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[Lawliett]

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it might be weirdly +ev town that from the third recruited person forward, claims that they are in the neighbourhood.

i`m not sure how i can explain without it being anti-town though, give me some time to think

either that or we could make a system where everyone in the neighbourhood will use /heal to democraticaly choose who they think it`s the best option to put in the hood instead of being up only to the last recruited person (what makes mafiosos choosing other mafiosos easier).

that said, depending on how mafia is playing, their choosing in the neighbourhood can or not be basically a scum claim. then i`m not sure we want to change that.

[Lawliett]

best mafia strategy is to sound townie in day 1, get recruited, recruit his partner in day 2 and afterwards buss the bomb

it`s a insta win that way as far as i know

if two mafia get into the neighbourhood, it`s very dangerous for town, because they can begin killing inside the neighbourhood and by bussing the bomb later, win the game.

i was thinking about what we should do to prevent that, but didn`t want to break my newbie theatre but well...now it doesn`t really make a difference.

Wouldn't the recruit or recruiter being killed right after the adding of another player just out someone as scum, or at the very least give reasonable doubt to not let them have say in who to recruit?
I don't think that your idea is breaking.

as far as I am understanding the setup here, they don`t need to kill anyone in the neighbourhood until it`s already day 3 for they to win.

from what i`m understanding, they add another person in the neighbourhood during the

day

. that means that by the end of day 1, there is 3 people in the neighbourhood.

if a goon is the first one recruited, they can simply add their mafia partner in the begin of day 2, and that would make a ratio of 2:2 in the hood. if they buss the bomb in day 2 in that scenario, they win.

[Lawliett]

no?

it kills everyone out of the neighbourhood and that includes the mafiosos?

since in day 1 only town is inside the neighbourhood (town recruiter, town recruit), i imagine we instantly win by lynching bomb day 1.

Okay I mis understood it then and thought it meant PT's in general.
So why do you think scum claim it here if that's the case? For the town credit?

ejjinami kind of looks like the kind of player that doesn`t give a fuck about being cautious as far as i see?

they might just be the bomb and thought `i`ll claim bomb there, self vote and all, then no one will think i`m the bomb since that would be very anti-mafia`

it wouldn`t really be about gaining town credit, it would be about making us think that there is no way that he is the bomb.

not sure how probably that is, would need to check how he plays normally

[High Risk Gamble]

as far as I am understanding the setup here, they don`t need to kill anyone in the neighbourhood until it`s already day 3 for they to win.

from what i`m understanding, they add another person in the neighbourhood during the day. that means that by the end of day 1, there is 3 people in the neighbourhood.

if a goon is the first one recruited, they can simply add their mafia partner in the begin of day 2, and that would make a ratio of 2:2 in the hood. if they buss the bomb in day 2 in that scenario, they win.

Wouldn't the bomb still die though? Making it 2:1 in favour of town.
But to prevent additional chance of both scum making it into the hood, the original 2 should have full say and just note down influence made by others in the hood.

If they are both dead early on it's a good chance that scum are in there. And in that case to cover that it might be worth the player recruited to confirm that they have been.
This needs to be heavily looked into though because it could easily lead back to who is town reading them.

[High Risk Gamble]

ejjinami kind of looks like the kind of player that doesn`t give a fuck about being cautious as far as i see?

they might just be the bomb and thought `i`ll claim bomb there, self vote and all, then no one will think i`m the bomb since that would be very anti-mafia`

it wouldn`t really be about gaining town credit, it would be about making us think that there is no way that he is the bomb.

not sure how probably that is, would need to check how he plays normally

There's a huge difference of not being cautious and out right throwing the game.
Ejj doesn't know majority of the player list, so would be unfamiliar with how they react to things. It would essentially be game throwing.
That doesn't mean not scum of course. This could just be a goon going for a gambit. The bomb though? I highly doubt.

I can see your line of thinking with it, the whole WIFOM play, I just think it's not that.

[Lawliett]

as far as I am understanding the setup here, they don`t need to kill anyone in the neighbourhood until it`s already day 3 for they to win.

from what i`m understanding, they add another person in the neighbourhood during the day. that means that by the end of day 1, there is 3 people in the neighbourhood.

if a goon is the first one recruited, they can simply add their mafia partner in the begin of day 2, and that would make a ratio of 2:2 in the hood. if they buss the bomb in day 2 in that scenario, they win.

Wouldn't the bomb still die though? Making it 2:1 in favour of town.
But to prevent additional chance of both scum making it into the hood, the original 2 should have full say and just note down influence made by others in the hood.

If they are both dead early on it's a good chance that scum are in there. And in that case to cover that it might be worth the player recruited to confirm that they have been.
This needs to be heavily looked into though because it could easily lead back to who is town reading them.

maybe i`m the one misunderstanding how setup works, but let me explain again how i see the worse case-scenario:

town recruiter recruits mafia goon

during

day 1

mafia goon recruits another mafia goon in day 2

lynch bomb in day 2 -> only the four people in the hood survives and mafia has a 2:2 ratio.

[High Risk Gamble]

maybe i`m the one misunderstanding how setup works, but let me explain again how i see the worse case-scenario:

town recruiter recruits mafia goon during day 1

mafia goon recruits another mafia goon in day 2

lynch bomb in day 2 -> only the four people in the hood survives and mafia has a 2:2 ratio.

