Mini Normal 2067: Musicals [Endgame]

[Flavor Leaf]

You know what? We have 12 players this game, the setup probably has something cool going on here. I'm intrigued with this setup.

Let's no lynch. I've been semi wanting to figure out alternative early game strategies. This seems like a perfect game to try it. All of our PR's can basically get a free night because we won't have any other claims outed.

VOTE: No Lynch


I'm serious.

[Flavor Leaf]

Or we could Tradeour horror stories of failed town gambits. I have loads.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Vork

I'm pretty sure that FL is talking bollocks here regardless of align.
No matter what lynch FL day 3, or if FL doesn't lynch Vork.

But we are not no lynching.

[Flavor Leaf]

Vork’s town.

[HitAlt]

I'd rather vote Vorkuta than no-lynch.

VOTE: Vorkuta

[HitAlt]

I'd rather vote Vorkuta than no-lynch.

VOTE: Vorkuta

Still no need to panic!

[HitAlt]

We might actually get a lynch through!

[HitAlt]

Vork’s town.

Honestly though - is he?
And if he is, please feel free to point me to a reasonable D1 lynch.

[HitAlt]

I'm just here thinking whether FL actually should be the D1 lynch here.
I've seen games where he bullshits his way into D3/D4 (as scum), partly under the promise of "you can just lynch me then".
Meanwhile he kills/lynches all the so called "power-Townies" who actually could get him lynched and would keep their heads.
Meaning that he ends with a bunch of unconfident, incohesive players who he then manipulates further to get the lynches required for the win.

[HitAlt]

I'm considering just outing my ideas about the cologne-thing.
I don't think it would hurt town too much if I'm correct, and if I'm wrong, then it really affects how I'm reading FL this game.

[Vedith]

Until proven we write FL off as most likely Scum that dies day 3.
Do not let anything he says influence your opinions here and vote players by individual Scum reading.

That's the best way.

[HitAlt]

I can handle that.
But I've seen too many games where I am the only one shouting for his lynch D3 when it's time to cut the crap and gather the rope.
It's basically everyone outside of you/Slaxx/S_S that might be swayed with the right kind of BS.
And Boon is one of the best bullshitters I know. (that's a compliment btw)

[Vedith]

Yup no one let him talk his way out of it.

[Vorkuta]

So uh... I see absolutely no takers willing to discuss my Fus push.

Either of you want to comment on the votes?
So Vedith is probably upset I keep calling him a troll, and I still think that. He's been a tiny bit more involved recently but still.

No matter what lynch FL day 3, or if FL doesn't lynch Vork.

What even is this condition/ultimatum? Spoken like scum who knows both FL and Vork are town and is prepping for a guaranteed lynch on one/both of us.
Then again coming from the last game that statement is slightly justified, but I don't like it.

HitAlt feels like he has been giving me subtle scum points throughout the game, but I don't think he's every justified them.
The only time he's acknowledged my existence was to spit on my buddying/FL's friendship, and that seems done just to deny a potential core!town pairing.

[RCEnigma]

He's claimed day 3 IC. He doesn't make it past that ever. I still intend actually read FL tomorrow and if I think he's scum then full speed ahead.

[RCEnigma]

It doesn't change the gamestate if there are 3. 5v3 vs 4v3 on day 3. 2 scum no Lynch day 1 is an extra lynch I believe? Day 5 mylo vs day 4 mylo. I'm bad though so it may be wrong. I don't like the tmi feel around the play you're setting up.

[Vorkuta]

My 2 cents

the only way I would see a 2 scum setup working (unless someone can throw me a link to one) is with third party roles.

So let's not get too hasty with Mylo/Lylo calculations please.

[Something_Smart]

Third party isn't possible.

Low-powered 10:2 is possible, albeit unlikely.

[HitAlt]

Third party isn't possible.

I suck at setup spec. so maybe it's just me but..I do not understand why.
I tried to re-check the first posts and didn't see any mentions on what the setup is power division -wise.
What I did spot was that this game is proven to have a daytalk for scum.

[Vorkuta]

I think he means it's not "Normal" as defined by site rules.
He made me

Learn about the site

wiki Normal_Game#Setup where it says

In mini games (at most 13 players), there must be exactly one such group, with no third parties

So that's my bad

What I did spot was that this game is proven to have a daytalk for scum.

-The Mafia private thread will remain open throughout the game.

Is that uhh... a major finding?

[Something_Smart]

It could become relevant, i.e. if we lynch a mafia rolecop we know they were able to communicate their result before they died.

It also could matter in LYLO, because we know scum are able to coordinate a quickhammer.

[HitAlt]

Is that uhh... a major finding?

Well, now that you've worded it like that..it shouldn't be?
I haven't been playing actively for a while now, but the way I remembered it, daytalk wasn't a given.

And I think I remember at least one or two mini games with an SK in the past, but I guess my memory isn't what it once was.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Slaxx - I’m the FL from last game. Vedith’s the Vedith, hopefully you’re the Slaxx, Vorkuta is the Jibril.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm just here thinking whether FL actually should be the D1 lynch here.
I've seen games where he bullshits his way into D3/D4 (as scum), partly under the promise of "you can just lynch me then".
Meanwhile he kills/lynches all the so called "power-Townies" who actually could get him lynched and would keep their heads.
Meaning that he ends with a bunch of unconfident, incohesive players who he then manipulates further to get the lynches required for the win.

Lynching me Day 1 is effectively a policy due to just the mere paranoia of thought of me being scum.

Town me generally gets night killed right before scum thinks I’ll game solve, and if I don’t, I game solve :shrug:

[Fuscosco]

does town you have a big ego too?