Open 755: Two-Fold C9++ (GAME OVER)

Baezu · Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:32 am

VOTE: duckduckjab

Because everyone knows it’s supposed to be duck duck goose, silly!

Baezu · Post Post #43 (isolation #1) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:20 pm

In post 40, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 38, Fuscosco wrote:Like, we just caught scum and youre asking if its a pressure vote?
but I'm not scum tho

You so scum!
VOTE: chemist
That was easy, next!

Baezu · Post Post #52 (isolation #2) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:01 pm

In post 51, Rich Hedberg wrote:This is just the intro
Far from the main set
We’ll browse the weather app together!

(Yes, we can do a rain check).

Is this a bacde alt?

Baezu · Post Post #67 (isolation #3) » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:06 am

Hi all! Family day for me today but I will scrub thread tonight, answer all questions and give an updated reads list!

Baezu · Post Post #172 (isolation #4) » Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:38 pm

In post 88, Creature wrote:
In post 13, Baezu wrote:VOTE: duckduckjab

Because everyone knows it’s supposed to be duck duck goose, silly!
What's your avatar?

It’s the devil from diablo 3

Baezu · Post Post #190 (isolation #5) » Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:56 pm

In post 155, Jungle Medicine wrote:VOTE: Duck

Please explain

Baezu · Post Post #192 (isolation #6) » Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:58 pm

In post 174, Jungle Medicine wrote:By the way Skitter, something to remember about the current gamestate: You know something about me that others don't.

Please explain

Baezu · Post Post #207 (isolation #7) » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:45 pm

Chemist- all his posts just rub me the wrong way

In post 34, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 33, Jungle Medicine wrote:Vorkuta, Roster, & Rich are town.

VOTE: Chemist

This is scum because awkward vote on Chenn & ignoring everything above to prolong RVS.
It's my first post in the game, this reasoning isn't valid.

Too defensive, too early...

In post 34, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 33, Jungle Medicine wrote:Vorkuta, Roster, & Rich are town.

VOTE: Chemist

This is scum because awkward vote on Chenn & ignoring everything above to prolong RVS.
It's my first post in the game, this reasoning isn't valid.

In post 40, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 38, Fuscosco wrote:Like, we just caught scum and youre asking if its a pressure vote?
but I'm not scum tho

Not very believeable...

Chemist is pinging scummy

Creature-

In post 86, Creature wrote:
In post 11, Vorkuta wrote:Oh I really didn't expect that to work.
Hi again to Baezu, Creature, Duck, Fus, and Dunn.

Looking forward to playing with the rest of you!

VOTE: Dave for being petty
Town

What makes this town?

In post 86, Creature wrote:
In post 11, Vorkuta wrote:Oh I really didn't expect that to work.
Hi again to Baezu, Creature, Duck, Fus, and Dunn.

Looking forward to playing with the rest of you!

VOTE: Dave for being petty
Town

In post 92, Creature wrote:
In post 28, davesaz wrote:
In post 17, rosterfoster wrote:This is the SK
It's an open setup, perhaps a little complicated but easy to tell what roles are absent.
yeh, can see dave being scum

Again, why...I think creature is town but he needs to give some reasoning for his reads

Not sure why everyone is pinging Dave as scummy, maybe they know something I don’t know. For me he is a town lean, specifically for this post

In post 149, davesaz wrote:
In post 146, Jungle Medicine wrote:I'm adding Skitter & Fusco to my list of townies.
These kinda make sense.
The other ones absolutely don't.

Also, 2 balls in play. People who appear to be town may still not be.

Duck has an adorable play on words and I’ve already said is town. Please explain why you are voting Dave

In post 202, DuckDuckJab wrote:
In post 195, skitter30 wrote:
In post 193, DuckDuckJab wrote:They can't explain they got told off.
hey since you now think jungle towntold do u want to vote dave with me?
Fine but not for you, to show my partner I trust him.

VOTE: Dave

-BuJ

Dunnstral- null for now...please explain why you agree:

In post 122, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 121, skitter30 wrote:i think vorkuta is one of those people with a scummy posting style but i'm overall i'm tending town on him
I agree

Fusco’s town- moving on

Please explain the reasoning for your reads JM. You have a lot of posts but they’re all just fluff

In post 33, Jungle Medicine wrote:Vorkuta, Roster, & Rich are town.

