Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:28 pm

sure. vote him.

Shoshin · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:29 pm

VOTE: Wizard

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:29 pm

if you're town here don't expect me to ever follow you again.

Buki · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:29 pm

In post 498, RadiantCowbells wrote:whichever of you is town i'm so fucking pissed at right now you have no idea

fuck off RC

don't try to play it off

You're the one doing all of this regardless of your alignment. You're purposely playing dumb just to feed your ego.

I'm the one pissed with you for being such a winny person. I can forgive this if you're scum later but if you're not, every time someone say that you're toxic, I'll stop saying anything back and just nod.

Shoshin · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:30 pm

In post 502, RadiantCowbells wrote:if you're town here don't expect me to ever follow you again.

Me?

Buki · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:32 pm

If you plainly said

"Buki, I think you're scum with Wiz from the position you're taking here" I could understand, but it's clear by your posts that you're fucking up around just to try to win a "challenge".

You also purposely ignore my points about Shoshin, that you even recognized before this began.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:34 pm

If you plainly said

"Buki, I think you're scum with Wiz from the position you're taking here" I could understand, but it's clear by your posts that you're fucking up around just to try to win a "challenge".

You also purposely ignore my points about Shoshin, that you even recognized before this began.

I'm trying to lynch scum. I don't believe your current line of play comes from town. I don't think that you hard resist wagoning a mutual scumread in favor of picking a gigantic fight with me.
It's really that simple. The hyperbole is nothing to do with you, it's how I make sure that I actually get the lynch through.

this isn't about winning any challenge, it's about winning.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:35 pm

In post 504, Shoshin wrote:
In post 502, RadiantCowbells wrote:if you're town here don't expect me to ever follow you again.
Me?

didn't you promise that you'd never make posts like 499? you're not some rando i don't like hearing shit like that from you.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:36 pm

3 more votes for wizard.

Buki · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:36 pm

Shoshin is still probably scum anyway.

If I have time, I'll try to check more games from her but my point still seems to stand and no link is showing up in the thread.

This doesn't sound like town!Shoshin ever. It seems you don't have one single example and instead of linking us, you want to make I check every game you played in this site...

Buki · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:40 pm

and 5 more votes for Shoshin.

What I hope will happen when people come back

Buki · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:11 pm

In post 492, RadiantCowbells wrote:The fact that both of you agree wizard is scum and neither of you are willing to vote them makes me kinda sick to my stomach

In post 498, RadiantCowbells wrote:whichever of you is town i'm so fucking pissed at right now you have no idea

Yeah, RC might be town

Buki · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:15 pm

In post 499, Shoshin wrote:If Wizard flips town, then I'll lynch you, RC. Will you accept this if I vote Wizard?

This kind of makes me think that maybe Wiz/Shoshin isn't a team

and that kinda justify why I wanted Shoshin first

I wonder how much weight I should put on this huh

TheWizard · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:18 pm

First of all, I don't give two shits about RC's reputation. I know enough about him from direct interaction, I don't need to rely on hearsay.

Since RC *is* good at orchestrating mislynches, I'll go ahead and claim. I am actually one of the doctors. My role PM didn't say anything about this bullshit mechanic where I can't be healed, which is why I suggested to Pretentious that we heal each other. I knew that he was creating wifom, but figured that if he was lying, he'd be CCed and then retract. Once he explained the mechanic and I realized how badly I'd screwed up, I tried to maximize wifom by implying that I was a VT fakeclaiming, but not discussing the matter in any detail. RC has repeatedly tried to get me to explain my actions and therefore let him and his scumbuddies know whether or not they should kill me; as much as I hate to give in it's necessary at this point.

As far as Shoshin goes, the arguments between him and RC seems contrived, so it's likely a scum v scum interaction. All things being equal, I'd be fine lynching Shoshin today and RC tomorrow. However, I'm almost certainly going to die tonight, and (if we lynch Shoshin today) RC will use her scumflip and his conflicts with her to try to talk himself out of getting lynched. It's likely that the town would get suckered in, and RC would then carry scum to endgame without any real opposition.

Given this, I want to see RC die before I do, which means today. Shoshin is barely trying so I trust the town to lynch him in my absence.

TheWizard · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:20 pm

Buki still seems like a VI. Eyes also looks like a VI, though I'm not as confident regarding him.

Unless anyone can point me to a history of Egix hard bussing early in the game, I'm going to townread him.

Buki · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:20 pm

Like Wiz

You either need to explain who you are

or we might have kind of a problem here

You're implying you're an alt, knows RC here but doesn't know how Macho works?

Buki · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:22 pm

Wiz, not RC today.

Vote Shoshin, you think she is scum anyway right?

Let the wagons compete

TheWizard · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:24 pm

I know RC from elsewhere. This is my only account here.

Not gonna out myself.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:26 pm

If he knows me how does he say literally anything that he has said about me thus far this game?

Buki · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:28 pm

Hm

so like, this is unhappily kind of what's happening Wiz:

I'm annoyed, and if it's to die, I want it to be quick

Vote Shoshin or I probably am going to vote you, and if you flip scum I'll leave for players judgement. If you flipped town...huh, Shoshin is next.

Anyway, that's my proposal.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:28 pm

And no

I did not push for further elaboration from you

I said that in late game if you claimed VT you weren't clear

I also explicitly said we don't prompt you for more info today.

I started pushing you when you pushed me.and under the assumption that you would end up claiming doc. Now you have. Now you still get lynched because you're scum

Buki · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:29 pm

I've tried quite a bit to not get in this kind of conflict in mafia but it always happen

I might need to be even more minimalist than I'm already being maybe

Anyway Wiz, let's get this over with

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:34 pm

In post 251, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 249, Eyes without a face wrote:OK. And how you gonna tell if he was seriously claiming doctor?
???

not today certainly

Buki · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:36 pm

I'm kinda wishing for a flip in the next 24 hours or so.

Is Wiz 2 votes away?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:36 pm

At no point did I prompt him for anything regarding claims

I did discuss the pretentious claim but that was because I thought it was VT/scum as opposed to scum/PR.

He claims to know me yet everything he has said about me this game is inconsistent with claiming knowledge about me. Everything. He had to be prompted to know that I had a good scum game for fucks sake.