Undertale Mafia (Endgame):

[RadiantCowbells]

Mercy is currently at 7 .[/color] Undertale Mafia Votecount 1.97: Game of Throws (5): Something_Smart, Team RWBY, Pink Ball, Dannflor, The Worst Something_Smart (4): Vedith, Game of Throws, Skygazer, Wiisp Skygazer (2): Brown Eyes, Shining Dreamers Wiisp (1): Papyrus Brown Eyes (1): Hot Lightning Pink Ball (1): Rosterfoster Rosterfoster (0): Hot Lightning (0): Alonzo (0): Team RWBY (0): Dannflor (0): Papyrus (0): Vedith (0): The Worst (0): Shining Dreamers (0): Reasonably Clever (0): Chemist1422 (0): Not Voting: Reasonably Clever, Chemist1422, Alonzo With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch. The day ends (expired on 2019-04-21 00:00:00).

[Team RWBY]

That slot is very resolvable

It doesn't matter if you believe they 100% kill this slot n1 or not, their kill patterns are predictable enough that it should be obvious from that alone

-Blake

[the worst]

I townread it on first impression but as soon as I started reading I didn't really have a strong feeling on whether it was from genuine town or scum but it's probably slightly >rand town

Prolly not surprising but I'm town on you guys. I don't want to make this into HW v2 so I'll get myself more excited about this game so we can throw words at each other.

[Team RWBY]

:V

It would be really nice for us to both be town townreading each other for once lol

-Blake

[the worst]

the day is likely close.

[Reasonably Clever]

VOTE: Something Smart

on reread, GoT and SS being both scum is extremely unlikely, GoT has been on his ass all game
She has said some low-key shade, and again, the "checking-in" post, which I find scummy, definitely not enough open-wolfing coming from the Chelsea head so far

quite sure we are about to see W/V wagons grow

SS has more scum!equity then GoT imo

I’m no longer convinced on SS scum. However you read Roster, I don’t really see the scum motivation in SS defending him like that. Unless you think they’re S/S?

[Reasonably Clever]

Pink ball is scum. Discuss.

VOTE: Pink Ball

Maybe...

They have all the right reads with none of the working out shown...

I'm bussing all my partners to look townie, join the GoT wagon and you'll get scum 100%!

Can you explain why you are so sure of GoT scum?

[Reasonably Clever]

Alonzo don't listen to Wiisp, he's my partner, that's why I'm "townreading" him! Lynch GoT!

Can I be your partner too? Cerb doesn’t spend enough quality time with me and it makes me feel unloved and abandoned.

[Reasonably Clever]

Inb4 Cerb saying "this is absolutely anti town, you idiot"

Ok sorry I will stop that kind of posts Cerb.

You didn't have to go that hard on me Cerb, geez

Sorry not sorry.

~Not Cerb

[Reasonably Clever]

I’m liking the new omnom

I think he's the worst.

~Ruby

Agreed but we still love him anyway.

[Reasonably Clever]

RWBY that's impressively anti town, stop it right now in the name of love

Spoiler:

[Team RWBY]

your love

what's your read on brown eyes? do you think their reach out to me there was towny?

this wasn't asked of me but until recent posts of them, ive been a bit iffy. i dont follow the major meta-focus on

sky

being scum as i didnt see much meta nor do i know

sky

well enough to apply it.

i liked the counterpoints they made on

vedith

in 2373 2377 and its a reason why i dont think anyone in this hydra is townreading them.

their posts seem to stall and

vedith

is letting their townreads get pushed with 0 resistance, but they're not overtly pushing a scumread so it feels like their positioning in the game is very convenient to do whatever suits them.

them holding off on even giving a slight elaboration on their reads in 2104 scumpinged at least 1/2 or 3/4ths of this hydra because it went along with what we think they're doing as scum.

~

@Brown

- what do you think about

wiisp's

unvote in 2382 and

GoT's

ISO?

im fine with voting or lynching

GoT

rn... they're only responsive in this game when the topic is exclusively about them and their argument of the gamestate and wagons they dislike is both understated and focused on having problems with the playerlist's approach rather than what people are doing specifically.

~

im struggling to have a handle on

HL/Roster

because this hydra doesn't have a strong impression on either and everyone in the game thread has had a fluctuating and opposing opinion about them.

im just happy ive narrowed my lynchpool to 4 or even less people. i know theres scum in the townreads somewhere but im not looking at that until i resolve the slots i, and my hydra, are actually joining a scumread on

there's too much

"i got the scumteam"

solves on D1 and its all associative bullshit without any preemptive flip information. so i distrust it.

most of my D1 performances are either very strong or trainwrecks and this game is leaning on trainwreck so w/e...

ive picked up the pieces post-D1 tho, so there's hope.

~yang

[Team RWBY]

also hey quackers

<3

you get a cracker if you guess who this head is.

~yang

[Reasonably Clever]

We're not lynching SS today

I CONCUR!

+1

[Reasonably Clever]

@SS
then you just die here

Do you always play as though you own the town?