VOTE: Chemist

This is scum because awkward vote on Chenn & ignoring everything above to prolong RVS.

Penguin- null

Persivul- love that avatar, hate your contentless posts...come play!

Mitch, er I mean Rich- love the rapping! Why do you feel Chennis is scummy?

In post 47, Rich Hedberg wrote:This playing fields my playground
Watch out for my land mines!
I’ll bring the scum down
You can call my play a landslide!

This alt is a rap bard
But you can call it Ackbar
Vote me for my schtick?
Let me flip over this trap card.

VOTE: Chenn

Honestly
Probably
That sounds like a lynch on policy
An excuse to put less truth in the knot inside my noose

Skitter is town. Can you explain your scum read on Chenn?

Skygazer- honestly this is one of the worst reasons I’ve ever heard of! So scummy. Scum scum scum

In post 63, Skygazer wrote:
In post 61, Vorkuta wrote:I'm sorry for trying to take a proactive role in progressing the game /s

What's wrong? The reads, or the reasoning?
the fact that u feel the need to point out that ur "taking" a proactive role in the game makes me feel like you want to be seen as having a proactive role, which confirms to me what I was seeing, it seems kind of forced to appear like you're contributing and this line in particular:

In post 56, Vorkuta wrote:I feel that a few more people might pile up on the wagon, but then it'll naturally diffuse and flow on to the next person.
feels like ur just saying something to make it look like you're saying something, it doesn't really add anything to the game but on the surface level looks like a contribution

Vorkuta- town as always

;tl/dr
(In no particular order)
Town - {vork, skitter, fusco, duck, creature, Dave}
Null- {Dunn, chenn, rich, roster, persivul, penguin}
Scum- {chemist, sky}

Baezu · Post Post #237 (isolation #8) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:12 am

In post 213, davesaz wrote:Eh, it might pass.

Part of my chronic problem is that certain people get townreads automatically and I’m not one of them.
I’m literally clueless about why. But asking about it seems to result in more scumreads.
It’s like my own personal windmill to joust.

Dave, I know what you mean...I’m not usually people’s first townread either (prob because of the avatar haha)
You just have to keep commenting on posts, giving your reads list and contributing to town and people will come around...don’t give up!

Baezu · Post Post #238 (isolation #9) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:13 am

In post 217, Persivul wrote:
In post 207, Baezu wrote:Persivul- love that avatar, hate your contentless posts...come play!
Pretty busy at work through 4.15.

So you’re an accountant too, eh? Well met fellow bean counter!

Baezu · Post Post #239 (isolation #10) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:16 am

In post 229, Creature wrote:
In post 207, Baezu wrote:
In post 86, Creature wrote:
In post 11, Vorkuta wrote:Oh I really didn't expect that to work.
Hi again to Baezu, Creature, Duck, Fus, and Dunn.

Looking forward to playing with the rest of you!

VOTE: Dave for being petty
Town
What makes this town?
The complexity. Vorkuta doesn't seem shy this game.

Hm interesting point

Baezu · Post Post #297 (isolation #11) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:56 pm

Sorry guys, I just got back from my dog having stitches and I’m exhausted, I’ll catch up tomorrow

Baezu · Post Post #340 (isolation #12) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:05 am

In post 307, Persivul wrote:
In post 299, Rich Hedberg wrote:Early thoughtful posting
That's the good shit that I'm down with
#77 from Vork
Lookin hella townish
Casting shade without casting a vote looks hella townish because...?

I get that this is his schtick, but I’m not sure how pro town rich is...

Baezu · Post Post #405 (isolation #13) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:10 am

In post 346, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 115, skitter30 wrote: b) chemist's hostile reaction felt scummy
I dint read it as overly hostile at all.

In post 125, davesaz wrote:Yeah that totally doesn’t feel serious.
actually i dont see the scumread on dave. Like I see the reasons, I just dont think they hold serious weight. Dave's reaction though, can be useful.

In post 161, skitter30 wrote:i want to wagon dave rn
this is an okay desire. I approve of the post.

In post 178, Jungle Medicine wrote:
In post 177, Vorkuta wrote:I don't think that an early D1 wagon on me will get through, so I'm being slightly cavalier about it.
You've been lynched on D1 before so that's an odd position to take?
I cannot think of a single player who hasnt been roped day 1. I dont see why volx's confidence needed this retort.

