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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:58 am

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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:52 am

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In post 1160, Something_Smart wrote:Actually I think we should let singleton pick whoever he wants and then lynch him if his target is town.
I forgot that another reason why I scumleaned SS was this post that did not make mechanical sense, even though SS is more mechanically inclined.

As I'm writing this, I do start to see why SS suggested it, but I still do not agree with it. I'm still more likely to reveal town than scum anyway, and he knows how to apply the probability theorem relating P(A|B) and P(B|A) so he has no excuse for not applying it here.
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:55 am

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No, I'm well aware of Bayes' law. Bayes' law states that your odds of being scum go up if you reveal town.

The reason I said that was that in the case where you're scum, we're guaranteed a scum lynch-- either we lynch your partner today, or you sell out your partner overnight, or we lynch you tomorrow. And in the case where you're town, it still gives you a chance to avoid getting mislynched.
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:57 am

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It's not a purely mechanical plan, it's a mechanical plan based on my scumread of you. Given that scumread, can you see how it makes sense?

After thinking about it the plan really only makes sense if we mislynch today, so I'm fine calling it off if we hit scum today. How confident are you in your ability to reveal scum, assuming a mislynch today?
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:01 am

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Not confident :/
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:03 am

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I'm town!
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:04 am

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In post 1151, Nimueh wrote:
In post 1150, singletonking wrote:I was fine with an OkaPoka lynch as I felt he has not done much this game for the amount he's posted... but I didn't like Enigma's vote on him
Oka’s back and forth on Lion really made no sense. Do you think the Oka/Lion names being in red, means anything?

I still prefer Lion but since it’s getting close to deadline, I’ll trust RC on this.
What doesn't make sense?
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:07 am

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In post 1180, OkaPoka wrote:I'm town!
Ama
How do you feel about singleton now that he's claimed? What do you think of my plan?
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:16 am

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I think discussing this now taints the well
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:23 am

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Oka: "ama"
Me: *asks question*
Oka: "I don't want to answer that" :igmeou:

Seriously though, why not? Who singleton reveals depends on whether we're doing this plan, and we can only do the plan if a majority of people actually think he's scum.
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:40 am

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In post 1181, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 1151, Nimueh wrote:
In post 1150, singletonking wrote:I was fine with an OkaPoka lynch as I felt he has not done much this game for the amount he's posted... but I didn't like Enigma's vote on him
Oka’s back and forth on Lion really made no sense. Do you think the Oka/Lion names being in red, means anything?

I still prefer Lion but since it’s getting close to deadline, I’ll trust RC on this.
What doesn't make sense?
You were waffling in your Lion read and suddenly you “trust” him, why?
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:42 am

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In post 1180, OkaPoka wrote:I'm town!
Ama
What’s “Ama”?
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:44 am

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Ask me anything
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:46 am

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In post 1178, Something_Smart wrote:It's not a purely mechanical plan, it's a mechanical plan based on my scumread of you. Given that scumread, can you see how it makes sense?

After thinking about it the plan really only makes sense if we mislynch today, so I'm fine calling it off if we hit scum today. How confident are you in your ability to reveal scum, assuming a mislynch today?
If you think Single is scum, then you wouldn’t lynch that person but then it’s just WIFOM in that case.
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:50 am

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In post 1188, Nimueh wrote:
In post 1178, Something_Smart wrote:It's not a purely mechanical plan, it's a mechanical plan based on my scumread of you. Given that scumread, can you see how it makes sense?

After thinking about it the plan really only makes sense if we mislynch today, so I'm fine calling it off if we hit scum today. How confident are you in your ability to reveal scum, assuming a mislynch today?
If you think Single is scum, then you wouldn’t lynch that person but then it’s just WIFOM in that case.
In post 1183, OkaPoka wrote:I think discussing this now taints the well
UNVOTE:

I believe SS’ conviction but I agree with Oka here.

VOTE: Lion

@RC, why is Oka the best lynch, when Lion is objectively scummier?
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:53 am

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In post 1184, Something_Smart wrote:Oka: "ama"
Me: *asks question*
Oka: "I don't want to answer that" :igmeou:

Seriously though, why not? Who singleton reveals depends on whether we're doing this plan, and we can only do the plan if a majority of people actually think he's scum.
ISO him, look at his readslist. Is your plan, that he will push his buddy and if that person flips green, we lynch Single D2?

Am I understanding this correctly?
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:54 am

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In post 1190, Nimueh wrote:
In post 1184, Something_Smart wrote:Oka: "ama"
Me: *asks question*
Oka: "I don't want to answer that" :igmeou:

Seriously though, why not? Who singleton reveals depends on whether we're doing this plan, and we can only do the plan if a majority of people actually think he's scum.
ISO him, look at his readslist. Is your plan, that he will push his buddy and if that person flips green, we lynch Single D2?

Am I understanding this correctly?
IOW, are you advocating for leashing Single’s vote?
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:09 am

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In post 1184, Something_Smart wrote:Oka: "ama"
Me: *asks question*
Oka: "I don't want to answer that" :igmeou:

Seriously though, why not? Who singleton reveals depends on whether we're doing this plan, and we can only do the plan if a majority of people actually think he's scum.
Well we don't know what tools scum have to mess with us. If we policy lynch him for finding scum we also remove info and content. This is better discussion to have TMR when it actually happens.
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:10 am

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I trust guilty to obv town if he is town is what I mean.

I don't townread him but I think he him town provides more value and is better
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:17 am

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Prodding apthet.
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:10 am

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In post 1193, OkaPoka wrote:I trust guilty to obv town if he is town is what I mean.

I don't townread him but I think he him town provides more value and is better
So, who do you think we should lynch? At this point, a mislynch > no lynch.
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:12 am

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VOTE: GuiltyLion
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:12 am

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In post 942, apthet wrote:I'll also put my money where my mouth is and
VOTE: Skygazer
But I'm not anywhere close enough to confident enough in my read or as a person in general to "lead a push" so I guess I'm doing the frustrating thing and going off on my own. But I will contribute to whatever needs to happen before deadline.
Sky isn’t getting lynched today, so who is your second strongest scumread?
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:12 am

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Nice timing.
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:12 am

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In post 1196, apthet wrote:VOTE: GuiltyLion
NM :lol:

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