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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:24 am

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I honestly don't see any way to scumread not_mafia directly

he really sounds like a player you either have to get rid of immediately or just read indirectly (such as with PoE)

funny thing I noticed though, he has an impressive amount of night 1 deaths
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:24 am

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In post 1396, Ankamius wrote:tbh

I'm not seeing the scum case on him at all actually, it all looks really NAI
What???

You've been describing things you think are scum to sort Locke as scum, but the same things applied to NM are "NAI"?
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:25 am

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one thing I will note that I believe makes him more likely to be town is the timing of his unvote of GrandWazoo

he had his vote on that slot for so long and just randomly removed it to troll with it long after he started being really threatened with death

it's a lot better than locke tiptoeing around the wagon, only to hop on and then later panic and leave when he hit L-1
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:26 am

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In post 1401, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1396, Ankamius wrote:tbh

I'm not seeing the scum case on him at all actually, it all looks really NAI
What???

You've been describing things you think are scum to sort Locke as scum, but the same things applied to NM are "NAI"?
have you seen any of not_mafia's other games

they look just like this regardless of alignment

you can't use a universal standard for every single player, you have to apply it to people specifically

(note how I brought up town!locke's play in another game to contrast with how he's posting here)
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:26 am

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But Locke does sort.

NM does not.

I’d be all for policy lynching but it’s not going to change NM’s behaviour so we really need to be focusing on catchup scum instead.

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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:27 am

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n_m actually does sort, the problem is he doesn't show any of the process in the thread
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:28 am

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Well - if he's not even going to say who he wants to lynch today I'm not moving.

Why did you have to read NM's games when you were previously able to comment on him via your experience?
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:28 am

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I’m sure I’ve seen multiple occasions where NM just quickvotes in Lylo and loses (I’ve never played with him mind). So I’m not convinced he does tbh.
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:28 am

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In post 1402, Ankamius wrote:one thing I will note that I believe makes him more likely to be town is the timing of his unvote of GrandWazoo

he had his vote on that slot for so long and just randomly removed it to troll with it long after he started being really threatened with death

it's a lot better than locke tiptoeing around the wagon, only to hop on and then later panic and leave when he hit L-1
There was a context to all of this. Locke's reaction to GW hitting L-1 did not feel like a panic at all.

I said the same thing as him prior to him unvoting. We had a similar thought process when it came to how that wagon developed.
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:29 am

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all my experience with him is years old, I needed to make sure it was still relevant
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:30 am

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In post 1405, Ankamius wrote:n_m actually does sort, the problem is he doesn't show any of the process in the thread
If that was true he would not have been prodded three times already. He's clearly disinterested of this game. Saying otherwise is pushing it.
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:32 am

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In post 1408, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1402, Ankamius wrote:one thing I will note that I believe makes him more likely to be town is the timing of his unvote of GrandWazoo

he had his vote on that slot for so long and just randomly removed it to troll with it long after he started being really threatened with death

it's a lot better than locke tiptoeing around the wagon, only to hop on and then later panic and leave when he hit L-1
There was a context to all of this. Locke's reaction to GW hitting L-1 did not feel like a panic at all.

I said the same thing as him prior to him unvoting. We had a similar thought process when it came to how that wagon developed.
here you go:
In post 405, Locke113 wrote:
In post 392, rosterfoster wrote:It's such a bs reason to start pushing someone.

There's standard bs reasons, and there's that.
UNVOTE: GrandWazoo
Yeah, I'm not comfortable with GW at L-1 for a reason this weak, it's like the least scum-indicative thing about GW
In post 623, Locke113 wrote:
In post 618, u r a person 2 wrote:gw still scummy, btw

but eragon reps in to a quiet game and is like, ok this works for me. doesn't sit right
Why doesn't it sit right with you? Do you have experience playing with eragon? Or is this a non-meta based feeling?

Also sorry for the lack of activity everybody, was busy finishing off DMC5 then this game kinda just slipped my mind
In post 625, Locke113 wrote:Well then I'm fine with helping start the Insomnia/Eragon wagon back up again, after all my read on GW is mainly based off the possibility of him being Insomnia's scum partner so why not find out whether Insomnia/Eragon is scum first

VOTE: Eragon
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:36 am

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you know, funny thing

I think the team is exactly Locke + NM
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:37 am

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and in the world where that is the scumteam, Locke is the better lynch because he will be harder to lynch

but I can actually see pretty compelling reasons to townread just about every other slot by now so
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:39 am

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I'M sure I said this before but Eragon/Locke isn't a thing so ok maybe I'm wrong about Eragon.

Shame he disappeared though.
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:40 am

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But that makes NM scum in both worlds lol.
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:40 am

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Ok

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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:40 am

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btw

Eragon had scumreads on GrandWazoo+themilkcartonkid
and was townreading every other slot but Locke

in a world where Locke + GrandWazoo are both scum, that's a... really interesting strategy for when only one of the three are under pressure
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:41 am

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I'm disappointed
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:41 am

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In post 1412, Ankamius wrote:you know, funny thing

I think the team is exactly Locke + NM
In post 1413, Ankamius wrote:and in the world where that is the scumteam, Locke is the better lynch because he will be harder to lynch

but I can actually see pretty compelling reasons to townread just about every other slot by now so
Harder to lynch by what parameters, exactly?

N_M is hindering this game's solving substantially more. And by the reasons you put forward (as in "he plays like that everygame!") I would argue that in a vacuum, lynching him is harder the longer the game goes. You said it yourself. And again, most people were opposed to N_M getting lynched day 1. That's fact.
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:43 am

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VOTE: Not_Mafia
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:43 am

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So you think Eragon/Locke is liklier than Locke/NM because Eragon was being ambiguous about Locke? What about Locke towards Eragon though?
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:44 am

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I really miss being able to charisma my way to lynches

what happened in the last half year
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:44 am

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that's why eragon is town when locke is scum, roster.
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:44 am

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Jailing Locke tonight if NM flips scum btw.

If he flips town, I'm not telling you who I'm jailing.
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