But,
In post 191, DuckDuckJab wrote:What is your reason for jungle being town?
This is fair. Why is duck asking for jungle?

I didnt 'like' 207 from baezu, but i did think it was towny for his style of posting.

In post 235, Chemist1422 wrote:I do want to do some ISO dives but I’m stuck on phone for now

In post 240, davesaz wrote:You voted but said nothing about why.
Actually, dude dave youre seeming kind of overagitated this game. Wanna crash on a couch and talk it out?
Im not getting a hunting vibe at all with your questions. Theyre all oddly defensive in the weakest kind of way.

In post 250, davesaz wrote:Meanwhile I see someone who needs motivation of some kind.
why vote here instead of your wagon dave?

What didn’t you like about my 207

Baezu · Post Post #406 (isolation #14) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:10 am

In post 351, skitter30 wrote:
In post 297, Baezu wrote:Sorry guys, I just got back from my dog having stitches and I’m exhausted, I’ll catch up tomorrow
i hope ur dog is ok

Thanks- it was a difficult day

Baezu · Post Post #407 (isolation #15) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:11 am

In post 361, Jungle Medicine wrote:VOTE: persivul

Why?

Baezu · Post Post #408 (isolation #16) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:13 am

In post 378, Persivul wrote:
In post 359, Vorkuta wrote:Idk, because I was on the receiving end of that just now, but my scum detector really didn't go off.
I mean I have a case for a scum!persivul, but more people need to say things before I can be sure of it.
Tentative wrong!town (with many scum points) on this.
I have a case, but I won't give it until I know there are people willing to receive it. This is scummy af.

Ok I’ll keep this in mind so that I can ask you about this later- you’re becoming one of my strongest turn reads

Baezu · Post Post #650 (isolation #17) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:18 am

In post 429, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 421, Persivul wrote:You mean the tunnel on you in which I moved my vote from you to skitter?
Oh come on.

There's no way you can compare your push on skitter to your hypertunnel on yours truly.

Vorki, I don’t like the way you’re reacting to this...

Baezu · Post Post #654 (isolation #18) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:28 am

In post 307, Persivul wrote:
In post 299, Rich Hedberg wrote:Early thoughtful posting
That's the good shit that I'm down with
#77 from Vork
Lookin hella townish
Casting shade without casting a vote looks hella townish because...?

In post 392, Persivul wrote:
In post 391, davesaz wrote:Did you actually call the highest postcount player a lurker?
Sorry, that was unclear. I meant that you've voted a lurker, when there's people with content that you could be pushing. That's something I sometimes do as scum.

In post 455, skitter30 wrote:
In post 408, Baezu wrote:
In post 378, Persivul wrote:
In post 359, Vorkuta wrote:Idk, because I was on the receiving end of that just now, but my scum detector really didn't go off.
I mean I have a case for a scum!persivul, but more people need to say things before I can be sure of it.
Tentative wrong!town (with many scum points) on this.
I have a case, but I won't give it until I know there are people willing to receive it. This is scummy af.
Ok I’ll keep this in mind so that I can ask you about this later-
you’re becoming one of my strongest turn reads
y tho

I think this is town- he wants a vote to generate conversation so he can get better reads

In post 307, Persivul wrote:
In post 299, Rich Hedberg wrote:Early thoughtful posting
That's the good shit that I'm down with
#77 from Vork
Lookin hella townish
Casting shade without casting a vote looks hella townish because...?

This seems town to me

In post 307, Persivul wrote:
In post 299, Rich Hedberg wrote:Early thoughtful posting
That's the good shit that I'm down with
#77 from Vork
Lookin hella townish
Casting shade without casting a vote looks hella townish because...?

In post 392, Persivul wrote:
In post 391, davesaz wrote:Did you actually call the highest postcount player a lurker?
Sorry, that was unclear. I meant that you've voted a lurker, when there's people with content that you could be pushing. That's something I sometimes do as scum.

Baezu · Post Post #655 (isolation #19) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:31 am

In post 459, DuckDuckJab wrote:
In post 213, davesaz wrote:Eh, it might pass.