I understand now. Makes a lot more sense what you were saying.
So if scum are recruited they will most likely be looking to not get the bomb into the hood.

[Lawliett]

even if the bomb gets in the hood it`s kind of easy for they to win in day 2 to be honest:

recruiter recruits bomb day 1

bomb nightkills someone already in the hood

bomb recruits a mafioso in day 2 and get lynched (they would only need 3 town votes by the way because all the mafia can quickhammer their own bomb)

mafia ratio of 1:1 in the hood.

it`s like, town sided if we recruit town in day 1, and a bit scum sided if we recruit mafia in day 1.

recruiter needs to choose well who they`ll add.

[High Risk Gamble]

At least it's a game where D1 lynch actually matters I guess then.

[ejjinami]

ejjinami kind of looks like the kind of player that doesn`t give a fuck about being cautious as far as i see?

they might just be the bomb and thought `i`ll claim bomb there, self vote and all, then no one will think i`m the bomb since that would be very anti-mafia`

it wouldn`t really be about gaining town credit, it would be about making us think that there is no way that he is the bomb.

not sure how probably that is, would need to check how he plays normally

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actually, I don't joke that much normally
I'm just in a really good mood rn

I'm curious of your opinion if you do end up checking my previous games though. So I absolutely encourage you to do it, if you want to.

gtg

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ejjinami kind of looks like the kind of player that doesn`t give a fuck about being cautious as far as i see?

they might just be the bomb and thought `i`ll claim bomb there, self vote and all, then no one will think i`m the bomb since that would be very anti-mafia`

it wouldn`t really be about gaining town credit, it would be about making us think that there is no way that he is the bomb.

not sure how probably that is, would need to check how he plays normally

There's a huge difference of not being cautious and out right throwing the game.
Ejj doesn't know majority of the player list, so would be unfamiliar with how they react to things. It would essentially be game throwing.
That doesn't mean not scum of course. This could just be a goon going for a gambit. The bomb though? I highly doubt.

I can see your line of thinking with it, the whole WIFOM play, I just think it's not that.

I like that reasoning tbh.


[HRG]
[Lawl, roster]
[everyone else]

this will prob get a bit better later on

[Flubbernugget]

best mafia strategy is to sound townie in day 1, get recruited, recruit his partner in day 2 and afterwards buss the bomb

it`s a insta win that way as far as i know

if two mafia get into the neighbourhood, it`s very dangerous for town, because they can begin killing inside the neighbourhood and by bussing the bomb later, win the game.

i was thinking about what we should do to prevent that, but didn`t want to break my newbie theatre but well...now it doesn`t really make a difference.

Makes quick read flips very telling I would think

[Lawliett]

VOTE: Ofrhz

[ejjinami]

actually,
VOTE: flubb

Makes quick read flips very telling I would think

can you do sth more useful than that?

[ejjinami]

VOTE: Ofrhz

why ofrhz?

[Lawliett]

VOTE: Ofrhz

why ofrhz?

She is mafia.

I`m 80% sure of it.

[TemporalLich]

I'm gonna avoid voting ejjinami in case she is the bomb and the recruiter hits scum.

Or she ends up just being town.

Lawliett is town.

Meh.

VOTE: ofrhz

[Lawliett]

I'm gonna avoid voting ejjinami in case she is the bomb and the recruiter hits scum.

Or she ends up just being town.

Lawliett is town.

Meh.

VOTE: ofrhz

Do you agree with me that Ofrhz is the scummiest looking slot right now?

[TemporalLich]

Do you agree with me that Ofrhz is the scummiest looking slot right now?

Yeah, I feel like ejjinami might be town oddly enough for trying way too hard to be scum.

10 needs explanation

[Jingle]

fumuki replaces Lawliett.

[Jingle]

Vote Count 1.1

ofrhz (3): fumiki, TemporalLich, High Risk Gamble
fumuki (2): ofrhz, Flubbernugget
ejjinami (1): rosterfoster
rosterfoster (1): maadneet
awestfie (1): awestfie
Flubbernugget (1): ejjinami
High Risk Gamble (0):
TemporalLich (0):
Saudade (0):
Eyes without a face (0):
madneet (0):

Not Voting (2): Saudade, Eyes without a face,

Deadline: Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-05-02 18:00:00)

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[ejjinami]

VOTE: Ofrhz

why ofrhz?

She is mafia.

I`m 80% sure of it.

I can’t even tell if it’s a joke or a serious read
Is it because they outed your alt?

[ejjinami]

I'm gonna avoid voting ejjinami in case she is the bomb and the recruiter hits scum.

I don’t really like this
Seems overly cautious and the reasoning doesn’t even make sense
The rest of the post is fine though

[ejjinami]

Can someone explain the SRs on ofr to me?
I have no freaking idea what’s going on
Thx

And @jingle I voted flub in post 87

~Fixed, Jingle

[Eyes without a face]

I hardclaim bomb.

I CC.

VOTE: ejjinami

[Eyes without a face]

You have 2 choices rn, either shitpost with me, or scum-read me

What if I do both?