Newbie 1925 - Game Over

[zeebu]

I was just saying it to see how you'd respond

and what did you determine?

[teacher]

Pagetop Clarity L-1 reminder.

[TTTT]

I was just saying it to see how you'd respond

and what did you determine?

nothing

[TTTT]

actually sorta townie vibes from it
you don't look to be trying to manipulate through your reactions and questions
but mild

[TTTT]

zeebs I'll give you another 100 town bucks
if you declare intent in your next post

[zeebu]

welp, its approaching the time when i intended to declare intent. nothing is changing right now so, @clearlyclarity consider this my intent post

[TTTT]

@Clarity
plz claim your role

[Micc]

Votecount 1.13

ClearlyClariry (4) -

TTTT, Sashaddin, TheASC, teacher

Sashaddin (2) -

JPD, zeebu

TTTT (1) -

ClearlyClairty

TheASC (1) -

Schiavetto

Not Voting (1) -

wilky

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-04-17 17:35:00).

[Schiavetto]

Yeah, nah, I don't have any reservations about this.


VOTE: Clearly Clarity
Boom.

[teacher]

Wow. Ok. Normally one waits more than 2 hours before the lolhammer. Just FYI.

[TheASC]

Yeah, nah, I don't have any reservations about this.


VOTE: Clearly Clarity
Boom.

Let's hope this isn't the second of my games to have a PR hammered before they can claim. Although saying that, she's had plenty of warning for this.

[Micc]

Votecount 1.14

ClearlyClariry (5) -

TTTT, Sashaddin, TheASC, teacher, Schiavetto

Sashaddin (2) -

JPD, zeebu

TTTT (1) -

ClearlyClairty

Not Voting (1) -

wilky

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

[Micc]

ClearlyClarity has been lynched Day 1. She was a

Mafia Goon

.

It is now Night 1. The deadline for Night 1 is in (expired on 2019-04-17 18:30:00).

[Micc]

teacher has been killed Night 1. He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

It is now Day 2.

Votecount 2.00

Not Voting (7) -

zebu, Schiavetto, TheASC, JPD, wilky, TTTT, Sashaddin

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-04-24 20:20:00).

[TTTT]

teacher I shall avenge you!

[Schiavetto]

Rise and shine & give god the glory, glory!

VOTE: TheASC

[TheASC]

Rise and shine & give god the glory, glory!

VOTE: TheASC

Yeah, I'm here.

In my opinion the teacher night kill is unfortunate but not too surprising, considering he was a strong player that the majority of us were tring.

[TheASC]

To the people that weren't voting Clarity yesterday: why were you voting for who you were voting for? In Wilky's case, why weren't you voting at all?

[TTTT]

alright, now im sensing some distancing between clarity and tttt. something about their interactions, unless just retaliatory, hit a chord with me. im still safely under the gun at the moment, so a vote on tttt is certainly a safe move and doubles as allowing cc to get a vote down (as asc pointed out) with little consequence since it doesnt really do anything for the game.

re-reading
and getting the vibe this is a setup

[zeebu]

To the people that weren't voting Clarity yesterday: why were you voting for who you were voting for? In Wilky's case, why weren't you voting at all?

im not sure how to answer this. i had declared intent and was about to vote and then schiavetto came in and basically prevented me from doing so.

the simplest explanation is that schiavetto wanted to save a couple hours

the slightly scummy explanation is that since it was inevitable, vetto decided to pull the trigger to get on the wagon before it was too late

the much scummier explanation is that the hammer prevented clearly clarity from trying to defend or claim anything that we could have possibly used.

VOTE: schiavetto

so?

[TTTT]

unofficial VC

zeebu (2) -

wilky, Schiavetto

TTTT (2) -

zeebu, ClearlyClairty

Sashaddin (2) -

JPD, teacher

ClearlyClariry (1) -

TTTT

Not Voting (2) -

TheASC, Sashaddin

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2019-04-15 17:35:00).

3 days left and it feels like nobody is even pushing anything
ASC and Sash not voting = BAD
Schiav still on zeebu wagon but not pushing that lynch = BAD
Zeebu and Clarity voting me when I'm obv not the lynch today = BAD
*BAD means anti-town not necessarily scum so let's not start an argument about the above plz

the current game-state is hugely advantageous to scum
as they will get to guide a EoD consensus lynch
town starts the game with an info disadvantage and we failed to lessen that gap due to inactivity
town needs to step up
re-read
move votes
do SOMETHING

not sure both scum would be voting me here without support for the wagon though

[TheASC]

To the people that weren't voting Clarity yesterday: why were you voting for who you were voting for? In Wilky's case, why weren't you voting at all?

im not sure how to answer this. i had declared intent and was about to vote and then schiavetto came in and basically prevented me from doing so.

That doesn't really answer my question - why Sasha?

the simplest explanation is that schiavetto wanted to save a couple hours

the slightly scummy explanation is that since it was inevitable, vetto decided to pull the trigger to get on the wagon before it was too late

the much scummier explanation is that the hammer prevented clearly clarity from trying to defend or claim anything that we could have possibly used.

VOTE: schiavetto

so?

1) I agree that this is the likely reasoning here. You took a while to even declare intent - who knows how long the actual hammer would've taken.
2) Schia's a good player; I'm not sure he's the kind of person to bus at the last possible second.
3) You do realise Clarity flipped red right? If Schia was her partner, why would he not want Clarity to make a claim? If Clarity claimed VT, that'd be no different to the current situation. If Clarity claimed a PR, that could potentially hold off the lynch for a day and maybe even out a town PR through counter-claiming.

[TTTT]

@Sash
who are your top 2 TRs?

[zeebu]

That doesn't really answer my question - why Sasha?

originally to pressure on what sasha was 'waiting for' #388
which basically said nothing since wilky hasnt done anything

TTTT was starting to stir support for the clearly clarity wagon and i briefly hopped on before going back to sasha. sasha then suggested restarting the wagon on me. i think now that CC flipped red and that sasha was an early adopter of that wagon (and stayed on) means only town things. why i stayed on sasha though, i dont have a great reason, i think i felt like if i flipped back to CC once again it would look bad. not doing it now looks terrible since it looks like i was trying to appear to vote for CC early then try and start shenanigans somewhere else.

basically it was my read at the time and i didnt reevaluate/change it early enough to not be the hammering vote.

[zeebu]

also, i had originally pointed to arith's post as my first read of the game which turned out to to eventually flip red.

immediately after that post zest shot me down and started what would eventually be a wagon to L-1 on me providing a bit of defense to arith. arith bounced and was replaced by clearly. zest bounced and was replaced twice ultimately by wilky who hasnt done anything in over 5 days.

also, i dont know if this is any sort of valid information, but i was prodded once for activity. wilky hasnt been (at least not in the thread) but also hasnt been replaced yet. someone had to send in a night action. on top of that, looking at wilky's profile, he's been active on the forum and yet utterly non-existent in this game.

VOTE: wilky