Part of my chronic problem is that certain people get townreads automatically and I’m not one of them.
I’m literally clueless about why. But asking about it seems to result in more scumreads.
It’s like my own personal windmill to joust.
I've seen dave talk about this a couple of times in previous games fwiw; this rings true at an holistic level. Either he's picked me as someone very specific to position/pocket via AtE and then planned and carefully written some good analytical posts which are within his town range OR he's just playing in his usual towny groove OR I'm over thinking this

Probably overthinking it, but who knows?

Baezu · Post Post #659 (isolation #20) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:40 am

In post 532, DuckDuckJab wrote:I don't have a read on Penguin and I'm worried that he's so quiet.

Chemist is kinda scumposting imo but I'm better at townreading than scumreading so I want Buj's input before I go too hard there. Chenn I'm pretty null on as well.

Do you have an exciting read on any of them?

This concerns me about penguin too...he’s usually very active as town

Baezu · Post Post #661 (isolation #21) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:47 am

In post 640, Vorkuta wrote:I propose we drop the Jungle & Percy votes for now, as we have MORE than enough content to analyze in the later stages of the game, and put our votes on people at the lower half of the activity list.

VOTE: Chemist (4)

This is darn townie

Baezu · Post Post #662 (isolation #22) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:49 am

In post 653, Persivul wrote:
In post 650, Baezu wrote:Vorki, I don’t like the way you’re reacting to this...
Do you think it's more likely scummy, or just town that can't distinguish between a push and a tunnel?

Given his other posts, probably the latter

Baezu · Post Post #663 (isolation #23) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:50 am

In post 660, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 659, Baezu wrote:he’s usually very active as town

In post 656, Vorkuta wrote:PUSH LURKERS
VOTE: PenguinPower

Wait, are you satisfied with the dribble that chemist provided when he hopped on for like a nanosecond?!?!?!?!?

Baezu · Post Post #664 (isolation #24) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:51 am

That actually makes him MORE scummy imo

Baezu · Post Post #804 (isolation #25) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:54 am

In post 669, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 663, Baezu wrote:Wait, are you satisfied with the dribble that chemist provided when he hopped on for like a nanosecond?!?!?!?!?
You mean he's not coming back??!?!?!
I'm assuming the guy popped in to say 'hi, I'll read smth and get back to you', so my beetlejuicing did something.
Now-
VOTE: PenguinPower
VOTE: PenguinPower
VOTE: PenguinPower

Why?
Why?
Why?

Baezu · Post Post #805 (isolation #26) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:55 am

In post 684, Persivul wrote:
In post 681, Creature wrote:Don't you find it weird I lurked for about two days?
Three

Lmao

Baezu · Post Post #806 (isolation #27) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:56 am

In post 684, Persivul wrote:
In post 681, Creature wrote:Don't you find it weird I lurked for about two days?
Three

In post 687, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 686, Jungle Medicine wrote:What're your reads, Chemist?
I don’t have any strong reads but I’m going to do a full read through with notes once I get back on a computer

Someone should probably remind me to do this in about 2 hours just in case

Should I make your reads list for you too? :p

Baezu · Post Post #807 (isolation #28) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:58 am

In post 702, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 701, Fuscosco wrote:vork, i kind of expected more verbose posts from you
I'm handicapped by not being able to use strikethroughs in this game.

<3

Baezu · Post Post #808 (isolation #29) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:01 am

In post 702, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 701, Fuscosco wrote:vork, i kind of expected more verbose posts from you
I'm handicapped by not being able to use strikethroughs in this game.

In post 724, Vorkuta wrote:Btw, I would like full credit for all the new/recent developments on chemist.

Which other lurker needs the same treatment?

Penguin

Baezu · Post Post #809 (isolation #30) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:04 am

In post 761, DuckDuckJab wrote:Chemist is a great lynch but not a great wagon

- tw

What do you mean?

Baezu · Post Post #810 (isolation #31) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:10 am

In post 809, Baezu wrote:
In post 761, DuckDuckJab wrote:Chemist is a great lynch but not a great wagon

- tw
What do you mean?

Nvm you answered this already

Baezu · Post Post #903 (isolation #32) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:49 am

In post 838, Vorkuta wrote:Let's compare Dunn's post history/frequency BEFORE pressure votes vs Dunn's post history AFTER pressure votes.