YES I do, because I'd rather lose because I am wrong than lose because everyone else is wrong

@dann
no thanks, I'm not sitting on this fairy-tale bullshit, where bad play is ok, because of META, especially when I am trying to actually solve this game, and everyone one of my reads get fucking shit on

Bad play is obviously never ok but it’s unfortunately a really. SS’ earlier play was very scummy but his recent posts, don’t really make too much sense coming from scum.

[Team RWBY]

this wasn't asked of me but until recent posts of them, ive been a bit iffy. i dont follow the major meta-focus on sky being scum as i didnt see much meta nor do i know sky well enough to apply it.

~

to clarify, the above is about Brown, i went on a tangent about Vedith below, minus first half of first sentence.

basically, wasnt fond of Brown voteparking and felt their reads only served to keep their vote on Sky, but i feel that has a bit less ground with their recent posts.

im less sure if i want that slot lynched D1, i want to put more time into reading them

~

i liked the counterpoints they made on vedith in 2373 2377 and its a reason why i dont think anyone in this hydra is townreading them.

their posts seem to stall and vedith is letting their townreads get pushed with 0 resistance, but they're not overtly pushing a scumread so it feels like their positioning in the game is very convenient to do whatever suits them.

them holding off on even giving a slight elaboration on their reads in 2104 scumpinged at least 1/2 or 3/4ths of this hydra because it went along with what we think they're doing as scum.

~yang

[Reasonably Clever]

Okay so get started

Where are the wolves, who are they pushing, why?

In the players that are not {S_S, GoT}, pushing S_S and GoT, so they can get mislynches...?

I think you’re making unfounded assumptions here. Tell me why so you’re convinced on GoT town?

[Reasonably Clever]

I wonder how many more times people will ask Something_Smart for reads D1

so give me scum SS meta then, tell me what he does? from what I'm getting is he doesn't give reads as either alignment?

He has given reads.

[the worst]

also hey quackers

<3

you get a cracker if you guess who this head is.

~yang

radiantcowbells is that YOU

[Reasonably Clever]

@Brown
ok ill read your thoughts on Sky in a second, who else is in your PoE?

This is what it looked like last time I updated it. It's not ordered.

Spoiler:

Town:
NeenieKit
nom
Dannflor
Team RWBY
Papyrus
Roster
-? line-
Wiisp
Chemist rep. Shiidaji
Pink Ball
Game of Throws

Scum:
Skygazer
Reasonably Clever
Something_Smart
Vedith
Hot Lightning
Shining Dreamers

Something I wanted to do was to look at what Papyrus' argument regarding you being scum was, actually.

also, I feel as if there was too much complacency with sky's lynch early on, like unless mafia are all sitting there thinking, "hey if we don't react, everyone will just move elsewhere"

I kind of hate these kinds of reads because I think they're very often misapplied. I'd call them kind of level 0 thinking, actually.

There are so many things that scum could be doing, unless you have some specific argument as to who scum is and why they're doing or not doing something, I think it's just speculation.


Not getting pushback doesn't mean you aren't voting scum.

Getting pushback doesn't mean that you have scum confirmed.


Oh, and for the record: even if scum were thinking "if we don't react, everyone will just move elsewhere", they were correct. That actually did happen.

I’m starting to lose my townread on you. Disagree on at least 2 of your scumreads besides us obviously. I’m starting to think if Sky is scum here, than maybe you’re her partner? I’ve seen scum distancing like this in a lot of games I’ve been in. In any case, this list doesn’t read like you’re even reading the game.

[Team RWBY]

also hey quackers

<3

you get a cracker if you guess who this head is.

~yang

radiantcowbells is that YOU

mhm definitely a

kittybells

alt, always have been.

@Reasonably

the direction of our reads on

Brown

are literally inversed, can you tell me why their original focus on

sky

was town-motivated? or why you thought they were town? am i misreading them?

~RadiantCowbells

[Reasonably Clever]

@brown
also to be fair, I think the latter half of Sky's posts have been less coasty, and I've liked her thoughts, so w/e

That’s what’s pinging me about Brown’s my recent posting, she doesn’t seem to be re-evaluating. This is why I never vibed with the scumreads on you, because you clearly are doing that.

People need not to sr playstyle over content, which I think the scumreads on you seem to be mostly based on imo.

[Reasonably Clever]

Okay, I'm read up.

@the worst

– My ISO is a fairly short read, at least post-count wise. If you were to read it, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

--
I'm not a big fan of the Game of Throws wagon,

although some of my thoughts there are pending some people's responses.

What does this even mean? Sounds a bit hedgey?

[Something_Smart]

I think you’re making unfounded assumptions here. Tell me why so you’re convinced on GoT town?

That's the downside of quoting just the text you're responding to, rather than the whole post

If you jump back to the actual post you'll see that Chemist's post was in response to me saying I could easily see a world where GoT and I we're both town.

[Reasonably Clever]

If my hydra's theory on who they are is accurate, probably town

Independent of that, they're part of a subgroup that I think is scum dense atm so it's a bit up in the air

I'm really not good at reading playstyles like that directly

-Blake

I initially hard townread them but their catchup looked like they are either deathtunneling or not reading the game.

I’m just no longer convinced that their Sky read is genuine. I think that’s the difference in how I’m viewing SD Sky read. Do you agree?