Mini Normal 2067: Musicals [Endgame]

[Vedith]

I know you do anything to win as scum.
And anyone who has played with you should know this too.

Even normally it would be more understandable.
But without that kill you were lynched today 100% of the time. So killing a team mate is basically the only positive play in your opinion since we both know you believe you are the better scum player here out of everyone (feel free to tell me I'm wrong on that fact).
So why would you sacrifice yourself here over HitAlt who was only town read by me?

[Flavor Leaf]

I disagree. I would take the lynch over the partners. I would do anything, but I would be able to find a more plausible solution than killing my own teammate. I play as a team, not solo scum player.

[Vedith]

Naaaaah

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean, I would. It’s pure WIFOM, but for post game everyone here, know that I just don’t and wouldn’t do that as scum. Ever.

[Vedith]

Just like I wouldn't promote myself to be lynched and put myself into a 1v1 outside of LyLo, but yet I'm still scum?

Come on FL you can do better than that

Spoiler:

In before me and FL are scum and we're securing an easy win.

[Flavor Leaf]

Just like I wouldn't promote myself to be lynched and put myself into a 1v1 outside of LyLo, but yet I'm still scum?

Come on FL you can do better than that

Spoiler:

In before me and FL are scum and we're securing an easy win.

Except that plan fails because we kill you, you flip red, Vorkuta still goes after me.

[Vedith]

But it's something I never do as scum.
If I'm scum both doc claims are always real.

See how the "Never" part is useless right now for us both.

On other news lynch FL. He's scum and after we lynch him we can salute him for trying so hard bless him. \o/

[RCEnigma]

Why would Scum!Vedith make both docs town? Doesn't jive here.

[Vedith]

Because if I was scum FL would be town and that would mean 2 vigs.
With macho, that would also mean 2 town docs.

At worst case I'd push that Alch can't be the solo town mafia because your role prevents 2 scum from being protected.
Alchs doesn't.

[Ausuka]

Vork if you're a PR somehow (what is this game even if that's true) RCE is a doc or scum claiming doc. If he's doc then if you have an important role he will protect you. If he's scum he outs himself by killing you right?

I literally just want to finish the massclaim.

[Ausuka]

It is.

do you have arguments other than "scum wouldn't kill one of their own players to claim vig"?

[Alchemist21]

No. There doesn’t need to be more of an argument than that. In those games you linked was the game about to enter lylo and didn’t because of the gambit?

[Ausuka]

Yes, in the first one.

[Alchemist21]

Really? I saw scum got lynched that next Day from the mod lost but I didn’t read the game posts. How did they get caught?

[Alchemist21]

Frankly it kills me inside that there were multiple games you could link to where scum NK’d themselves. If that’s becoming the new meta I might leave.

[Ausuka]

There were 8 players alive 5v3. It would be 4v3 if they killed town. That's the same situation as here.

It became 5v2. They got a ml through with the vig claim towncred making it 3v2. They were caught because there were too many PR claims and their play was quite scummy so town figured out that scum killed their own.

Also I Ctrl+F'd the normal game archive. I found three 13p games with an odd night and even night, one with a n2 and n3 and one with a 1s dayvig and 1s nightvig.

But nothing comes close to a 12p game with a FULL vig and 1/2 shot vig.

[Vedith]

Ding-dong, the wicked FL is dead
Wake up, you sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed
Wake up, the wicked FL is dead!

[Flavor Leaf]

Why would Scum!Vedith make both docs town? Doesn't jive here.

Because it protects his partner if Vedith flips.

I never kill my scum partner :shrug:

People who think I would can’t claim to read me after this game.

Vedith is just scum, though, I feel he knows I wouldn’t do that.

[Flavor Leaf]

There were 8 players alive 5v3. It would be 4v3 if they killed town. That's the same situation as here.

It became 5v2. They got a ml through with the vig claim towncred making it 3v2. They were caught because there were too many PR claims and their play was quite scummy so town figured out that scum killed their own.

Also I Ctrl+F'd the normal game archive. I found three 13p games with an odd night and even night, one with a n2 and n3 and one with a 1s dayvig and 1s nightvig.

But nothing comes close to a 12p game with a FULL vig and 1/2 shot vig.

Killing a scum partner here brings you back a whole extra mislynch, though. I’m not like that as scum, Ausuka. You’ve seen my scum game. I’m always about progressing forward. Hell, I’m about taking shortcuts to progress forward as scum.

You know this.

I don’t attempt to AtE you as scum, either.

[Flavor Leaf]

Frankly it kills me inside that there were multiple games you could link to where scum NK’d themselves. If that’s becoming the new meta I might leave.

I’ll make sure it doesn’t! That’s just silly to do that.

Glad we’re on the same page.

[Vedith]

I don’t attempt to AtE you as scum, either.

[Baezu]

FL is just saying now he's confirmed.
The only confirmation we have is that scum can kill scum.

FL has no leg to stand on here. There is confirmed scum in me or him.
And the fact he calls me scum knowing I only accept my lynch as town here proves it even more that he's scum.

Let's make a better tomorrow, today.
\o/

Nah. I don’t kill my own scummates, and you know I wouldn’t as scum.

I have a Mafia moral code, and that’s something I don’t really pass.

So if I vote vedith and you end up being scum, at least then we will have another thing to add to the things FL will “never” do! Hahaha

The reason you’re not conftown to me is that I don’t know your role pm...look at it for my perspective- I’m a VT, I’ve been watching the game with the least information of anyone. I’m being told a scenario and have to decide how much I buy it. Again, you are extremely convincing FL and I have no doubt that you very much want to win this game, but unfortunately things aren’t so black in white from my perspective

[Vedith]

FL is never town.

[Baezu]

Vork if you're a PR somehow (what is this game even if that's true) RCE is a doc or scum claiming doc. If he's doc then if you have an important role he will protect you. If he's scum he outs himself by killing you right?

I literally just want to finish the massclaim.

Yes, please vork, we need your help to figure this out!

[Baezu]

I mean, I would. It’s pure WIFOM, but for post game everyone here, know that I just don’t and wouldn’t do that as scum. Ever.

If you flip green- I’m holding you to this FL