Mini Normal 2066: Catloaves [Game Over!]

[Ankamius]

Jailing Locke tonight if NM flips scum btw.

If he flips town, I'm not telling you who I'm jailing.

100% agree with this

[rosterfoster]

Yeah but if Eragon/Locke isn’t a team there’s no way NM isn’t scum unless I’m scum (spoiler: I’m not).

[rosterfoster]

So NM is the best lynch by POE if you’re townreading me and believe the jailing etc.

[nomnomnom]

Death.

[PenguinPower]

NM is lynched, bird.

[Ankamius]

Yeah but if Eragon/Locke isn’t a team there’s no way NM isn’t scum unless I’m scum (spoiler: I’m not).

So NM is the best lynch by POE if you’re townreading me and believe the jailing etc.

a part of me really wants to have had perfect reads on the inital wagon on me

[Locke113]

I honestly have no clue how many votes are on N_M at this point, meh don't care at this point so

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Locke113]

I really miss being able to charisma my way to lynches

what happened in the last half year

I mean you seemed like a pretty persuasive player in Access Point, at least to me

[Locke113]

Also Anka, can you give me your definition of sorting please? Not trying to be sarcastic just incase it seems that way

[Ankamius]

Sorting is trying to determine peoples alignment to reach a point where your reads have every alignment properly sorted

[Locke113]

And what is it about the questions I've asked and my play this game that makes you sure I'm not sorting?

[Ankamius]

Because you're not reaching anything from them, you ask endless questions and yet the only evidence you're trying to reach any conclusions with them is when it's related to what everybody is already talking about. Your play this game is textbook coasting and you pretty blatantly were not in access point.

[Locke113]

I wasn't coasting in AP? I was literally coasting in AP on purpose because I gave so few shits about that game and you're saying I'm coasting in this game and not in AP?

[Locke113]

Like I replaced out of AP for a reason

[Ankamius]

You were still trying to play for town to win when you were around is the difference.

I don't get that sense here.

[Locke113]

Well you're wrong cause I absolutely have been trying to sort this game, AP I was mainly just sheeping, you can argue you don't agree that any of my changed reads are genuine or caused by sorting this game but if you really believe so I'd like to see some of the more egregious examples of questions that I apparently asked to seem like sorting without actually sorting and why you feel they weren't genuine attempts to play towards a town win condition.

[Ankamius]

well here's the problem.

now that I've actually looked at other games and seen roughly what the power level is with two goons + a traitor in 11p setups, this setup actually makes a lot of sense with 3 group scum, which makes their play completely consistent. this makes PP blatantly obvious town both for role and for play .
nomnomnom is still town because of day one and the n1 block on her (it makes complete sense for her to do the kill and it doesn't make sense for her to kill the claimed VIG if she otherwise knows there's a town role that can block that isn't TMCK)
rosterfoster is town because of early day 2 and the way he transitioned into day 3; I still can't understand what scum strategy this could possibly serve to immediately go guns out after a scum partner's lynch and push himself onto a death tunnel on eragon up until very recently; this is inherently dissonant with itself because it's like playing early day 2 just to increase his chances of survival and then squandering it on a push that's not going to be pushed through. it doesn't fit a consistent scum thought process.
eragon is town because the 'scumslip' just doesn't make sense as a legitimate slip (remember what I said to do to test this? you open popups when you try to hit ctrl plus either letter on either side, it makes no sense to randomly hit ctrl ONLY FOR that one letter and not notice it) and in the first place, it makes very little sense for scum to go that route in the first place after we just lynched a scum d1

guess what's left:

1. Not_Mafia, who is near unsortable for obvious reasons
2. Locke113, who has very vague and near empty posting when it comes from a solving standpoint, and the only solving I can come to is either sheeping what town's thoughts are for the day or about GW, which I already pointed out is not a town thought process.

the game simply makes the most sense when both of you are scum.

[Ankamius]

so really, what am I missing that makes you town here?

[Locke113]

examples of questions that I apparently asked to seem like sorting without actually sorting and why you feel they weren't genuine attempts to play towards a town win condition.

[Ankamius]

pretty much any of your catch ups fit that, locke.

[Locke113]

rosterfoster is town because of early day 2 and the way he transitioned into day 3;

I still can't understand what scum strategy this could possibly serve to immediately go guns out after a scum partner's lynch and push himself onto a death tunnel on eragon up until very recently

; this is inherently dissonant with itself because it's like playing early day 2 just to increase his chances of survival and then squandering it on a push that's not going to be pushed through. it doesn't fit a consistent scum thought process.

You what? So if roster tunnels so therefore he is town?

[Locke113]

like?

[Ankamius]

rosterfoster is town because of early day 2 and the way he transitioned into day 3;

I still can't understand what scum strategy this could possibly serve to immediately go guns out after a scum partner's lynch and push himself onto a death tunnel on eragon up until very recently

; this is inherently dissonant with itself because it's like playing early day 2 just to increase his chances of survival and then squandering it on a push that's not going to be pushed through. it doesn't fit a consistent scum thought process.

You what? So if roster tunnels so therefore he is town?

you can't single out one thing and argue against that when the entire thing is one thought.

[Locke113]

rosterfoster is town because of early day 2 and the way he transitioned into day 3;

I still can't understand what scum strategy this could possibly serve to immediately go guns out after a scum partner's lynch and push himself onto a death tunnel on eragon up until very recently

; this is inherently dissonant with itself because it's like playing early day 2 just to increase his chances of survival and then squandering it on a push that's not going to be pushed through. it doesn't fit a consistent scum thought process.

You what? So if roster tunnels so therefore he is town?

you can't single out one thing and argue against that when the entire thing is one thought.

yes I can, if something you say is wrong then its wrong, doesn't matter if you consider the other reads in the post "one thought"

[Ankamius]

because context matters a lot more than the action by itself.