Open 755: Two-Fold C9++ (GAME OVER)

[Skygazer]

oof

i had barely interacted with skitter when she started to town read me,, like u can even see it was surprising to me based on her past tendencies...

i have no idea how you could possibly think i convinced skitter to tr vork???

[DuckDuckJab]

So why are you helping scum continue the push on persivul?

What convinced you that she isn't scum pocketing you?


-BuJ

[DuckDuckJab]

If I'm reading too much into your posts tell me. I just assume you are happy with letting skitter do whatever instead of pushing her because you no longer think she's being weird.

-BuJ

[DuckDuckJab]

This ties in with what I don't like about vork's posting.

He's being safe by not getting himself involved with conflicts between active players, focusing on lurkers who nobody has a reason to defend, and saying that they're doing that for the 'good of town' (paraphrasing). It's all too LAMIST for me and basically like he doesn't want to the dirty work.

Ignoring lurkers in day 1 when there is real content and conflict to analyze is not 'letting them get away with it'. It's about sorting out and resolving the real issues at hand that actually matter. That give us a direction to move forward. That actually tells us where people stand in the game.

We don't know how lurkers will play in the coming days. We don't have any objective reason to lynch one over the other.

Tabling the discussions at hand is not pro-town like vorkuta claims. It is a blatant misdirection to stop town from actually finding out important things about what's happening.

Frankly I don't give a damn if dunn is scum right now for example despite having no content in her iso so far. Because she's not doing anything. Not pushing an agenda, not creating a narrative, not creating townblocks, not scumreading/shading people. She's not a threat to anybody at the moment and her flip gives us nothing.

Similar with other lurkers.

The real treasure is in sorting out the people adding to the post count. The people shaping the flow of the game. Sorting through the interactions that are happening. Establishing possible scumteams or non-team interactions etc.

Basically I don't want to lynch a lurker and then night 1 some townie gets killed without scum being forced to place their vote on their wagon or put themselves on the line by fabricating a case on them.

Killing the active discussions is anti-town. And my partner tells me vorkuta is a newbie so that gives him some benefit of doubt, but it doesn't make him right.

-BuJ

[DuckDuckJab]

For the record my read on Vork is very likely town but I think Buj's concerns deserve to be noted, even if you townread Vork - I don't think it's possible for he and I to reach a middle ground read with the amount of content currently itt.

A lot of what he's describing is a very valid concern abt Vorkuta's play here. I do think the way he's sitting back analysing and poking fun/shading is more playstyle indicative than scum indicative. (I recall our Newbie together I had to basically physically sit on Vorkuta + PvtUrist to get a 3 way convo going one night<3)

- tw

[Fuscosco]

vorks different here, but idk if that means he is scum


I think it can wait though in either direction,since he is interacting.

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April 29, 2019 | 7:00:00 PM Chicago Time.

Chemist1422 – 4/9 –

Fuscosco, Baezu, Persivul, skitter30,

rosterfoster – 0/9 –

Jungle Medicine – 3/9 –

PenguinPower, chennisden, Chemist1422

Persivul – 2/9 –

Skygazer, Vorkuta

Rich Hedberg – 0/9 –

Baezu – 0/9 –

Creature – 0/9 –

Fuscosco – 0/9 –

davesaz – 2/9 –

Rich Hedberg, rosterfoster

DuckDuckJab – 0/9 –

chennisden – 0/9 –

PenguinPower – 2/9 –

DuckDuckJab, Jungle Medicine

Skygazer – 1/9 –

Dunnstral

Dunnstral – 0/9 –

Skitter30 – 0/9 –

Vorkuta – 0/9 –

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No Lynch – 0/9 –

Not Voting:

Creature, davesaz,

V/LAs:

• Skitter30
  , all Fridays and Saturdays.

Mod Notes:

PenguinPower and Rich Hedberg have been prodded. They have 3 days to respond or they will be replaced. (expired on 2019-04-14 10:30:00)

Fun Stuff!

[Aristophanes]

Whoops, I forgot the fancy colours for the 3+ votes.

Oh well! XD

[PenguinPower]

Oops. Forgot I was in this game. Bookmarked.

I'd say I'm going to catch up but that's unlikely. I'm here now though.

[Fuscosco]

i don't think I've ever had the privilege of playing with this particular skittle.

any inspired quotes?

[PenguinPower]

I'm completely uninspiring.

[Fuscosco]

so humble

[Fuscosco]

what's your opinion of ducki?

[Fuscosco]

cuz i feel like they're trying to strong arm the game.

but that's not really enough for a scumread.

oh, and their dumping grounds, Chemist

[PenguinPower]

Should be able to get a decent read if I can interact with the worst head. Not familiar with the other head iirc.

Unknown atm.

[PenguinPower]

What do you mean by "dumping grounds"

[Chemist1422]

meep meep at lunch

Penguin hasn’t done enough to give me a read on them either way

[Fuscosco]

isn't ducks pushing for a chemist wagon?

[PenguinPower]

They're voting me...

[DuckDuckJab]

Should be able to get a decent read if I can interact with the worst head. Not familiar with the other head iirc.

Unknown atm.

The other head is BuJaber.
The mod has it listed as NerfedBuJ because I originally signed up to the game with my alt, but then convinced tw to join with our hydra.
Technically it should be "hydra of BuJaber and the worst", but since I'm NerfedBuJ anyway it doesn't matter.

-BuJ

[PenguinPower]

Good to know.

So, why are you voting me?

[DuckDuckJab]

tw made that choice. I think it was a BoP thing but we haven't talked about you much more than wondering where the hell you are.
I don't want to vote a lurker personally.
Not because you've said anything I can townread I just don't want to gamble on which lurker is scum when there active scummy slots.

But it's not productive to argue too much with my partner so let's first see what comes from the discussion I'm trying to have with everyone.

-BuJ

[PenguinPower]

And that conversation is?

[davesaz]

How do you feel about the conflicting reads on your slot dave?

I don't like the ones who are wrong. I'm always torn between suspecting the people town reading me as trying to buddy, or the scum readers trying for an easy mislynch. Yes I'm aware that this means I could in theory suspect anyone who has a non-null read on me. I'm not sure what to do about it, because I've both found and overlooked scum in both directions in the past.

[BuJaber]

And that conversation is?

What conversation?