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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:19 am

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In post 270, RCEnigma wrote:1 between Baezu/Siv maybe 2.

FL if you kill me tonight I'll be extremely disappointed and highly upset.
Hmm, initially I thought this was a joke at him calling me Mafia, but after SS flip I think scum might have been informed of a Vigilante, and they were potentially fishing.

There was a lot of Vig talk in the latter half of Day 1, I’m gonna go back and look at it. I feel scum knew there was a Vig.
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:21 am

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In post 1599, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1584, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Vedith baaaaabyyyy shark dudududu.
Could this be a bus vote?
Any vote could be, if you scumbias yourself enough.
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:21 am

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@Baezu - I’m flip flopping on everyone’s slot for the most part. I think it’s good to do that so people don’t go through my blind spot. It gets me closer to a solve. I think you’re town, though. I’m not not trusting that.
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:21 am

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In post 1601, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1599, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1584, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Vedith baaaaabyyyy shark dudududu.
Could this be a bus vote?
Any vote could be, if you scumbias yourself enough.
Idk. I don’t think Ausuka-Vedith is scum/scum.
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:25 am

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I think I’m willing to lynch in Vorkuta and Fuos today if I can’t get RCE. Once I’m conf town, I’ll 1v1 RCE if I don’t die tonight.
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:25 am

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I don’t think scum kill me, though, for the sake they might think I’m town faking it. Am I faking it, scum? Am I?
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:26 am

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In post 1558, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 1553, HitAlt wrote:If we are still not lynching in Baezu/Vork, OR they are both town
Is anyone going to look at how our wagons were derailed and find a common denominator? We might find something there.
I'm mobile posting so I can't for now
In post 1554, HitAlt wrote:Knowing Boon like I (/we all?) do, I'm not even putting "scumtheatre Boon/Vork" beyond his reach.
"scumtheatre" Boon&*insert literally anyone but like Fus here* works just as well if you're going by scum range.
He can write both parts for the other to copy and paste.
In post 1554, HitAlt wrote:Don't know what Vorks "reach" is though.
No reach: I only roll town :cool:
I mean I have comments on what I think is optimal and suboptimal scum play if that's what you're interested in.
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:27 am

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In post 1604, Flavor Leaf wrote:I think I’m willing to lynch in Vorkuta and Fuos today if I can’t get RCE. Once I’m conf town, I’ll 1v1 RCE if I don’t die tonight.
You'll lose.
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:29 am

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In post 1566, Ausuka wrote:Baezu is town.
I knew that! *eyeroll*

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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:31 am

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I think the team is RCE, Vorkuta, and then one of Vedith/Fuos.

VOTE: Vorkuta

I’ll just go here then. Sorry, Vorky. I think you’re scum.
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:32 am

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I’m being non stop hatcheted this game which makes me feel I’m on the right path, but can’t do much about it.
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:35 am

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So I'm sold on your Vorkuta townread. And only because I've convinced myself that fus is scum with Vedith +1 which may be alchemist or may not be, I dunno I'm still rereading.

Vedith vs Ausuka I always side Ausuka, I think Vedith needed to cast doubt on Ausuka under the assumption she was town clearing a potential mislynch. Possibly due to capable slots being town and in pretty good standing, which makes me feel a bit better about FL.

Fuscosco's only "serious" vote was Umlaut later replaced by Vedith. Soft distancing that turned into hard distancing. The two haven't interacted since Vedith repped in.

On top of that, unless the whole scumteam piled on to the Volxen wagon fus would be the odd man out fmpov. I can't confirm myself yet but I could have the opportunity to in the future leaving fus as the outlier.
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:37 am

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Vorkuta townread is gone, well I've convinced myself he's town anyway.
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:38 am

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Reading this in real time is a huge rollercoaster
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:41 am

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Games with Boon in them often are.
VOTE: Vorkuta

I'm fully behind this wagon, and hope that Boon really "flips" IC D3.
Vorkuta flipping scum+FL being confirmed tomorrow would cement town in a very good position.
I am Alt. Hope it's a hit.
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:42 am

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Spoiler:
In post 1360, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1349, Slaxx wrote:
In post 1342, RCEnigma wrote:Well if it's just going to be discussion on how Volxen is scum then there isn't much point and you should hammer now.
Dude

You can hammer too

Lmfao
I'm not going to hammer someone I think is town.
In post 1361, Vorkuta wrote:See slaxx- I outed scum!vedith. All aboard the vedith wagon
train leaves in 3 hours
/s

No, I'm asking you why you're concerned about waiting another hour or so for the lynch.
Like look- not hammering puts ME in a really really bad game spot.
Similarly, anyone jumping off the wagon before the will put THEM in a bad game spot.
Both of these cases are pretty much akin to a scum claim.
In post 1363, RCEnigma wrote:Think Vedith is scum, might explain tomorrow, might die. Exciting.
In post 1364, Vedith wrote:
In post 1363, RCEnigma wrote:Think Vedith is scum, might explain tomorrow, might die. Exciting.
No might about it! :mad:
In post 1365, Vorkuta wrote:A mix of # and
In post 1204, Vorkuta wrote:Vedith I'm scared of from #
I think Vedith has a playstyle that has little counterplay when it comes to reading it, and I don't like that.
He can hide behind "LOL WAS TROLL" regardless of what he says and that kind of bugs me, but from what I understand that's Vedith in every game.
He's also been shown to try quite hard to go with the flow, asking people which way to sheep, and that bugs me, but I'm pretty sure this is slightly more town!Vedith behavior.

Also he joined my fus wagon for a bit, so that was nice
In post 1366, RCEnigma wrote:Think Vedith is scum, explain tomorrow, die. Exciting.
In post 1367, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 1364, Vedith wrote:No might about it!
Are you... threatening RCE...? really?