Coincidence? I think not.

What are you implying vork?

Baezu · Post Post #904 (isolation #33) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:51 am

In post 854, Fuscosco wrote:there is only so much abuse ill take from some millenial sassmouth.

Lmao

Sorry but I thought this was funny af

Baezu · Post Post #906 (isolation #34) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:56 am

In post 899, Persivul wrote:
In post 238, Baezu wrote:
In post 217, Persivul wrote:
In post 207, Baezu wrote:Persivul- love that avatar, hate your contentless posts...come play!
Pretty busy at work through 4.15.
So you’re an accountant too, eh? Well met fellow bean counter!
Getting close...

Yup, I’m gonna need some good whiskey Monday night! Lol

Baezu · Post Post #907 (isolation #35) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:57 am

In post 905, Jungle Medicine wrote:More votes on Persi please!

No

Baezu · Post Post #912 (isolation #36) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:28 am

Happy birthday Penguin!

Baezu · Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:21 am

In post 1019, Persivul wrote:
In post 975, Creature wrote:Chemist and Fuscosco are scum so far

In post 995, skitter30 wrote:
In post 924, Shoshin wrote:Chenn, please unvote Chemist if anyone puts him at L-1. I don't want Chemist lynched & I'm going to make a post about this soon.
i want chemist lynched. i will vote fuscasco (sp?) too
This makes me happy. I had said earlier that creature needed to post, and I've been waiting for him to give some reads before interacting with him. Creature and Skitter both have better D1 reads than me. My reasoning was that, if they agreed on their reads, then:
- the two of them are more likely to be town. If they disagreed wildly I would have thought one of them likely to be scum.
- the people they scum read are pretty good lynches.

I’m actually tending to agree with this

Baezu · Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:47 am

Guys, I’m semi v/la today but planning on catching up tomorrow

Baezu · Post Post #1297 (isolation #39) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:42 am

Hi all! It’s been a rough few days for me...will try to catch up as soon as possible

Baezu · Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:59 am

I need to catch up on this game. Gimme a day please

Baezu · Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:11 am

In post 1321, DuckDuckJab wrote:Chemist lynch is good regardless of if we find more scum tho

Agreed

Baezu · Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:13 am

In post 1347, Creature wrote:How's the mislynch going?

Where should we be voting in your opinion?

Baezu · Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:15 am

In post 1365, Fuscosco wrote:Do you think the increasing suspicion on rooster has caused him to come and post more? Like maybe he is actively lurking instead of just not here?

maybe the pressure is exactly what this game needs when its stalled out...

Oh no, you rolledscum this game? But I like you so much!

Baezu · Post Post #1449 (isolation #44) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:51 pm

Sheep the duck!

Baezu · Post Post #1477 (isolation #45) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:20 pm

VOTE: penguin

Baezu · Post Post #1595 (isolation #46) » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:17 am

In post 1529, Persivul wrote:
In post 1362, Irrelephant11 wrote:I have respect for his scumgame, which makes him hard to read, too.
What do you respect about my scum game?

Hey Persi!

How’s post Monday treating you?

Baezu · Post Post #1596 (isolation #47) » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:23 am

In post 1591, rosterfoster wrote:So I'd want to lynch in Irr/Skitter/Dave/Sky/Bauzu/Dunn/Furrosco

Scum are likelier to be in middle IMO so I'd exclude Irr and Furrosco (also his vote was less blending in I thought).

I thought Sky and DAve were town so I'm down for Baezu/Dunn today. With reminder than Chenn is also scum.

Why are you down for Dunn and I but not chenn today?

Baezu · Post Post #1605 (isolation #48) » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:56 am

In post 1603, Creature wrote:VOTE: rosterfoster

Please Explain

Baezu · Post Post #1616 (isolation #49) » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:35 pm

Yup chemist is where it’s at

Baezu · Post Post #1617 (isolation #50) » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:35 pm

VOTE: chemist

Baezu · Post Post #1650 (isolation #51) » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:58 am

In post 1641, Fuscosco wrote:two votes are from the 1200s, and one is from bae voting the newest fad like a slinky snake trying to blend in.

Yay fad!!! \o/

Baezu · Post Post #1651 (isolation #52) » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:59 am

In post 1641, Fuscosco wrote:two votes are from the 1200s, and one is from bae voting the newest fad like a slinky snake trying to blend in.

