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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:09 pm

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Ok, this is not necessarily what I had in mind before but who knows how I'll go after here

VOTE: Radiant

I think you've towny things in your ISO but I've one problem with your play here so far. If I sheep you anywhere outside of Wizard/Eyes, who we are lynching?
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:44 pm

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fuck off :)
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:51 pm

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In post 351, RadiantCowbells wrote:fuck off :)
I had

like

one question

to probably give you town credit afterwards and spare you of trouble that might appear in day 1

and you get all emotional and says this

whatever, don't blame me if I end up not defending you afterwards
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:53 pm

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In post 352, Buki wrote: trouble that might appear in day 1
trouble that might appear in day 2*

correcting

Anyway, very probably and hopefully things will be simpler and...

this flips red?

VOTE: Shoshin
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:09 pm

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blame in what sense?

would you threaten to not defend someone besides me if they didn't jump through hoops for you when you shit voted them?
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:09 pm

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Comparing Shoshin posts

In a recent town game:
In post 56, Shoshin wrote:Irrelephant's excited for this game. What do you think that means about his alignment, Auro?
^ already begins questioning in the start, interacting with other slots trying to sort them

In our game:
In post 82, Shoshin wrote:I feel very uncomfortable with how close I am to L-1.
In post 85, Shoshin wrote:I'm town, RC.
^ talks about their own condition and doesn't seem to be trying to sort the person whom she is talking to
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In recent town game:
In post 280, Shoshin wrote:I strongly disagree that I'm more likely scum than null. Please explain.
In post 300, Shoshin wrote:
In post 283, scum reading wrote:Reason why they’re here is because elephant gave townreads way early on, several times if I’m not mistaken, overall town behavior.
This isn't townie for Irrel.
Notice that she comments about other players posts, and try to make people explain their read on them in order to get a better view of their mind

In our game:
In post 87, Shoshin wrote:It's odd that you can't tell I'm town, RC. What's up with that?
In post 95, Shoshin wrote:I don't know what to say. It feels bad to be at L-2 while having no clue who the scum are & I'd appreciate your help figuring out who I should be pushing?
"Hey, you should be town reading me but I don't really think it's scummy for you to not do it"
"help me find scum, I've no clue of who they might be"

These are certainly two things I don't expect to hear from Shoshin if she is town. Ever since her first newbie game (which I read), I think one of the most notable things about her playstyle is that it's very aggressive, what I don't see here.

Shoshin, if you want to get us some examples where you might have played similarly like you're playing here you're free to do though. I'm all ears.

But with what I've now, I really doubt you're town here. Maybe, and just maybe, you got a PR and thought that you had to be more scummy. But it wouldn't be my fault in that case, and I doubt I'll believe any PR claims.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:16 pm

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In post 354, RadiantCowbells wrote:blame in what sense?

would you threaten to not defend someone besides me if they didn't jump through hoops for you when you shit voted them?
The unique problem I had with your play here was how you seemed to not find shocking how Shoshin has been playing here. There's a possibility that I don't know as much about Shoshin as I should (and that's why I'm all ears for hers counter-arguments), but from what I've seen, Shoshin has been very weird here.

CoA seemed to notice that as well.

However although you did talk about it in the begin, you got distracted in the Wizard/Eye thing and never really seemed to push Shoshin again, and I found it worrying.

I don't think you're scum with her, but in the 5% chance that she flips town, I'll look at you ignoring Shoshin in day 1 and think negatively about it. Almost as if you already would have known she was town so you didn't find it
that
weird.

When I questioned you about who we should lynch outside of Wizard/Eye, if you said Shoshin and tried to do some effort in shading her, I would have put you in the townblock regardless of today flip, but with how things played out, I can only hope that I'm right on Shoshin/my actual solve.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:18 pm

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the implication is that I wouldn't jump at the opportunity to get rid of town shoshin D1 and have good reasons for it.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:23 pm

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In post 357, RadiantCowbells wrote:the implication is that I wouldn't jump at the opportunity to get rid of town shoshin D1 and have good reasons for it.
Do you think she can ever be town here with the way she has been playing?

We have 4 days left and she did kind of nothing.

I can maybe see her rolling a PR and thinking that just sheeping/shadowing you would be better play, but really, this is kind of too much. I want to lynch her regardless of her claim.

I can hear her if she links game where she played like she is playing here though.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:25 pm

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She said for you to let her have a chance of finding scum but she didn't post a single alignment-sorting question to the other players, all the while saying "RC, who should I vote, help?".

This is like...really too much.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:35 pm

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i don't feel like lynching her.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:38 pm

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In post 360, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't feel like lynching her.
I see

Can't do anything about that but I hope the others don't think like this. because I do feel like lynching her I guess.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:51 pm

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If Shoshin is scum

I think there's between one to two scum in [Wizard, Egix, Eyes]

If Shoshin isn't scum I might need to rework my solve.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:54 pm

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In post 346, Eyes without a face wrote:
In post 317, Dr Worm wrote:on page 8 EMPIREFLOPPYNIP became TROWN in MY BRAIN!!
So he is town to your brain and scum to your heart? I hope these are the only 2 members you're using this game. I would hate to know what it feels in your guts!

TWO reads from DIFFRANT TIMES!!

HEART is FEELS.. BRAIN is THOTS!!
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:55 pm

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SORRRY NOT THOSE THOTS LIKE HO-HOS.. MEANT TO WRITE THUOGHTS!!
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:59 pm

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BUKU why move vote from WIZZERD after I SAID I WANTED TO VOTE WIZZERD??



VOTE: WIZZERD
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:00 pm

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Because Shoshin feels more like scum

even though wizard feels like scum
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:01 pm

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What do you think about Shoshin Dr.Worm?

And why you might prefer Wizard than Shoshin?
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:01 pm

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OK SHOULD DR WORM SHEEP YOU??
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:02 pm

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ok but shoshin is cuter
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:02 pm

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Not necessarily.

First I want to know what you think about Shoshin yourself.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:02 pm

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In post 367, Buki wrote:What do you think about Shoshin Dr.Worm?

And why you might prefer Wizard than Shoshin?
I HAVE ONLY tiny thoughts on SHOSHY!! ANTI-TROWN but not SURE SCUM!!
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:03 pm

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In post 369, RadiantCowbells wrote:ok but shoshin is cuter
I might or might not wish that Egix and Celica be town just because of their avatar
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:04 pm

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In post 371, Dr Worm wrote:
In post 367, Buki wrote:What do you think about Shoshin Dr.Worm?

And why you might prefer Wizard than Shoshin?
I HAVE ONLY tiny thoughts on SHOSHY!! ANTI-TROWN but not SURE SCUM!!
What do you feel like it's anti-town about shoshin?

and what makes you confident that wizard is scum?
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:05 pm

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CELIAC DID THIS:: SHOW UP.. BIG POSTS.. NO REALTIME TALKS!!

Why TROWN READ??

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