I mean ^ case in point, but still.
In post 1368, Vorkuta wrote:I nominate that to the
In post 1359, Slaxx wrote:journal of obvious grammar
In post 1369, Vedith wrote:Have any of you actually played against scum me?
Actually wondering.
In post 1370, Vorkuta wrote:-1
You were town neighbor in our only game together (NK's 2058) so I'm primarily deferring to FL's read on you for my meta.
In post 1371, Vedith wrote:I'm not arguing how you should read me btw I actually wondered.
FL might be the only one I think.
In post 1374, Vorkuta wrote:I give up- I want to sleep, and there's really no point now that I see the lack of anything.

VOTE: Volxen = Hammered.


3 way scum theatre...?
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:42 am

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At least finally there's the bare minimum Fus discussion going on. Jump on my wagon anyone?

@FL- what's your case on me this time?
can you TL;DR and FINALIZE it so I don't have to cherry pick through your ISO and sort out what's relevant/whats irrelevant/what's obsolete?
I can't keep up with this 'stream of consciousness'
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:43 am

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In post 1615, Flavor Leaf wrote:3 way scum theatre...?
Any interaction between players = X-way scum theatre.
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:49 am

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It’s a mixture of your hatcheting instantly once I took off my rose colored glasses, the fact you were on the final 4 of the Volxen wagon, which I now believe there’s probably 2 scum on, Vedith, Hit, Alchemist, Vorkuta were the final 4, Baezu/Slaxx were right after me, so i know those are all green bar an Ausuka/Baezu scum team, but that’s it.

You pandered at the end of the day yesterday. You make sense as the one of Hit/Vorkuta. You started to come off politically rather than town agenda’d to keep balance, which is destroyed when I flip flop, so you flailed a bit afterwards.

You were being protected by both Vedith and RCE alongside myself meaning that staying on my good side was likely a planned thing, even if they don’t end up being your partners.

RCE’s town case into losing it is looking like semi setting up distance.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:50 am

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I feel like I’ve been pretty consistent with my thoughts, tbh. My reads just change.

And you wanting a case on me looks like you just want to try to hatchet it all in one fell swoop.
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:54 am

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In post 1618, Flavor Leaf wrote:It’s a mixture of your hatcheting instantly once I took off my rose colored glasses, the fact you were on the final 4 of the Volxen wagon, which I now believe there’s probably 2 scum on, Vedith, Hit, Alchemist, Vorkuta were the final 4, Baezu/Slaxx were right after me, so i know those are all green bar an Ausuka/Baezu scum team, but that’s it.

You pandered at the end of the day yesterday. You make sense as the one of Hit/Vorkuta. You started to come off politically rather than town agenda’d to keep balance, which is destroyed when I flip flop, so you flailed a bit afterwards.

You were being protected by both Vedith and RCE alongside myself meaning that staying on my good side was likely a planned thing, even if they don’t end up being your partners.

RCE’s town case into losing it is looking like semi setting up distance.
My initial Vorkuta read was mostly based on me wanting you to be town and trusting your read was better than mine. You set off some alarms for me towards the end of the day starting with your push on Volxen which picked up faster than any of the other wagons day 1 and I re evaluated Vorkuta.

I've done so again with his push against fus that I don't think he's really explained enough to sway me. But I think fus+Vedith is likely scum and Vorkuta as the third doesn't really sit well with me so he benefits from that.
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:05 am

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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:06 am

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In post 1618, Flavor Leaf wrote:your hatcheting instantly
Can literally anyone explain hatcheting as I've asked for previously?
In post 1618, Flavor Leaf wrote:the fact you were on the final 4 of the Volxen wagon
I'm pretty damn sure I was in the first half of people to push it, and stated an intent to hammer just to see what would happen to the wagon
as well as try and keep my fus wagon going for as long as possible
In post 1618, Flavor Leaf wrote:You started to come off politically rather than town agenda’d to keep balance, which is destroyed when I flip flop, so you flailed a bit afterwards.
This sentence has too many advanced mafia concepts for my newbie brain too handle, but I'll try:
-my "town agenda" is to maintain balance while hearing people out.
Like you realize that when you decide that someone is going to be a "push", then ANYTHING that they say is going to come from a position of "I have to respond to FL because he's pushing me" which is inherently disadvantageous for them, and as a result for town if they happen to be town.
-I'd argue my 'politicing' is trying to also 'stream of conscious' what happens to my townblock in light of the new points raised up
-I'm sorry, I've ISO'd myself and I don't see "flailing" so much as 'what FL says is BS to me, and this is why'
In post 1618, Flavor Leaf wrote:You were being protected by both Vedith and RCE alongside myself
RCE's """protection""" of yours truly is a fairly recent development- he's been giving me scum points for most of the game
In post 1618, Flavor Leaf wrote:RCE’s town case into losing it is looking like semi setting up distance.
Then... why not go after RCE... if your "case" for him is more solid than your "case" for me?
Oh you can't get a town!majority on an almost universal town read so you go after the lower hanging fruit, and this is pretty much identical to you treading the water with your Alch/Ausuka gambit a while ago.
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:09 am

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Do I even want to read that giant axe swing?
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:11 am

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In post 1620, RCEnigma wrote:his push against fus that I don't think he's really explained enough to sway me
......
It's up to ME to EXPLAIN a scum!fus???
None of you can defend the guy- look at his post count/content/ISO/fluff.

A scum!FUS is MORE than capable of hiding under this troll persona and doing exactly what he's doing right now.
There's no guarantee or any incentive for him to "turn on" today or tomorrow with th way things are going right now.
This deserves ATTENTION.

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