In post 1642, Fuscosco wrote:Can all these baby vanity wagon voters condense into a rope so we can end the day, and the night, by the end of Easter Weekend?

Why do we want to do this? We have plenty of time left in the day

Baezu · Post Post #1660 (isolation #53) » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:08 pm

In post 1652, Fuscosco wrote:that reminds me to pick a game to hydra in wu

I think we signed up for port arthur

Baezu · Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:39 pm

Baezu · Post Post #1788 (isolation #55) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:12 am

VOTE: roster

I was already FoSing him and if there’s a guilty then it’s pretty much a no brainer

Baezu · Post Post #1798 (isolation #56) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:18 pm

In post 1788, Baezu wrote:VOTE: roster

I was already FoSing him and if there’s a guilty then it’s pretty much a no brainer

Couldn’t read yet to respond- been at a theme park all day with the kids...catch up as soon as I can

Baezu · Post Post #1887 (isolation #57) » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:18 am

In post 1856, Persivul wrote:
In post 1853, Vorkuta wrote:Also trying to reread Shoshin's ISO to see if she crumbed her night target(s), except I'm bad at picking anything up.
Kindly help/advise?
I don't know about crumbs, but there's a pretty good chance it was me.

Did you have an action that was blocked?

Baezu · Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:31 pm

In post 1894, DuckDuckJab wrote:Relly I've never seen you this ridiculously stubborn

What do you think it means?

Baezu · Post Post #1963 (isolation #59) » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:29 pm

VOTE: dunn

Baezu · Post Post #2001 (isolation #60) » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:06 am

Gotta catch up on this today

Baezu · Post Post #2053 (isolation #61) » Wed May 01, 2019 6:59 am

In post 2033, davesaz wrote:Still here, still need to do that research from early game.
Looks like I get to dust off some old meta. Game might have gotten 10-20% easier to solve, if A50 and Titus post enough.

Looking forward to this!

My RL has been incredibly difficult lately...ima try not to replace out but now I’m sick grrrr

When it rains it pours

Baezu · Wed May 01, 2019 10:47 am

Ahem, she plz

Baezu · Wed May 01, 2019 10:51 am

You’re doing amazing! I appreciate your engagement and your true comments. Once again I think you’re town but then again I was convinced you were town in your scum game so who knows?

Baezu · Wed May 01, 2019 10:52 am

By the way I really enjoy being on at the same time when other people are on so that I could call man as things come up but it doesn’t happen that often

Baezu · Wed May 01, 2019 10:56 am

Ya I’m a she devil

Baezu · Wed May 01, 2019 10:56 am

The raven was right about that

Baezu · Wed May 01, 2019 11:36 am

Ok, as reverend spooner and TemporalLich say, here is my much anticipated Lead Rist:

A50- this post is pretty anti-town, if you’re concerned about your win condition, you’re either scum trying to skate through or disinterested town. Either way, posts like this aren’t helpful- engage please.

In post 2044, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2032, DuckDuckJab wrote:
In post 2004, Almost50 wrote:Say, I will be back later and I really do hope I find a n answer to the question about reading D1 (Cuz I don't
want to
read that unless I
have to
)
Hey NotForever21

Read it. It'd be fun.

-BuJ
Like I said, I won't do it unless I have to, and I don't think I'm in that situation yet. (Plus, you know.. reading 60 pages only to get shot next night sucks).

Chenn- Had amazingly accurate reads relatively early in the game...is this more indicative of prophetic town or scum? I don’t know chenn’s Meta well enough to know

In post 286, chennisden wrote:My townreads for now are Chemist and Dave.

In post 290, chennisden wrote:Skitter seems like she's tryharding at the game; whether this is proficient town or tryhard scum (which I presume I'd be if I rolled scum this game), I am null on for now.

In post 1333, chennisden wrote:shoshin, help me derail this wagon quick

Also, this got dropped but I noticed it again in the read through...what kind of guilty did you have chenn, can you explain it again?

In post 1763, chennisden wrote:Roster is INDEPENDENTLY SCUMMY.

I have a GUILTY on him.

Can we get more votes on him? Please?

