not attempting to quick hammer. Slaax and vedith both were pretty active at the time.

Mine wasn't about quick hammering.
My was purely the fact that 20+ views were looked in the thread but 0 posts.
Any town would have more than likely posted something and I think Slaxx would have posted as either align there. I'm not clearing him at all, I just feel that scum where peeking in.
Just before we had you, Slaxx and Pers in the thread. I don't believe that only dead/outside players looked in and avoided my posting there.

Nips, why are you town here?

[Emperor flippyNips]

If we hit town again this lynch scum wins right?

You have almost 400 posts on this site and I’m supposed to think you don’t know how lylo works

Playing dumb about mechanics is part of his scum meta. Flavor pointed it out to me here:

viewtopic.php?p=10617429#p10617429

I don’t like that question. I don’t know how to answer it other than with cos I am.

[Emperor flippyNips]

No Idea why that was quoted what I said is in response to vedith

[Vedith]

Okay, why shouldn't I vote you right now?

[Emperor flippyNips]

Cos then scum wins

[Vedith]

And who's scum?

[Emperor flippyNips]

I’m trying to read thru who’s alive cos I don’t have SR or TR, I feel like everyone’s scum but nothing they’ve done has been scummy, so I’m hoping I can get some poe going once I’m done reading. Should be done by tomorrow evening at the latest

[Tchill13]

ok lets see... slaax and emp were both on jibril.

[Tchill13]

and a quick skim of the Emp iso reveals that he may have had less impact on the game than jibril if you don't count jibrils FAKE claim...

[Tchill13]

after jib flipped town I was really going to dig into FL. Which makes it a little more weird that he died because scum should have realized that they could have used me to push FL there more than likely.

[Tchill13]

vedith blamed FL for bussing worm and didn't let up. If vedith is scum and knows that I and FL are town... I dont think scum kill FL. Because Vedith I believe would try to use me to push FL here in lylo. I doubt he'd let his partner talk him into killing FL with me being so clear a [town]Jib would open the idea of a [scum]FL to me.

[Tchill13]

It’s Jibril/Vedith.

There’s a few other theories, like flips/Vedith and Slaxx/Vedith

Of course I could see lylo turning into a 1v1 between vedith and FL. Which would be HUGELY beneficial to scum in lylo if both were town.

maybe scum just made the easiest kill. Didn't worry about who they'd present as the scum team and instead prioritized eliminating threats to scum. Thats the case for [scum]vedith.

[Tchill13]

Why aren't you OK with lynching jibril here? You said vedith/Jibril right?

Ring her up, I’ll hammer.

I’m not sold on that idea, but Jibril distancing from Vedith is meh.

It’s Vedith/Jib or Vedith/Flips at this point. Off chance of Persivul, but I just don’t see Persivul’s scum agrnda

pretty interesting that vedith seems to have pushed flips the hardest this day phase so far.

[Tchill13]

Vedith why do you TR me?

[Tchill13]

{}

{Jibril, Persivul}

{Tchill13}

{Flavor Leaf}

{Sad Sheep}

{Slaxx}

{Emperor flippyNips}

{Vedith}

<(")

pretty interesting that 3 of the last 5 players are at the bottom of PP's read list. just saying. (NOTICE FLIPS AND VEDITH AT THE BOTTOM LOL)

[Tchill13]

FL and PP are the only 2 night kills that were not made specifically because of a PR claim and because of that I think we will get the most from THOSE night kills.

both heavily scum read Flips and Vedith.

[Tchill13]

I’m VT

Vedith go next

Just remember if Jibril flips Scum here then FL is Scum 100%

No way jibril plays the way he did if scum with FL. Sorry.

Why do you say that? You think FL would be coaching more?

I’ve never seen flavor as scum on this site &when I catch him irl I’m usually unsure & don’t trust him & think it’s better to get rid of him sooner than later so he doesn’t spread his lies for to long. One reason I’m scared of voting him is cos I’ve misslynched him Almost as many times as I’ve caught him.


I’m like 72% positive FL is scum, but I’d like to hear some more from tchill about why he thinks flavor and jibril can’t be the team?

I also get quick lynched Day 1 in face to face mafia because I generally play all open/semi open setups so we don’t have to have a mod, so whoever dies Day 1 mods. I’m generally the main one who can handle it when we play with a bunch of newbies.

I mean that’s not the reason you die tho. You die cos youre scummy & I normally led the wagon. We haven’t played face to face Mafia in a while and when we did it always got interrupted so it never got to far into the game.

I have a feeling that Fl was killed to point fingers at vedith. Although I’m getting off vibes from vedith, & I’m not sure if that’s cos I just don’t know how to read him or he’s scum

this is just a few posts that imo connect emp to vedith here.

[Tchill13]

@ved jib meant he jailkept me last night

Then you're not the lynch today on that alone.
Doesn't clear you but there was a night kill and the wagon on you is hard.

I'm thinking to lynch FL or Slaxx depending on what they add to their vote reason.

atm

{Vedith, Slaxx, Flippy}

but, I'm curious to how Flippy continues so that could change and be replaced by someone else who I'm not saying right now.