Creature- this post seems towny, at least he’s been stepping it up since D1

In post 1263, Creature wrote:I don't want to compromise on Chemist though.

Also don't we have 2 weeks left?

Dave I think is town, I can elaborate more on this if people want but rn I’m focusing more on my scum reads

Duck- don’t like this post, it just pings me....tw usually bleeds town when he’s town so this is worrisome to me

In post 466, DuckDuckJab wrote:ftr hard pocketing and pretending to solve the game with people is literally the card in my sleeve when I'm wolfing so I might be projecting what I saw in myself in e.g. Starcraft onto other players

if you think I'm unduly uncomfortable or being ott I'll take that. same if Buj thinks so.

Dunn- doesn’t have a lot of content but I def think this is a mislynch...is the fact that she hasn’t been hammered yet mean that everyone on her is scum? Hm

Fusc- from this post, I don’t think she can be a wolf...she could be scum but I have a lot of other people who I read as scum atm so ima table this for another day

In post 1006, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1003, skitter30 wrote:the posts that you're making when you are here are scummy
I mean i guess. do you have any specific focal points?

Irrel- town

Titus- persivul didn’t really ping me as scummy so Titus can wait for another day

Vork- obvstown

In other news, I’m not really understanding the setup with alpha wolf, etc...what info do we have atm? Do we know how many scum are left? If anyone can help enlighten me I’d appreciate it

VOTE: duck

Baezu · Post Post #2144 (isolation #68) » Wed May 01, 2019 2:19 pm

In post 2141, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 2140, Creature wrote:What?
At the start of this (C9++) game, I was also in another game where I was scum against town!Baezu (and town!Fus). That game has finished, so she's saying that even though I'm "bleeding" town this game, I also bled town last game (as scum).

Please correct me if I'm falsely putting words in your mouth @diablo-demon

No this is what I meant,

Either way, not lynching the vorkie today

Baezu · Post Post #2145 (isolation #69) » Wed May 01, 2019 2:20 pm

In post 2142, Creature wrote:
In post 2141, Vorkuta wrote:even though I'm "bleeding" town this game, I also bled town last game (as scum).
don't know how to makes you bleeding town if you actually did that as scum before.

And really? This is what you latched onto in my entire list of reads?

Anything else that jumped out at you?

Baezu · Post Post #2147 (isolation #70) » Wed May 01, 2019 2:22 pm

And where’s duckie’s response to my vote on him? He posted afterwards, and didn’t comment at all?

This actually further goes to support my suspicions...

Baezu · Post Post #2148 (isolation #71) » Wed May 01, 2019 2:24 pm

Duckie, when you’re town you make pushes, you care about the state of the game and the votes, etc, etc

Baezu · Post Post #2168 (isolation #72) » Wed May 01, 2019 4:54 pm

No he thought you’re a better lynch than persi or dunn

Baezu · Post Post #2194 (isolation #73) » Thu May 02, 2019 5:06 am

In post 2178, Creature wrote:davesaz is another scum.

Ya kinda starting to feel this too

Baezu · Post Post #2199 (isolation #74) » Thu May 02, 2019 5:11 am

In post 2196, Fuscosco wrote:Oh man, I want to flash.

What do you mean?

VOTE: dave

Baezu · Post Post #2201 (isolation #75) » Thu May 02, 2019 5:14 am

Got it

Baezu · Post Post #2221 (isolation #76) » Thu May 02, 2019 8:25 am

In post 2206, DuckDuckJab wrote:Irrel I think you're town I just disagree with you strongly.

I don't skitter would have played like she did if she were persy's partner. I just don't. It doesn't make sense to me from like a personal agenda from her pov, and it doesn't make sense to me based on how she interacted with our slot. I don't think it's an objective thing, I wouldn't know how to convince you of it.

The other thing is that would invalidate my gamestate read that lead me to townread persy. And I don't like to think of my correct reads as mere coincidence. Sky/Sho/Skitter, were at least for some period of time all townreading each other and scumreading Persivul. I believe there were others also they just didn't commit to votes. I thought for sure at least 1 scum among them had completely manipulated the townies among them. I flip flopped about who that may be, mainly due to influences from other players' reads but with the flips being what they are I'd like to think I was right.