Hey!
Stop thinking I'm Scum Mr PP

So I only have Pers and Sad Sheep as town right now.
I want people to case themselves to why I should think they are town.

FL excluded because I'm thinking on my own here.

I just want you to do something that shows me you're town and your reads so far aren't helping.

Well I'm not changing my reads to suit your read on me.
You know what, you can go with Slaxx and FL for now.

I think Vedith is scum

There's a juicy wagon on me already.
Or are you just throwing shade in my direction without putting a vote down?
Not something I expect from town you.

Nips and FL as Scum?
PP as the back up.

What a terrible leading wagon.

VOTE: Emporer flippynips
More on nips or I'll shit post.

I can go for a Chilly lynch over Sad Sheep then.

VOTE: Chilly

Pers

Slaxx

SS

Jibril

PP

FL

Chilly

Nips

Nips Scum makes FL Scum
Chilly Scum makes SS Scum

Game is sorted within the next 3 lynches.

im about halfway through the ISO but a lot is jumping out at me. mostly Vedith voting emps, 80 posts later voting me but having Emp below me in his reads list. Then he even mentions a FL emp scum team. Which is kind of odd imo.

[Slaxx]

Well if TChill is scum I’m okay with a loss.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Jibril

Flips/Slaxx/Vedith/Chill

Entire scum team is on that list.

Flips/Slaxx/FL/Chill

Entire scum team is on that list.

One of Tchill/Slaxx are scum, the other is Vedith or Flips.

One of Tchill/Slaxx are scum, the other is FL or Flips

Just remember if Jibril flips Scum here then FL is Scum 100%

No way jibril plays the way he did if scum with FL. Sorry.

I'm right.
On the other hand, Jibril town FL is sheeped

since you TR me and are obviously sheeping FL. At what point where you going to push Slaxx as Emp's partner?

[Tchill13]

Am I Scum on a Jibril Scum flip, FL?

Yes, if I was wrong on Jibril, you are the most likely Jib partner.

I don’t feel I’m wrong

And if town I'm Scum.

Yeah I'm confident that Jibril flips Scum and FL is Scum.

I did it guys \o/

Flips doesn't seem much different from 2057 where he was town.

But thanks for positioning yourself in a manner that makes it so you aren’t going to want to kill me.

Scum me would kill you though. You know this.

Alright. When yall finally stop running in circles and agree to lynch jib I'll be here.

FL is town cleared on a scum jib flip. I'll fight anyone tooth and nail on that.

You're funny!

How do you disagree?

Jibril Scum means FL Scum 100%
I already said this.

So you just completely disagree with my explanation of jibril scum equals town FL? What part do you disagree with and why?

The part where FL is town on a Jibril Scum because FL is Scum on a Jibril scum

They can't get me in you because jibril will flip scum. Essentially town clearing you.

FL is just trying to manipulate anyway.
I already said I want Jibril lynched and voting there.

I also said that FL is town on a Jibril town flip.

Don't let Scum FL take you away from the Jibril lynch \o/

Can we agree that there's Scum 100% in me and you FL and that if one flips town the other self votes and is the lynch of that day?

VOTE: Vedith

Get me out of this game.
FL if you're town here I won't be playing with you ever again.

FL was killed because Vedith tied himself to (Jib town equals FL town) I'd imagine the decision was made to make FL the night kill once he started pushing that. Emp and Vedith as scum then Vedith is calling the shots imo. Vedith follows FL's reads. Makes the case on his scum buddy early in lylo (demanded ppl to town spew opening post, essentially demanding controll of the thread immediately) then I'd imagine since he stated I was his only TR he would have worked his way to making a Scum push on Slaxx (since FL stated one of tchill/slaax is scum). Obviously he'd bank on Slaax being the lynch to win. My only REAL reason to believe in this part specifically is due to his tone switch up on me. He declared me town with little to no reason opening this day phase.

I mentioned earlier that an FL kill could mean scum killed the most resistance. The PP kill lines up with that line of thinking also.

[Tchill13]

it makes sense to push so hard for Jib there if you believe as scum that Jib is jail keeper. It lets you freely have the NK. Vedith could have seen it as such an important event that he decided it was worth tying FL to Jibs alignment to get Jib lynched. Yes he ultimately voted FL. Flips voted Jib though. If you look at the quotes vedith looks a lot more interested on Jib being the lynch.

also "i'll never play with you again if you're town" is SUCH an easy statement to make as scum.

[Tchill13]

im pretty sure any other scum team kills pers there. because pers is virtually conf town due to setup spec imo. Of course a Vedith led scum team can't afford to leave FL alive after the way he went about lynching Jib because that would almost absolutely lead to Fl leading a lynch on Vedith.

Fl literally said Vedith/jib then vedith/slaax then vedith/emp at one point. You HAVE to kill fl there opposed to a setup spec cleared townie.

[Vedith]

Vedith why do you TR me?

You're positions and posts about the lynches.
Your defence on FL and Jibril not being Scum together.