And if skitter did all that to distance from a partner, I think it's completely underestimating her skill to think that she would scumread him and turn votes towards him, then when the hydra head that scumreads her pushes back against the persivul wagon she starts to backtrack until straight up townreading persivul after what? An emotional 1v1 between them over meta? It's far too obvious but it assumes a whole lot of preparation for the gambit at the same time, and I see that as a contradiction.

Maybe I'm wrong, though I don't think so. Maybe persy is mafia instead of wolf and I'm wasting my breath for no reason because who cares what scum team we lynch, but I really don't think he's a wolf.

Was baezu the guy who townread dunn based on his wagon slowing down? Because that's like so upside down.

I've never seen this much resistance / hesistancy towards a lynch of a slot nobody cares about not even the slot's owner.

-BuJ

Ok so maybe persi wasn’t skitters partner- maybe he wasn’t a wolf but could he still be mafia? Because this is multiball

Baezu · Post Post #2224 (isolation #77) » Thu May 02, 2019 8:30 am

I don’t think persi is scum per se, I was just commenting to duck that there are two scum teams so associations may not necessarily be the best approach

Baezu · Post Post #2366 (isolation #78) » Thu May 02, 2019 3:55 pm

In post 2238, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 2230, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 2226, Irrelephant11 wrote:Why is everyone ignoring the part of my case
I dont think anyone is ignoring your or tr:dl you at all. I think that its not our lynch today. Do you want persy over dunn/dave/fusco/bae/whoever?
I want persivul dead over dave/you/bae, yes. I could be convinced to go dave/you if someone else got real towny and made a real strong case but currently I feel like I'm one of like 3 town so I kinda want to lead the lynch on behalf of dead town, ye

Fine we vote Titus

VOTE: titus

Baezu · Post Post #2368 (isolation #79) » Thu May 02, 2019 5:23 pm

Dunn plz claim

Baezu · Fri May 03, 2019 12:03 pm

In post 2415, Fuscosco wrote:Im a
spooky, mysterious
alt.

Arcangel?

Baezu · Fri May 03, 2019 12:05 pm

I’m honestly getting pretty sick of her lurking- she is not a net positive for town anyway

VOTE: dunn

Baezu · Fri May 03, 2019 12:06 pm

My vote is not moving until she either gets lynched or starts to actually contribute to town

Baezu · Post Post #2449 (isolation #83) » Sat May 04, 2019 7:27 am

In post 2447, davesaz wrote:Dunn, even if you're still unwilling to claim, some reads would be nice no matter what your alignment is.
As it is you're a bench warmer and it's not helping town wincon, or your wincon whatever it may be, to do that.

intent

+1

Baezu · Post Post #2450 (isolation #84) » Sat May 04, 2019 7:27 am

Well minus the intent part ofc

Baezu · Post Post #2459 (isolation #85) » Sat May 04, 2019 5:48 pm

Can we please have a hammer?

Baezu · Mon May 06, 2019 11:02 am

In post 2483, Almost50 wrote:So Vork was indeed crumbing defector. Good to know.
That makes WWs Tx5/Tx6 (Tier 1), and this means the Mafia are Tx3/Tx4 (Tier 2).
Actually the Mafia are CDDITTT precisely. They have a goon and a Roleblocker/Role Cop left alive.
The WWs are D?TTTTT or DTTTTTT with one Basic WW left alive.

I can only deduce Davesaz isn't a WW (both skitter & Vork were wagoning him at the start of D1) and that Irrel may or may not have tracked Titus to a kill (if he did he didn't want to claim but kept pushing there for some time).

If Titus is Mafia then she can do her VCA in private and shoot the WW anyway. My worry though is if she's not, as then we need to find all 3 ant-town slots ourselves.

More later

Thank you for this analysis, I am setup analysis challenged so that really helps!

I'm still thinking Titus might be the way to go today

VOTE: titus

Baezu · Tue May 07, 2019 12:04 pm

Will catch up on this game later- swamped with sick kids today...

Baezu · Post Post #2631 (isolation #88) » Wed May 08, 2019 9:30 am

Life has bowled me over this week- does anyone have any questions for me? I should be on for about an hour

Baezu · Wed May 08, 2019 10:09 am

A50 could be scum the way A50 was trying to get everyone off of Dave
I really think persi (now Titus) is scum - more likely mafia than wolf
Last wolf is prob duck